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Trinity/Malden

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All the jokes aside I was curious as too how "real" Trinity really is. They have made it this far so they have to have something going for them. I watched the Trinity/Malden game online to have a look for myself. Disclaimer, this is the first time I have seen either team play. If my opinion was worth 2 cents I would sell it too you but here it is anyway.

Game - Malden was able to force Trinity into a number of mistakes but was just out maned and couldn't do anything with it. I think Malden got discouraged and let the score get out of hand in the second half. I don't want to say they gave up but they looked defeated long before the game was over which lead to a bit of the lopsided score.

Malden:
Team - Well coached and disciplined. Very one dimensional. When that dimension was shut down they had no where to go.

Offensively - They were out maned up front. They wanted to run between the tackles but had no chance. The QB did not have the arm to get the ball down field. Passes just to the sideline had a lot ark on them.

Defense - They held their own up front. They did a great job shutting down the inside run game. The second level was out matched. Anytime Trinity got past the line of scrimmage the their athletes took over and it was usually big chunks if not TD's.

Trinity:
Team - This team is a mess. Coaches were regularly counting heads and sending the first body they could grab out to play. It is a shame because they are a gifted bunch. I think if you jumped on them early they would have a hard time overcoming themselves.

Offensively - The OL is huge but nothing special. They did a nice job blocking the person in front of them but most blitzes went untouched. The backs and QB are fast but if they can't run by you or dance around you they went down pretty easy. The QB can launch the ball but there is no design to it. He throws it up and hopes his guy comes down with it. The WR's are big enough to come down with a good chunk of them if it is thrown close to them.

Defense - The DL over powered the Malden line but seemed to do it with raw power and little technique. The second level was a lot of the same story. They were faster than anything Malden had and often met them in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage. When Malden did throw the ball it look so long to get there that the D showed up about the same time.

Final thought: Give the Trinity bunch a couple of seasons with a descent coach and they would be nearly unstoppable.
 
I watched trinity's last 2 games last night and came to pretty much the same conclusion you did. The o-line is huge, but do nothing with it. They stand straight up and take two steps and then they're done. Looks like they rely completely on skill players talent. The d-line looked a little better but for their size I thought they would be more impressive. Would be an amazing team if someone would have taught them how to play football, especially as a team.
 
I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar rolls to the title because history tell us they will. There is no denying how good they are.

But I have have seen both teams play this year...and if there is a Class 2 team out there that can possibly hang with Lamar...it's Trinity.

If Trinity has all their players back (hurt RB and suspended WR)...and IF (and this is a big IF)...they can play a clean game as far as turnovers and major mistakes...that could actually be a ball game.

I wouldn't have said so after seeing Lamar crush Valle...but after seeing Trinity "on-the-hoof" vs. Lutheran North...yeah, I'd say there is a chance.

But I agree with you...Trinity lacks in discipline and consistency in execution to fully take advantage of all their raw talent.

Lamar may blow them out...but they need to bring their A-Game for this one...for this will be the only time all season that Lamar will be facing a team with as many horses as they have.
 
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I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar rolls to the title because history tell us they will. There is no denying how good they are.

But I have have seen both teams play this year...and if there is a Class 2 team out there that can possibly hang with Lamar...it's Trinity.

If Trinity has all their players back (hurt RB and suspended WR)...and IF (and this is a big IF)...they can play a clean game as far as turnovers and major mistakes...that could actually be a ball game.

I wouldn't have said so after seeing Lamar crush Valle...but after seeing Trinity "on-the-hoof" vs. Lutheran North...yeah, I'd say there is a chance.

But I agree with you...Trinity lacks in discipline and consistency in execution to fully take advantage of all their raw talent.

Lamar may blow them out...but they need to bring their A-Game for this one...for this will be the only time all season that Lamar will be facing a team with as many horses as they have.
I would agree with that, Monett had some horses too and are in the final 4 in class 3. That was a good game for Lamar. I don't know if trinity compares to monett....
 
I would agree with that, Monett had some horses too and are in the final 4 in class 3. That was a good game for Lamar. I don't know if trinity compares to monett....

Not making excuses, but it should at least be noted that Lamar was also without their best player in that Monett game. Hardman is easily an all state player on both sides of the ball.

My biggest concern is the penalties. In all three games which have been conpetitive(Monett, Valle, Mt View) Lamar has been committing a ton of penalties but has so far been able to overcome them.
 
Not making excuses, but it should at least be noted that Lamar was also without their best player in that Monett game. Hardman is easily an all state player on both sides of the ball.

My biggest concern is the penalties. In all three games which have been conpetitive(Monett, Valle, Mt View) Lamar has been committing a ton of penalties but has so far been able to overcome them.
I wouldn't say Valle and mt view were all that competitive. They both scored I guess. Depends on what you think competitive is. Lamar didn't score on every other play, so I guess they competed better than others Lamar has faced. There has definitely been way too many penalties though.
 
