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To the posters that like to talk trash about Stoops...

Mitsurugi san

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...and even to the ones that like Stoops (but mostly to the ones that talk trash):

Do you really think that OU would be better off without Stoops (who's out their to get on the coaching front that's better)?

I'd ask the same question about Georgia, but no one on these boards ever talks about the Bulldogs (this notion of "well you haven't one a championship yet, so there MUST be a better option out there for us" mentality just doesn't make sense to me...)
 
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What did you expect? The same people who bash stoops wanted pinked gone after getting beat by an academy team in a bowl.
 
Any reasonably available coach (so no Saban, or the like, if that's what you mean)
If, say, chip Kelly is fired by the Eagles, then I think that's a pretty clear upgrade from big game bob. Short of that, I think the devil you know if better than the devil you don't.

Here's what I'll say about stoops: he's not doing anything that's not been done before at OU. He's a solid coach. Not great, but he'll usually have OU in the top 20 with an occasional run at the playoff. If OU is fine with being that program, then they should stick with BGB.
 
...and even to the ones that like Stoops (but mostly to the ones that talk trash):

Do you really think that OU would be better off without Stoops (who's out their to get on the coaching front that's better)?

I'd ask the same question about Georgia, but no one on these boards ever talks about the Bulldogs (this notion of "well you haven't one a championship yet, so there MUST be a better option out there for us" mentality just doesn't make sense to me...)

If I were an OU fan, I'd be concerned that they haven't won conference outright since 2010. The trend is downward and I don't think anyone can argue that. On the bright side you haven't fallen into the abyss like some of your rivals so the ship can be righted. I look for OU to leave the big bevo soon for several reasons (recruiting being one of the top).
 
OU has finished in the top ten (9) times the last 15 years(2013 & 2010 being the latest). (13) times they've finished in the top 25. From 1985 to 2000 they finished (3) times in the top ten. And (7) times in that time frame in the top 25.

Terrible run they're on.
 
Stoops is better than Gary Gibbs (who was hobbled by the mess Switzer left behind) and John Blake. That much is for certain.
 
I don't think it's a stretch to say Oklahoma isn't as dominant as it was in the 00's (not to say they were the premiere team in the country during that span). The 10's haven't been super kind to us. I have always hated the idea that Oklahoma should fire Stoops. There is no readily available coach that would be a clear upgrade. When a bad season is 2 or 3 losses your team is in pretty good shape. I do think that the coaching staff's loss of interest in recruiting Texas as hard as they used to was a mistake and it is showing on the field. When Stoops and co decided to recruit more "nationally" the play on the field took a pretty decent hit. Are those two things coincidentally related? Possibly, but I don't believe in coincidences very often.
 
Fact is, as a whole, OU has dominated the Big 12 under Stoops. (Yes when you have won a league nearly half of the time and no one else has more that three titles, that IS domination) Chip Kelly would not be a CLEAR UPGRADE. What is that based on? All those college national championships he had? Not sure I have ever seen him called BGB, at least you didnt refer to him as HCBS.
 
Fact is, as a whole, OU has dominated the Big 12 under Stoops. (Yes when you have won a league nearly half of the time and no one else has more that three titles, that IS domination) Chip Kelly would not be a CLEAR UPGRADE. What is that based on? All those college national championships he had? Not sure I have ever seen him called BGB, at least you didnt refer to him as HCBS.
You've never heard stoops called big game bob?

Go look at chip Kelly's tenure at Oregon. It's a pretty spectacular run.
 
I will admiit I get frustrated with Stoops sometimes the stubbornness when it comes to loyalty to some of the assistants, like his brother Mike who clearly isn't getting it done. You have to remember that while it has been quite a while Stoops did win a NC at OU and has come very close several other times. I don't think he is the best coach in the game nowadays but I don't think OU is on some big decline either.

