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Teaching DBs to go for the Ball

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I had some of my 8mm film from the early 80s made into DVD's so I could enjoy all the success of all my programs at all levels. There is one game that still gets me to this day, how do you teach a hard headed 17 year old to go for the Ball, and not the man when you develop a great defense like the 6-2 stack monster and man up on the outside? How do you convince him it could be the difference between a win and a loss, he goes for the ball- he gets a pick 6, he goes for the man and its PI and helps lose a critical game................
 
I had some of my 8mm film from the early 80s made into DVD's so I could enjoy all the success of all my programs at all levels. There is one game that still gets me to this day, how do you teach a hard headed 17 year old to go for the Ball, and not the man when you develop a great defense like the 6-2 stack monster and man up on the outside? How do you convince him it could be the difference between a win and a loss, he goes for the ball- he gets a pick 6, he goes for the man and its PI and helps lose a critical game................


You don't play man to get picks. You play man to get incompletions.

In man, you play the man. Not the ball. You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth.
 
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I dont know what you want me to say... Most coaches would love to have a physical corner for a change. Isnt that where most teams are stuck putting athletes that dont like to be physical? Shoot!! so i am out there laying hat to anything that moves and one week you teach me to play a certain way... one Friday out of the season. One Friday night of my entire HS career you want me to play a different way??!!? I remember telling Lisa, my GF, that if I laid out that Walnut Heights RB one time, just once, i would be able to write my own ticket to any college I wanted to go. I knew how in demand physical corners were.

But here comes a coach with a great game plan and a really innovative Defense with the 6-2 stack, and you want me to change the way I had played my entire life??? Change how i played the entire time i had played for you?

You were right, One time i played how you wanted and it worked. But when it became nut crunching time i instinctively reverted back to the way i always played for you (i didnt do it on purpose, and just reacted)... 1 game you cant let got of a PI.

I knew a really great DB coach that would rarely ever get on to and get mad at a DB for getting a PI for trying to be more physical... Now stupid PI's is a whole different story... but a good physical move trying to make a play, he would have my back, no yelling would come from him. I hear he is a DC now, and i am not surprised by that. I am not trying to tell you how to Coach, but we are entering that ground again where you think you are GOD and you think there is only one way to coach and play football. We have had this talk before, but let me remind you, you are not God, Nickerson, you are/were just a typing teaching.
 
Well now Im a retired typing teacher, College and NFL coach with a national championship ring thanks to Bo Whitley. I think I more than made up for anything with that full ride you got to do to Cal Poly......
I will say this Djordevich, for a long time I have thought that PI was a HORRIBLE call, but did you have to run your mouth in the locker room???????
 
Well now Im a retired typing teacher, College and NFL coach with a national championship ring thanks to Bo Whitley. I think I more than made up for anything with that full ride you got to do to Cal Poly......
I will say this Djordevich, for a long time I have thought that PI was a HORRIBLE call, but did you have to run your mouth in the locker room???????
Hey....weren't you going to come out of retirement and make a come back in coaching? With your son at the Ivy league school in Pennsylvania that just started a football team. Always knew you would end up back where it all started....
 
Hey Im still stuck in the past, and I even had to go through several changes and crisis, but Heck, that Walnut Heights loss still sticks with me worse than the time that my special teams coordinator lost his playbook before a bowl game..........
Coach Nickerson.....You couldn't coach your way out of a wet paper bag! You got run out of Ampipe after that season. Had you beaten Walnut Heights, we might have made the playoffs, then made a run at another state title! We could of had more pep rallys!
 
Sorry Bosko, too busy polishing my national championship ring from Minnesota State, and reliving my Orlando Breaker years, what were you saying?
You heard me! You only got that national championship ring because of Bo Whitley! Another example of your fine coaching strategy, on Monday Night Football, you had to put in a horrible but really good looking back up QB to try and distract people....
 
Agreed! Youre just an Ampipe booster who clearly never went any where!
I didn't need to go anywhere! I work the mills, like my dad, and his dad before him! Ampipe needs hard working, devoted boosters like myself! Who do you think organizes and energizes those pep rallies??
 
