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The NRA used to be an extraordinary powerful lobbying force in the United States. The NRA has been suffering hit at hit via internal corruption and mismanagement. Other gun groups out there don't have anything compared to the NRA. The real gun lobby in the US are 100 million law abiding gun owners.

Gun owners don't want mass murderers to have guns. We just assume bad people will have guns. And confiscating my gun isn't going to help school children be safer, unless one of us runs into school with our gun and shoot a killer.

This makes two things more clear. The Texas Mass murderer is in Texas. While these children's murdered bodies were still warm Biden immediately went after the easy access to guns narrative and the gun lobbyists. No judge that deems an 18 year old mentally ill, would allow them to buy a gun. Even in Texas.

In the NY massacre, where red flag laws failed to stop the White Supremacist, the narrative was attacking Tucker Carlson and conflating the meaning of The Great Replacement Theory to attack all Republicans.

Progressives speak as though, if we only listen to them, because they have the solution that they can prevent gun massacres. And if we don't, we're Pro Massacre and we want children to die. This is false. I don't trust them to solve any problem.

What they do well is speak in euphemisms, never addressing the specifics. Because after all, if we solved school shootings, by fortifying schools, this would be eliminating a huge chunk of their platform.

In reality, progressives think gun confiscation is the only thing that can work. But even Democrats who own guns, know this is a untenable policy. So it's easier to claim they have the solution, and demonize those that don't acquiesce.
Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting things to get better.

You won’t even admit we have a problem.
It’s time to start trying something else.

which country has the most gun violence?
Which country has the most guns?
Would you say that more guns has fixed our gun violence problem? It is worse. It’s insanity. Whether it’s gang bangers in chi town, suicidal teens or mass murdering bigots, easy access to guns is killing too many people. Period.
 
Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting things to get better.

You won’t even admit we have a problem.
It’s time to start trying something else.

which country has the most gun violence?
Which country has the most guns?
Would you say that more guns has fixed our gun violence problem? It is worse. It’s insanity. Whether it’s gang bangers in chi town, suicidal teens or mass murdering bigots, easy access to guns is killing too many
And exactly how are you going to get rid of the 380 million guns that are in the United States??
 
The absolute dumbest narrative is that "this doesn't happen in other countries." I'm sorry, what? Gun violence and mass casualty attacks don't happen in Central America, South America, Africa, Asia, the Middle East, etc? Is that really what you're going with?
The difference is that violent, hopeless young men in Mexico end up working for cartels. In east Africa they join Al Shabab. In our country they join drug gangs or they sit in isolation in their basement until one day they explode. Different manifestations. The US is a huge diverse society, and in no way does this diminish these murders, but per Capita the US is not thankfully not #1. You should be specific when you make narrative claims.
Once again. You really won’t admit we have a gun violence problem. Answer my question. Has the massive proliferation of guns in the USA lessened the amount of gun violence? Yes or no.
 
We have a proliferation of violence that coincides with the election of Joe Biden and the progressive policies across the board. Yes, men are more indiscriminately violent. Society has changed. Gun ownership is lower. The true issues are not being discussed.
You just can’t admit there is a problem.
There are more guns than ever. Gun sales during the Obama years exploded. We have violence all over and more guns is not the answer. More guns has equaled more gun violence. You act like no one got shot when Trump was in office. All you people did was gripe about Chicago every weekend the entire four years.

There were mass shootings out the arse under Trump and it’s getting worse. But it has nothing to do with Joe Biden. It has to do with guns guns guns.
 
Gun violence and mass casualty attacks don't happen in Central America, South America, Africa, Asia, the Middle East, etc? Is that really what you're going with?
So we are no worse than those countries? What happened to that shining city on a hill?
 
Might want to explore the connection between the moral slide away from traditional Judeo-Christian teaching over the last few generations and the increase in senseless violence.
Oh boy. If only we get more kids going to church and all these shootings will stop. Can't wait.
 
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Insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting things to get better.

You won’t even admit we have a problem.
It’s time to start trying something else.

which country has the most gun violence?
Which country has the most guns?
Would you say that more guns has fixed our gun violence problem? It is worse. It’s insanity. Whether it’s gang bangers in chi town, suicidal teens or mass murdering bigots, easy access to guns is killing too many people. Period.
I'd say 13,000 people killed in gun violence is a statistical zero compared to how many are killed by accidents, vehicle deaths, Stroke, heart disease etc.