I know those that hate OU and Stoops probably won't be swayed but behind the scenes he is really known as a very very good guy. Below is an article below but he is very charitable with his time and takes time to visit the OU medical center on a regular basis to see terminally ill kids. Not saying he is the only coach to do that but he has done it for years and not just when the cameras are rolling.

Kourtlyn Uzoma grew sick.

Just 13 years old, he was sick of being sick, sick of the battles with a wicked cancer, sick of the relapses and the two years trying to get well inside a hospital.
Then came word of a special camp — Kamp Kourtlyn, to be hosted by Bob Stoops and the Sooners at their practice field in Norman.

Just for him. And for a day, Kourtlyn wasn't sick anymore.

"He hung around with the football players, tossed the ball,” said Kourtlyn's dad, Clement Uzoma. "Bob took him in his BMW and they went around everywhere. It was just joyful to see Kourtlyn and his face and how he reacted when he got home.”

Such an effect Stoops had on the little man.

"Bob Stoops,” Clement said, "was God's angel sent to Kourtlyn.”

While few know this personal side of Stoops, similar stories stream from the many who have either seen or experienced the Oklahoma football coach's continual outreach and acts of compassion for sick children.

Publicly, it may be a hard and rugged persona that Stoops puts forth, but privately, particularly when in the company of kids in distress — which is often — he's gentle and soft.

"What's impressive, it's something he doesn't share with other people,” said former Sooner Jacob Gutierrez, who became known for his own charitable acts while at OU. "It's not a publicity thing. It's him being who he is. He understands he can make an impact on other people's lives, and he takes the time to do that.

"It's not because he wants the attention or it's someone making him, it's just because.

"And that's who coach Stoops is.”



Bob Stoops: behind the scenes
Kay Tangner, a volunteer at The Children's Hospital at OU Medical Center, first invited Stoops and his players to a pep rally the young cancer patients wanted to throw to celebrate the Sooners' 2000 national championship.
Stoops accepted.

And he's been returning ever since.

More and more frequently over time.

In season. The off-season. Over the summer.

Sometimes Stoops arrives with players. Many times he slips in alone, unannounced.

"We were in the hospital a lot last year,” said Stacy Hasley, whose 7-year-old daughter Jordan is in remission from leukemia. "One morning, it was 8 o'clock and there's this knock on the door. And the door opens and it's him.

"It's just a very cool thing that he does.”

Stoops has stopped in at the hospital with his own family on Thanksgiving mornings and also near Christmas.

When he can, he celebrates birthdays with the kids.

"Just hangs out,” Tangner said. "Talks. Sits on the edge of the bed.”

If anything, Stoops has avoided any attention when it comes to his time at the hospital and his fight for the cause.

Even his charity, the Bob Stoops Champions Foundation, aimed at helping ill or disadvantaged children, maintains a low profile.

Only recently, sensing that he could help enhance awareness of the need for critical bone marrow matches that many sick patients are awaiting, has Stoops peeled back the curtain.

During the team's annual Media Day earlier this month, Stoops welcomed reporters to a volunteer testing procedure to register potential donors with the National Marrow Donor Program.

Stoops was among 84 individuals, mostly players, who added their name to the registry.

"You have the opportunity to save somebody's life,” Stoops said. "It's pretty neat when you think about it. I see a lot of kids at the Children's Hospital at OU Medical Center that are awaiting bone marrow transplants, or awaiting matches.

"Or I see a lot of them that have already had their match and had their transplant and are recovering from it. And I know the difference it makes in their lives.”



Reaching out
Even kids focused on overcoming cancer know who Bob Stoops is.
Some, however, may not be such big fans — at first.

"Kids are so honest,” Tangner said. "They'll say, ‘I have to tell you, I don't like OU. I like OSU.'

"And he'll say, ‘Well, that's OK. Everybody's got to like somebody.' And by the end, it's not even about football. It's about a friend.”

And friend is the word most associated with Stoops in his relationships with the kids and their families.