I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar rolls to the title because history tell us they will. There is no denying how good they are.

But I have have seen both teams play this year...and if there is a Class 2 team out there that can possibly hang with Lamar...it's Trinity.

If Trinity has all their players back (hurt RB and suspended WR)...and IF (and this is a big IF)...they can play a clean game as far as turnovers and major mistakes...that could actually be a ball game.

I wouldn't have said so after seeing Lamar crush Valle...but after seeing Trinity "on-the-hoof" vs. Lutheran North...yeah, I'd say there is a chance.

But I agree with you...Trinity lacks in discipline and consistency in execution to fully take advantage of all their raw talent.

Lamar may blow them out...but they need to bring their A-Game for this one...for this will be the only time all season that Lamar will be facing a team with as many horses as they have.

I would not even call Trinity the favorite against Lawson.
 
I would not even call Trinity the favorite against Lawson.
You may be right...Lawson is very good and Todd Dunn does a great job getting them ready.

But Trinity has more size and speed...but agreed...that doesn't always determine the winner.
 
Watched a little over a quarter of the Lawson/SCA game. Lawson is crisp. They will be out manned up front but may have the versatility Malden didn't have on offense to overcome it. QB has a good arm and can make plays with his feet. The backs run very had and are not afraid to put their should down and hit someone.

Side note - SCA is also very well coached and not sure the age of their roster but they have some good players. They need to get a play calling system. Number 3 plays both ways and makes a 50yd round trip to the sideline every offensive play. I got tired just watching him.
 
Watched the first quarter of the Trinity/Malden game today at lunch. Will watch the rest this evening. Trinity is huge, fast, and skilled. Very physically gifted. BUT they play very sloppy, lazy and undisciplined. As crazy as this is to say, they'll have the better athletes and probably the better raw players on the field against Lamar this weekend.
But that's what they are, raw. Lamar will win this one by 21 points, simply for the fact that they're a better TEAM and will outwork Trinity.
 
Watched the first quarter of the Trinity/Malden game today at lunch. Will watch the rest this evening. Trinity is huge, fast, and skilled. Very physically gifted. BUT they play very sloppy, lazy and undisciplined. As crazy as this is to say, they'll have the better athletes and probably the better raw players on the field against Lamar this weekend.
But that's what they are, raw. Lamar will win this one by 21 points, simply for the fact that they're a better TEAM and will outwork Trinity.

I think you may be a week ahead...This week is Lamar/Brookfield and Trinity/Lawson ...however I do think the Lamar/Trinity matchup for the championship is expected.
 
I think Lawson will win, mostly for reasons mentioned above. Dunn and staff do an excellent job every year.
Many times, deep in the playoffs, a team gets exposed for not being very fundamentally sound, disciplined, etc., vs a decidedly lesser-talented team that is. For an illustration, see: the last 20 years of St. Louis football, as a whole. Also, on the opposite hand, see: the last 20+ years of Webb City football, among others, as a whole.
Lawson 35, Trinity 12
Kearney 35, Ladue 20
Maryville 48, Miller Career 6
Monett 28, Berkeley 7
Lamar 58, Brentwood 0
Harrisonville 28, Parkway North 27
Battle 32, FZN 14
Staley 45, Vianney 7
BS 28, Kirkwood 14
 
As crazy as this is to say, they'll have the better athletes and probably the better raw players on the field against Lamar this weekend.
Humm...I've seen Lamar play, and they have some pretty top notch athletes...Going to be hard to convince me of that one...
 
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Not reaching at all, simply quoting the statement that I don't agree with... I agreed with the rest, but Lamar has some exceptional athletes that love to play football and are very disciplined, which makes them even better athletes...Hence the quote
 
Not reaching at all, simply quoting the statement that I don't agree with... I agreed with the rest, but Lamar has some exceptional athletes that love to play football and are very disciplined, which makes them even better athletes...Hence the quote
I've seen both this year, and Trinity has the 'better' athletes. Even though Coach Dunn and I went to school together, I would LOVE to see a Trinity-Lamar final. Please take in a game of their's on-line if you still disagree.
 
I also watched that game. I agree with your assessment and also noticed those big lineman from Trinity taking a knee every down after the 3rd play. Curious to see what role conditioning plays in a closer game.

If anyone has the site to view this game, please post.
 
I also watched that game. I agree with your assessment and also noticed those big lineman from Trinity taking a knee every down after the 3rd play. Curious to see what role conditioning plays in a closer game.

If anyone has the site to view this game, please post.

That was something else I was noticing as well. They're very very fast, but very poorly conditioned. I'm sure the weather cooling down will help to an extent, but not a whole lot.

Hell, the state title game is going to be played outside this year.
 
If you haven't watched Lamar in person, their film does not do them justice for their speed and explosiveness. I have not watched Trinity, but Lamar is fast, deep, and disciplined. This may be the best all around talented Lamar team I have watched in the last 5-6 years. They will be tough to beat.
 
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