The Democrats in NYC are cooking the Books
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If you are going to assume 4000 people died of Covid without proof, you also to be fair have to assume tens of thousands have contracted it but never were tested. This is just one example of Dems wanting to make it look as bad as possible.
The best way to is test. But we know who doesn't like facts. It's the B list politicians and the mainstream media.
Then why is it all the dem governors are screaming for more testing while the pub run federal government is dragging their feet on testing?
Seriously?
I didn't know it was questioned. Heard it multiple places including on here. Maybe it didn't happen?
Dems are just screaming for anything they think they can claim isn't happening. If someone is tested, what changes? They either do or don't have it and testing doesn't change that.
WOW the person who complains about needing sources all the time, can't come up with one, and when called on it says, "Heard it multiple places." WOW what a hypocrite.
How many conspiracy theories do reps on here come up with in one week? Anxious to hear today's conspiracy!!
Most of the Florida Spring breakers weren’t from Florida. They went back to their home states and infected the hell out of people. And they weren’t all from NY.
This isn’t that complicated. Most of the old folks in Florida, including my brother and literally his entire community, took things seriously and limited their contacts. They were better and smarter than their Republican Governor. The spring breakers on the beach were another story. Try getting a clue.
This isn’t that complicated. Most of the old folks in Florida, including my brother and literally his entire community, took things seriously and limited their contacts. They were better and smarter than their Republican Governor. The spring breakers on the beach were another story. Try getting a clue.
Like I said, I didn't think it was questioned but since you don't believe what is common knowledge i'll provide you some links.
https://www.politico.com/states/new...-after-uncounted-fatalities-are-added-1275931
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/14/new-york-coronavirus-death-toll-soars-after-probab/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ll-3700-new-deaths-added-today-revised-count/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nursin...virus-outbreak-appears-to-plateau-11586892250
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...-as-cuomo-declares-the-worst-is-over/2372758/
https://www.theblaze.com/news/new-y...-toll-who-never-tested-positive-for-the-virus
Is that enough or are you unpersuaded?
Like I said, it wasn't exactly hidden news!
So it's ok for you to ask everyone else to prove everything they post, but if you are asked to you have to act like a jerk. Good job!
When people post things they CAN'T link to I ask for links. And, they never provide them! Why? Because they made it up or at least embellished what was true. You've never done that have you?
That doesn't sound like someone who is not making excuses for his wrong prediction. Hmmmm....
You can point out the bias if a link is given. If you CAN'T provide a link, it better be opinion.
Hmmmm. What difference would 4000 make on my prediction? 7000 has been blown out of the water. The stat that matters to me is fatality rate. Adding deaths without adding positives just falsely drives up the death rate.
Then tell Trump to get on with testing everyone possible. He seems to be the only one that doesn't think more testing is a good idea. I reckon he doesn't want the real numbers to come out.
Oversimplification. Testing people for Coronavirus is one thing if they haven’t been exposed and don’t have symptoms. Largely a waste of time and resources at this point. Testing people for antibodies is another thing altogether. The latter is in the very early stage and it takes a while to ramp up but Trump is pushing for it.
Why would I want more testing? I see no value in it. If you got it, you got it. Testing is to know how to treat, same as flu.
My point, which you missed, is that you can't add to the death toll by estimate without adding to the contracted number by estimate too if you want an accurate ratio number. I suspect they don't like accuracy though.
Statistically speaking if you're healthy and under 45, the chances of dying from the virus are near zero. This is important when formulating public health policy.
You better tell this family. And several of the healthy nurses who have passed away.
Well maybe because we know know that people that do NOT have any symptoms yet seem to be very contagious. How do you know when to open businesses and schools if you don't do more testing. Why is it that nearly everybody in this battle want more testing except Trump?
There's no point to this post.
Since I have looked at the statistics and ages of the deceased, I already knew some young people have perished.
You do know what "statistically" means right? Young, healthy people die from the flu.
Statistically if you're under 50, BMI under 30, with no other significant health concerns it's VERY unlikely you'll die. Like infantismally unlikely for you to die. Doesn't mean it CAN'T happen, but there are risks involved in being alive. That's just reality. Yeah you can find exceptions to every rule. Congratulations, the fact remains the likelyhood of the young and healthy to die is REALLY, REALLY small.
near zero means it’s not zero. It’s very real to the families who are torn up with grief right now. I’m not big on putting a value on human life. You guys should have all worked for Ford back in the Pinto days.
young people can also spread the damn virus with no symptoms. I don’t know why that is so hard to understand.
You don't care about human life, you've already proven that.
You don't get to say people dying is funny and act like you care if people die. Hypocrite.
It’s real if a man dies of breast cancer too and it actually happens to hundreds of men every year but statistically it is pretty insignificant.
The point isn’t that a young person can’t catch it and die or pass it on to someone older and vulnerable. It is that someone over 65 with underlying health conditions can die of Flu A as well and thousands do each year and it doesn’t shut down the economy indefinitely.
I’m not saying don’t take reasonable precautions but there has never been nor will there likely every be a time when there isn’t going to be a small but not zero risk that some people aren’t going to be sick and die from a virus and we should quit acting like there is going to be a time when that is true.
We need data to make informed public health policy to protect people. The risks will still be there. We know that the virus is very contagious. Young people that resume work and socializing should stay clear of high-risk folks.
Pinto?
You should've been at Valley Forge, they fought a war with no shoes, starvation battling a smallpox epidemic.
yes the Pinto. When Ford realized the Pinto exploded frequently when rear ended and quite a few Americans died because of it.
But when they compared the cost of recalling all of the cars vs the cost of paying off a few hundred families who sued, they decided to let em die.
Thus, they literally calculated the value of a human life. When the whistleblower let that cat out of the bag, I can tell you it caused an uproar. People were disgusted.
Yep, sometimes it costs companies money to keep people safe. Deal with it.
Losing money is definitely in the equation along with loss of life. To pretend it's an easy decision, either way, is dishonest.
Testing does NOTHING to stop the virus!
The virus will spread again as soon as things go back to normal. Unless there is a vaccine or sure fire treatment there is no way to prevent it. Even with a vaccine, tens of millions get the flu every year. All the shutdown chaos has done is prevent a surge that could overwhelm the healthcare system (hasn't even been real close to that) but spread out the infections for a longer time frame.
Can we learn things from testing....yes. Valuable things....yes. Does it change the outcome....very little.