"Oh my goodness, each family thinks they're Bob Stoops' special patient,” said Dr. Rene McNall, a pediatric oncologist at the hospital. "He has this amazing way to remember all their names.

"I can't tell you the number of patients and parents who are in the middle of this very stressful thing and they think Bob has this special place in his heart just for them.

"And he does. He just has a way of making them all feel special.”

T.J. Hutchings was a promising 17-year-old high school pitcher with a baseball scholarship to the University of North Texas when persistent pain on his right hip led to an MRI. Doctors discovered a baseball-sized tumor, and diagnosed him with Ewing's sarcoma, a cancer that most often strikes between the ages of 10 and 20.

They also found three spots on Hutchings' right lung.

"I was in the hospital,” Hutchings said, "and cach Stoops came by and introduced himself, like I didn't already know him before.”

A few months later, Hutchings' treatment ramped up — on his birthday no less — with radiation tacked on to chemotherapy.

"They told me to come down to the nurses station,” Hutchings said. "They had all these balloons and stuff. I thought, ‘Oh, that's nice, the nurses threw a party for me.'

"I turned the corner and Bob Stoops and Adrian Peterson were there
 
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BTW, If Stoops were to leave....and I neither want him to leave nor do I expect it...thought I think Mike Stoops needs to go my top 3 if I had any coach right now would be:

1. Saban
2. Chip Kelly
3. Kevin Sumlin

Would not want Urban Meyer because I think he is a sleazeball though he can really coach.
 
Stoops is better than Gary Gibbs (who was hobbled by the mess Switzer left behind) and John Blake. That much is for certain.

Gibbs was hobbled by the mess Switzer left? You act like you were a witness to these teams. Dude switzer stopped coaching there in 1988 before you were born. Please stop acting like an expert.
 
BTW, If Stoops were to leave....and I neither want him to leave nor do I expect it...thought I think Mike Stoops needs to go my top 3 if I had any coach right now would be:

1. Saban
2. Chip Kelly
3. Kevin Sumlin

Would not want Urban Meyer because I think he is a sleazeball though he can really coach.

Saban isn't a sleazeball but Urban Meyer is??? o_O
 
Saban isn't a sleazeball but Urban Meyer is??? o_O
I don't know that Saban would ever be the lift of the party but I actually think he is a pretty stand up guy. I've always respected him while I think Meyer always has been one step ahead of the law so to say.
 
Gibbs was hobbled by the mess Switzer left? You act like you were a witness to these teams. Dude switzer stopped coaching there in 1988 before you were born. Please stop acting like an expert.
Gibbs was actually a pretty good coach. The problem Gibbs had was a couple of his teams he coached were way overrated going into the season and he beat all the teams that he should have beaten but didn't didn't beat Texas, Nebraska and Colorado.
 
Gibbs was hobbled by the mess Switzer left? You act like you were a witness to these teams. Dude switzer stopped coaching there in 1988 before you were born. Please stop acting like an expert.
I'm sorry, I forgot you had to be alive to understand what happened at any point in history. Are you really saying Gibbs wasn't hurt by the sanctions (especially the 30% reduction in scholarships) that the NCAA levied against OU when Switzer resigned in 88 and Gibbs took over in 89? Please make that argument to me.
 
I'm sorry, I forgot you had to be alive to understand what happened at any point in history. Are you really saying Gibbs wasn't hurt by the sanctions (especially the 30% reduction in scholarships) that the NCAA levied against OU when Switzer resigned in 88 and Gibbs took over in 89? Please make that argument to me.

No what I am saying is some of us actually watched numerous OU games while Switzer and Gibbs were coaching. We saw the talent level and execution of the team. We didn't get our information from Wikipedia and then try to act like a football historian. Comical.
 
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Absolutely not I would not fire stoops but I would make my defensive players go through the Oklahoma drill Every day until they decide to wrap up And tackle!
 
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