Let's not act like gun violence is threat to you or your family on a massive scale. The odds of you dying from gun violence is 1 and around 365 and 1 and 11,000 plus in a mass shooting.

And let me point out again the places with the most strict and oppressive gun laws have the Most gun violence. Clearly a correlation if there ever was one.

The problem isn't guns, it is we have a host of mentally ill people who have started abusing illegal drugs at a young age and damaged their brains at the ever important developmental stage. This leads to a whole host of mental problems that often is not addressed. Most states don't identify the dangerous mental patient or take any measures to incarcerate them because they feel they are patients not possible perpetrators of violence.

Law abiding gun owners don't use guns to harm others but they do according to the CDC use them Defensively to protect themselves from others thousands to millions of times a year. Clearly you would take that away and allow the Criminal and insane element to run wild. What is wrong with you? Why do you want the Wolf to run wild without the tools to protect the sheep?
Once again. You really won’t admit we have a gun violence problem. Answer my question. Has the massive proliferation of guns in the USA lessened the amount of gun violence? Yes or no.
Let me type this slowly 13,000 deaths by gun violence isn't a massive issue....
 
So, the multiple posts showing NRA support and sympathy for a situation means what??? I support the NRA and detest the actions of a demonic maniac that would murder children or anyone. Do I not have sympathy or detest the actions of a deranged murderer? To use a catastrophe as a political basis of attack is pathetically low, even for you. Why have we not seen any posts of the 361 gun murders in Chicago in one year???
Question...exactly what guns would you remove from society? If you say, semi-automatic guns then you would remove a huge amount of guns that have little to no crime rate. What guns would you remove?
On anoth.....the same note, if you want to point out atrocities, you need to be shouting about this murderous administration YOU voted in. Our economy is in such a mess it will take years to recover. Here's murder at a mass scale for you to rant about....abortion! MILLIONS of babies are being murdered in their mother's wombs and you support it. Pathetic.
I've offered before and I'll do it again, do a Facebook live with me and present this undefendable nonsense in a forum that is different than this, drive by, shooting stupid statements forum.
 
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Who said all? You rile yourself up with your nonsense fictional scenarios.

How is the huge decline in church attendance in the last 30 years is working out for our society?
Do you really think getting dressed up and going to a big building to listen to fictional stories has any effect on a person's morality or a society's morality?
 
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I'd say 13,000 people killed in gun violence is a statistical zero compared to how many are killed by accidents, vehicle deaths, Stroke, heart disease etc.
13,000 dead is a statistical zero when compared to other deaths?
1 million deaths but don't take away our right to say no to a shot that could stop it. I guess 1 million is a statistical zero as well.
 
There's a correlation there that probably deserves to be studied, at a minimum, Christophobe.
LOL Christophobe.
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It’s a parable not a fable. Just saying.
It could be a parable, and probably more often considered that in which case I was wrong.
But I was using this definition of Fable - a story, typically a supernatural one incorporating elements of myth and legend.
 
Nothing I stated indicated where my moral compass comes from. However, our entire society's collective moral compass originated from that tradition, fable or not. Now that we're listening to more anti-Christian bigots like yourself and removing the rules, you can see the results. Belief systems like yours are far more responsible for school shootings than the NRA.
Yep, you got me pegged.
 
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It could be a parable, and probably more often considered that in which case I was wrong.
But I was using this definition of Fable - a story, typically a supernatural one incorporating elements of myth and legend.
Thing is there have always been millions of guns in America and kids have always had access to them. Hell when we were in shop class we all made high powered crossbows and had a tournament firing the things all the way across the shop inside the school building. It's people that are turning evil and need dealt with severely.
 
Pretty sure we didn't have fewer people turning evil then as opposed to now. We just didn't hear about it as much.
 
Nothing I stated indicated where my moral compass comes from. However, our entire society's collective moral compass originated from that tradition, fable or not. Now that we're listening to more anti-Christian bigots like yourself and removing the rules, you can see the results. Belief systems like yours are far more responsible for school shootings than the NRA.
You are totally FOS ! In essence, the NRA is a belief system. A very corrupt one at that !
 
