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The border

kaskaskiakid

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Record crossings and detainments in Dec at the border. Dammit, Joe, do something....anything!! Losing control of the border may cost him an election. He's losing support from middle America.
 
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Something I've noticed about the coverage I see at the border:

Do you see how clean and well dressed these folks are? It's almost like they didnt' just walk across a continent to cross that line.

Makes you wonder.
 
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Not sure why you are worried about it, kkkkidddd, Duck told us it's not a problem. Of course he's cool with males pretending to be females and competing in sports against them also so I guess you might consider the source.

According to CBP numbers somewhere in the 7-8 million range have entered our country illegally (catch and release) since the corrupt, demented Mr. Biden took the reins. And that's just the ones they counted, not the "gotaways" or the ones that were never seen, period.

No serious nation on this planet allows their borders to be ignored like the USA, the only explanation that makes sense to me is that it's being done on purpose.

It's odd that this issue seems to be finally getting some coverage in the MSM, makes me wonder if the Dems are orchestrating putting Sleepy Joe out to pasture before the next selection. It's not like he is actually running things anyway.
 
Not sure why you are worried about it, kkkkidddd, Duck told us it's not a problem. Of course he's cool with males pretending to be females and competing in sports against them also so I guess you might consider the source.

According to CBP numbers somewhere in the 7-8 million range have entered our country illegally (catch and release) since the corrupt, demented Mr. Biden took the reins. And that's just the ones they counted, not the "gotaways" or the ones that were never seen, period.

No serious nation on this planet allows their borders to be ignored like the USA, the only explanation that makes sense to me is that it's being done on purpose.

It's odd that this issue seems to be finally getting some coverage in the MSM, makes me wonder if the Dems are orchestrating putting Sleepy Joe out to pasture before the next selection. It's not like he is actually running things anyway.
Ahh, the old MSM conspiracy!! Geez, the border has been in the news practically every day for the past year.

Good to see hoops sticking to the MAGA playbook.
 
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Record detainments? What is he supposed to do?
Shut the border!! People from all over the globe are flocking to the border because they know it's a freakin' sive right now and eventually they will get in either legally or illegally, and you and I will support them!!!!!!!!
 
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Shut the border!! People from all over the globe are flocking to the border because they know it's a freakin' sive right now and eventually they will get in either legally or illegally, and you and I will support them!!!!!!!!
they've been doing that for decades.
Now they happen to be showing up in nice new clothes and clean shoes though.

Weird.
 
Ahh, the old MSM conspiracy!! Geez, the border has been in the news practically every day for the past year.

Good to see hoops sticking to the MAGA playbook.
No playbook here Mr. Kid, just an astute observer of what's going on in the world, especially the stuff that's as plain as the nose on your face.

Maybe just my perception but it seems like the utter fiasco that's occurring down at the border is getting a lot more attention as we get closer to the next prez contest.

If that's all you found in my post to disagree with I'm glad to know that and would say that you are batting a thousand with your thoughts in this thread, cheers!
 
Record detainments? What is he supposed to do?
Nobody is really being detained the way I understand it, they are being "processed" and released into the country with a notice to appear at some immigration hearing that is years out. It's a mockery of our immigration laws.

Legal immigration is good, the more the better in my opinion.

What we have going on at our border is not legal and not good for our country.
 
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Hell, I don't like the fact that we have 16 million illegals already living here. Where else in the world does that happen?? It's crazy and stupid to allow it!!
 
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Hoop guy, if you think Trump will fix the immigration problem you are on drugs. Obama deported far more people than Trump and Trump had the senate and house and didn’t get an immigration deal done to fix the problem. He didn’t wall off the border and Mexico didn’t pay for anything. He is a fraud. He is making promises he won’t keep again and you will swallow it whole like a dumb arse MAGA always does.

How many million did Reagan give amnesty to? He started a lot of this nightmare.

Lastly, I have never said I supported people with penises playing girls sports. EVER. What I said is that we have more urgent issues right now than rushing thru legislation on that culture war BS.

Just go ban some books like “To Kill a Mockingbird” or throw those evil librarians in the gulag. And leave me out of it.
 
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How many million did Reagan give amnesty to? He started a lot of this nightmare.

Under Reagan, about 3 million illegals came forward and were granted amnesty, with Reagan's promise to "close the door" on illegal immigration with stricter border patrols and stricter penalties for anyone hiring illegal workers. Not nearly enough border agents were hired to stop the illegal crossings and Congress gutted the provisions on hiring illegals. We never "closed the door".

Honestly, the only solution I see is another round of amnesty for illegals already here (with a proper background check) and finally shut the door with a flood of new border agents, national guard, and military all along the border as well as drones and technology and physical barriers where appropriate. If we make it clear we are stopping illegal entry into the US, then refugees will stop congregating at the border. Set a number on incoming immigrants each month that we can efficiently process in a couple weeks.
 
The first step is to replace Biden with someone who seriously wants to fix the problem. The only thing preventing this is this bizarre obsession the GOP and hillbilly America has with trying to force Trump back into power. For the love of all that is good and decent NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE.
 
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Biden has asked for money to hire more border patrol agents and processors to get it cleaned up and this do nothing congress won't even give him that. They just want to complain for another year instead of trying to get it fixed.
 
Security at the border should be a military operation. That would end it!
For some reason that seems not to be the way the laws are written for whatever reason. I have no idea why there should have to be some special permission for the military to step in. I guess they couldn't do anything until they had actually crossed to border but Mexico really needs to step up and take of most of this before they ever get to the border. I've seen news footage of them standing and watching while they cut through the fence and did nothing!
 