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I HATE pep rallys- I have to see and kiss boosters butts.
I like the NFL and D-1 way- Just win baby
Without those boosters, who secures funds and organizes parents for fundraisers so you can have shiny new equipment? I know your whole team was jealous of the Walnut Heights locker room. Too bad you got run out of town before a new one was built...
 
I am not a big fan of pep rallies either. The last one i went to my best friends told me he got his GF pregnant and wasnt going to SC anymore.
I dont like to brag, but i didnt get to hang out in the back with your and Bri. I was up at the front speaking, driving the ladies crazy.
Who knew in a few short months, all of our lives would be different. Brian would have a baby, Stef and Coach at Cal Poly. And me, Shadow, playing ball at the only place i ever wanted to freaking WEST VIRGINIA! Life is good sometimes... but in Ampipe when it goes bad... it is real bad. Thanks Bosko.
 
I dont like to brag, but i didnt get to hang out in the back with your and Bri. I was up at the front speaking, driving the ladies crazy.
Who knew in a few short months, all of our lives would be different. Brian would have a baby, Stef and Coach at Cal Poly. And me, Shadow, playing ball at the only place i ever wanted to freaking WEST VIRGINIA! Life is good sometimes... but in Ampipe when it goes bad... it is real bad. Thanks Bosko.
What are you thanking me for? You all lost the Walnut Heights game! I did my part. Giving rides, buying beers, organizing pep rallies, heck, I even showed up at school to make sure you knuckleheads got to class!
 
What are you thanking me for? You all lost the Walnut Heights game! I did my part. Giving rides, buying beers, organizing pep rallies, heck, I even showed up at school to make sure you knuckleheads got to class!

That is actually an extremely valid point. Like i said earlier, you werent all bad. You certainly didnt help matters when stuff started heading down hill.
 
That is actually an extremely valid point. Like i said earlier, you werent all bad. You certainly didnt help matters when stuff started heading down hill.
I was just trying to give Stef a ride home. I didn't know he had been kicked off the team, but he certainly deserved it! After Coach made such a boneheaded call at the end of the Walnut Heights game, people were angry. Angry because we didn't get very many tickets to the game, most of us had to stand along the fences, and at Coach! I was just trying to do the town right by running Coach out of town!
 
I was just trying to give Stef a ride home. I didn't know he had been kicked off the team, but he certainly deserved it! After Coach made such a boneheaded call at the end of the Walnut Heights game, people were angry. Angry because we didn't get very many tickets to the game, most of us had to stand along the fences, and at Coach! I was just trying to do the town right by running Coach out of town!
 
Ran me out of town- I believe I was hired at CAL Poly- in the works long before Walnut Heights and before you got a 17 year old that was clearly emotional to do the dirty work you were too much of a coward to do.
Cal Poly or not, the town was already talking about getting rid of you. How many times had Walnut Heights beaten us? That was getting old. People wanted championships! And I already told you, I was there, I organized and led that trashing! Stef was too scared, hesitated, and screwed up. Just like that PI penalty he got in the game!
 
Bosko,
You can't blame Coach Nickerson. Everyone knows the state wouldn't allow Ampipe into the championship game. Uni' s are too damn ugly to be representative of the state of Pennsylvania.
P.S. everyone knows it was you.
I can blame Coach Nickerson all I want!! He made the boneheaded call at the end of the game! It is also Stefans fault! That little chump had the game won but then put Walnut Heights right back in it! As for the uniforms, you better watch it! Those colors have been representing Ampipe for longer than you have been alive! If you wanna share your opinions a little more, Ill be at the pool hall with my buddies after I finish my shift at the mill....
 
Sorry- I was watching our last win in the NFL playoffs- you might have seen it ON TV- blame a 17 year old for something you couldnt do?
Hey! Coach Nickerson! You probably had to change your name so no one would connect you to the disaster of a coaching job you did at Ampipe! I remember that playoff game. You fell into the playoffs as a wild card, beat another sorry expansion team, then got your butt whipped by the Bills!
 
Bosco- were you watching our loss to Buffalo, or too busy working in the mines?
Mine? I aint no coal miner! Im a blue collar, hard workin' steel miller! I grew up, played high school ball in Ampipe, and then went to work in the mills! That what you do in Ampipe! I watched your butt get handed to you by Buffalo! I will say that your assistant who took over did a nice job. TWO Super Bowl titles after you left...
 
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