The TRUMPettes here call hillary a liar?
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Ok you guys win. having your state downgraded by S&P Global is always a good thing
And having qualified teacher shortages is a good thing I guess. Gotta get that "quality" Kansas education. Do I still get to learn creationism in science class in Kansas?
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/07/kansas-teacher-exodus/398609/
May I ask you one simple question? How did Reagan do anything without the Dems signing off on it? He had no control of the House or the Senate in any of the 8 years he was in office.
You need to get a real job or better yet own a business and try to make payroll. Once you do that then come back and bring some ideas to the table. You have no clue what you are talking about here. You completely ignored 84 years of history of which party has primarily controlled this government. You are controlled by ignorance and hatred of the Republican Party. Granted there is a lot there to hate, but to say they have created this mess, isn't even close to accurate.
They spent money in a very liberal way and that is exactly the reason we need to start governing like true conservative should govern. I'm not defending the republican party. They are a huge part of the problem, but they are not all of the problem like nut job wants to paint them to be. You can't ignore the fact the democrats had free reign to do whatever they wanted for decade, after decade, after decade, after decade. The republicans really screwed up when Bush was in office. Had they actually stood for something we could have been even instead of 20 trillion in debt. We have had 16 straight years of uncontrolled spending, and we now have more of it promised. Clinton found a way to work with Gingrich and we did make a move in the right direction. That is what needs to happen again. They need to work together and quit spending money we don't have.
Big picture, this is the reason Obama has had 8 years. I have to give credit where credit is due. BO lead us out of the worst ED since before you and any of us were born. The reasons for the fall were exacerbated by GB tax cuts. Moving on.
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I have both a real job(2 of them) and a business, 5k. Learn to only open your yap when you know what you're talking about son.
Reagan had the veto but he knew that unless the gubmint spent spent spent that economy was going to stay in the crapper.
Reagan was complicit in the dumocraps spending BUT he took taxes off the wealthy (and added some back to you middle classers) and that is where you get your deficit.
Simple math son.
But then how would we give all that money to israel and neocons?
I'm glad you agree we need to vote Libertarian. That's the only way the country makes real (conservative) fiscal progress.
Gary Johnson thanks you for your vote.
Wonder what Trump's tax cuts will do for us? Especially since he's given no inclination toward decreased spending.
Hmmm tax cuts plus spending increase...Wonder what that will do for the economy...for the debt...for the American people...
So you honestly think Trump will cut taxes? No freakin way. The man is more liberal than Hillary. By a long shot.
He also doesn't care about abortion, religious freedom or gun control either.
That may be true, but he's given indicators.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...ets-back-together-to-advise-trump-on-tax-plan
I think he will because I think an R Congress would send him a tax cut that he would sign. It's not about him, it's about Congress.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/analysi...-big-cuts-in-taxes-federal-revenue-1450807194 it's the standard R program of gut the budget to give big tax cuts to the wealthy that will be paid for someday by the bottom 95%
His original plan was so ridiculous it led to one of my favorite articles of the primary:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/05/17/Experts-Weigh-Donald-Trump-s-Tax-Plan-and-Find-It-Wanting
Complete with the following quote from a Republican:
“It would lose an enormous amount of revenue, cut taxes dramatically for the very richest households,” he said. “It would dramatically increase deficits. I don't see how even a Republican-controlled legislature would have the guts to pass this.”
Someone clearly is out of touch with the current Republican Congress.
To be fair to him, I don't know how much he cares about this topic. I think it's like abortion where he just copied some generic R plan so they couldn't attack him on it from the right in the primary.
What is more concerning to me is what I mentioned to Duck - an R Congress would send him a horrible tax cut package that destroys the budget to fund welfare for the rich, and he would probably sign it.
Neuty I am not sure congress is going to look the same after this election
The big repub donors are saying screw Trump and are going to spend a fortune on congressional races.
It's difficult to imagine the House not being R.
And, realistically, if Trump wins the White House, the Senate is decently likely to still be R. These votes are correlated.
Given the results of the primaries, these bodies are basically going to be the same. They will be carrying the water for rich person and corporate tax cuts.
I'm not so sure that will be the case, but you are probably right. Lots can happen between now and Nov.
What part of the above thread does not say the same thing as the previous 10,000 ?
1) Republicans blame Democrats...
2) Democrats blame Republicans...
3) Third Party's blame both ...
4) State Rights Advocates (vs) Washington blame you all....
1) Republicans blame Democrats...
2) Democrats blame Republicans...
3) Third Party's blame both ...
4) State Rights Advocates (vs) Washington blame you all....
I think Clinton is more likely to win than Trump still but there's a lot of time left.
The Senate is also a bit underpolled so far. We need to know more about Illinois/New Hampshire/Pennsylvania/Ohio/Arizona/Indiana/Nevada/Wisconsin/etc.
Rs got a big lift when Rubio decided to run again.
I'm not the master of politics like some on here, but since I believe both candidates are horrible, here is my wish.
If Trump wins the presidency, I hope for a democrat controlled house and senate.
If Hillary wins the presidency, I hope for a republican controlled house and senate.
Maybe that will keep them from accomplishing too much of their agenda.
If Trump wins the presidency, I hope for a democrat controlled house and senate.
If Hillary wins the presidency, I hope for a republican controlled house and senate.
Maybe that will keep them from accomplishing too much of their agenda.
What part of the above thread does not say the same thing as the previous 10,000 ?
1) Republicans blame Democrats...
2) Democrats blame Republicans...
3) Third Party's blame both ...
4) State Rights Advocates (vs) Washington blame you all....
You realize Gary Johnson is the only REAL state rights candidate.
Keep pretending you're conservative Scout.
Yay more gridlock so nothing gets done for another 4 years...outstanding position.
What exactly needs to be done that we have not addressed in the last 240 years?
With the crap legislation they have passed in my lifetime alone, I HOPE nothing gets done.
What exactly needs to be done that we have not addressed in the last 240 years?
With the crap legislation they have passed in my lifetime alone, I HOPE nothing gets done.
Addressing the debt in a substantial way
Ending the war on drugs (it's a failure by virtually any metric)
Weaning ourselves off oil toward sustainable energy sources.
Improving public education.
Addressing legitimate systemic issues relating to the way minorities interact with police and vice versa.
Those are some places to start.
No, a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Gary Johnson. But if you want to vote for a liberal, feel free.
So enacting laws to fix other laws that were enacted earlier?
It is a shame we don't have more of this figured out by now. Sometimes I think they create problems so they will have problems to solve.
The world changes every dayWhat exactly needs to be done that we have not addressed in the last 240 years?
With the crap legislation they have passed in my lifetime alone, I HOPE nothing gets done.
I'm voting for Koster because right to work is wrong for Missouri. I'd give a more eloquent answer but I fear I had a bit too much wine at dinner.
I thought you were all about INDIVIDUAL CHOICE and Libertarian things????
Yes and silencing people's ability to collectively bargain and determine their future earning potential is against what I believe in.
God forbid people have the OPTION the LIBERTY to collectively bargain...they should just take whatever they're given and be happy about it...
You don't have collective bargaining when the alternative is unemployment.