The border is enormous. It is indefensible for the kind of border security some of you 'fraidy cats want...unless properly funded, which is the job of......anyone? Anyone?

But fear not; I alone have the solution. Annex Mexico. And maybe Central America. Waaaayyy smaller border now and can be funded with the amount of money that you "small government" (hilarious) types are willing to spend.
 
The border is enormous. It is indefensible for the kind of border security some of you 'fraidy cats want...unless properly funded, which is the job of......anyone? Anyone?

But fear not; I alone have the solution. Annex Mexico. And maybe Central America. Waaaayyy smaller border now and can be funded with the amount of money that you "small government" (hilarious) types are willing to spend.
I proposed that on here a couple of years back and got ridiculed. Make Mexico part of the good ole USA.
 
The border is enormous. It is indefensible for the kind of border security some of you 'fraidy cats want.
Station 10 man Army units every mile along the 2,000 mile border. 10 X 2,000 = 20,000.

We already have 380,000 Army troops stationed in the US, and over one million troops from all branches stationed in the US.
 
Station 10 man Army units every mile along the 2,000 mile border. 10 X 2,000 = 20,000.

We already have 380,000 Army troops stationed in the US, and over one million troops from all branches stationed in the US.

You’d have to build a bunch of “bases” to house them wouldn’t you?
 
You’d have to build a bunch of “bases” to house them wouldn’t you?
Not really. A simple barracks every few miles and run weekly supplies to them. I've said many times - what better place to train troops than deserts and canyons - similar to what they would see in the Middle East.
 
Not really. A simple barracks every few miles and run weekly supplies to them. I've said many times - what better place to train troops than deserts and canyons - similar to what they would see in the Middle East.
Train them to use a drone.

Only foot fighting we'll ever do is clearing out a city.
 
I am all for using drones and other means at the border but there will need to be border patrols nearby to apprehend migrants when spotted. To effectively stop illegal crossings esp in desolate areas, there will have to be boots on the ground to make arrests. We have troops stationed all over the globe. Why not put 20,000 along the border?

As I've stated, I am not opposed to legal immigration. We have to make it clear to migrants that they must cross at ports of entry and go thru a vetting process. We have to make a timely process to legally enter the US and gain citizenship.

I've never understood what part of "illegal immigrant" is so hard to understand!! The reason we allow it is purely political - no politician wants to alienate the hispanic voters.

Biden recently ordered razor wires to be removed from the border. WTF Joe!!
 
Borders are all pretend. They are there for no other reason than the human need to create an "us" and a "them." Discuss.
 
The Sioux believed man could not own land.

Ownership was actually one of the concepts Captain Richard Henry Pratt believed they had to introduce to be able to Christianize and assimilate the natives. "Kill the Indian in him, and save the man." Imagine that: no concept of ownership. That means property crimes don't even exist as a concept.
 
"Imagine no possessions.
I wonder if you can.
No need for greed and hunger.
A brotherhood of man."

John Lennon
 
Do you know how many people fly into the USA each year? How about boatloads of people along our shores?

The United States has a total coastline measuring approximately 12,383 miles, and a shoreline measuring 88,633 miles. Alaska is, by far, the state with the longest individual coastline or shoreline, and its coastline is even considered longer than all other states combined. The mainland's west coast has a combined length of 1,293 miles (shore: 7,863 miles), while the southern and eastern coast (from Texas to Maine) have a combined length of 3,700 miles (shore: 45,814 miles).
 
Thanks Cliff Clavin, but the border crisis is at the Mexican border.
its where the illegals are coming in.
And the coast line is wide open.

Also, why didnt trump get mexico to do something about the immigrants? it'd be easier for them to start 'enforcement' on their side.
 
Is the problem, Normy, really just in that one little section of border? You need to do some studying. And think a little harder.
 
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I think we are all aware that the crossings are occurring all along the border from Tijuana to Matamoros .

Congratulations on a new record of 300,000 migrants entering the US in December, and 3,000,000 in '23 - that's roughly the size of the STL Metro area. Maybe you should research what the influx of migrants is doing to the towns along the border.
 
I think we are all aware that the crossings are occurring all along the border from Tijuana to Matamoros .

Congratulations on a new record of 300,000 migrants entering the US in December, and 3,000,000 in '23 - that's roughly the size of the STL Metro area. Maybe you should research what the influx of migrants is doing to the towns along the border.
its' weird how the trumpers blame biden when kingorange didnt do squat to fix the problem.

Almost like they want it to be a 'problem'.
 
I am all for using drones and other means at the border but there will need to be border patrols nearby to apprehend migrants when spotted. To effectively stop illegal crossings esp in desolate areas, there will have to be boots on the ground to make arrests. We have troops stationed all over the globe. Why not put 20,000 along the border?

As I've stated, I am not opposed to legal immigration. We have to make it clear to migrants that they must cross at ports of entry and go thru a vetting process. We have to make a timely process to legally enter the US and gain citizenship.

I've never understood what part of "illegal immigrant" is so hard to understand!! The reason we allow it is purely political - no politician wants to alienate the hispanic voters.

Biden recently ordered razor wires to be removed from the border. WTF Joe!!
What I heard is he wants the Border Patrol to be allowed to cut the razor wire in the case of someone in need of medical assistance while trying to cross. Didn't hear anything about removing it. He said a while back they should remove the big yellow boom thangs the Governor ordered them to put in the middle of the river.
 
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Texas passed a law to allow police to arrest illegals. The DOJ is seeking to repeal the law, Why??? Geez!!!
 
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