Do you really think getting dressed up and going to a big building to listen to fictional stories has any effect on a person's morality or a society's morality?
Yes.......all forms of religion have had a effect on civilization and the morality and ethics of various society's. Sometimes those effects are good and sometimes it has been bad.

Now to say that Churching up this kid would of helped who knows?
 
13,000 dead is a statistical zero when compared to other deaths?
1 million deaths but don't take away our right to say no to a shot that could stop it. I guess 1 million is a statistical zero as well.
Individual rights in a free society are paramount. Life is not without risk. Sad that your answer to society's ill's is to take away rights and to force totalitarian policies on the masses.


The age groups that where most at Risk of C19 65-74 hit a 93% rate of vaxing, 75+ 88%, 50-64 81%,40-49 75%,23-29 67%,18-24 64%, 12-17 60%, under 12 29%. That's some pretty high vax rates and when you factor in that some Doctors recommended no vax do to medical conditions and such, I'd say that forcing and mandating the vax would of had minimal effect on the 1 million number. Just as trying to outlaw and confiscate weapons will not stop the mentally insane or evil people from getting their hands on weapons to kill others.
 
Nope the snowflake is the one who got his feelings hurt over his moral compass being called out for it's reliance on fables.
What you don't seem to understand is that to many if their is not a higher power, a greater meaning to life or existence then their moral compass is Might makes right. Let the strongest rule and control! Weed out the weak and infirm to better the human race and it's genetic line.

You seem to not understand that a small portion of society are born on the Dark Triad scale and that many others are also born on the dark empathy scale as well.

You seem to want to dismiss the part that religion has played in developing a civilized society. Religion probably has little effect on those with the Dark Triad personality but it has and does have a effect on those with moderate to medium dark empathy personality traits.

Sort of ironic that teachers want to guide the moral compass of students and think they can have as much effect as the dogma of religion.

There are large groups of people born daily who are genetically hardwired not to fill empathy/sympathy for those who are not closely associated to their person. Religion has played a large part in making sure they develop a moral code and can become productive citizens.

Strip away Religion and make it a fable and take away the consequences of said religion and then Logically why would those in power or those who can dominate adhere to any of the Norms and Mores of western society.

If there is no soul and nothing after death to many....then why would they care for the suffering or plight of the meek and weak if it benefited theirs and them? If a dark black abyss is the outcome for all and life is basically meaningless and the only reward is what you can get here on this earth then taking and doing what you want to fulfill what ever desires a person wants no matter how disgusting or vile is the only mean to life.

There is a reason that religion and dogma came into being at the dawn of civilizatin and has carried forward. Take it away and one of the Pillars has been destroyed.

That is always the mistake of the atheist Lefty....they somehow think that religion is the problem and that people will naturally want to work in harmony for the greater good and for society. When in fact a huge portion of the population operates with a drive to fulfill only their wants and needs.
 
Pretty sure we didn't have fewer people turning evil then as opposed to now. We just didn't hear about it as much.
I do agree with that to a degree MSM and it's 24/7 hyping of things has had a effect on the perception.

So then taking away the right to bear arms then will not have any effect really then.
 
You are totally FOS ! In essence, the NRA is a belief system. A very corrupt one at that !
Protecting the 2A is corrupt? Making sure people have access to the best self defense weapons is Corrupt? As the CDC put forth guns are used millions of times a year in self defense having the best weapons available per the Constitution is a Just and Enlightened belief system.

What is corrupt is a belief system that wants to leave the innocent defenseless and at the mercy of the Criminal element, a belief system that wants to strip away the Rights of the people to bear arms. Corrupt at the core.

The NRA saves lives.......strict gun laws and gun control kills people. Hence the Death by guns in Cities and area's with those restrictive laws.
 
Protecting the 2A is corrupt? Making sure people have access to the best self defense weapons is Corrupt? As the CDC put forth guns are used millions of times a year in self defense having the best weapons available per the Constitution is a Just and Enlightened belief system.

What is corrupt is a belief system that wants to leave the innocent defenseless and at the mercy of the Criminal element, a belief system that wants to strip away the Rights of the people to bear arms. Corrupt at the core.

The NRA saves lives.......strict gun laws and gun control kills people. Hence the Death by guns in Cities and area's with those restrictive laws.
Exactly what I was saying... that belief is a total load of crap ! The 2nd amendment has been bastardized beyond belief.
 
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What you don't seem to understand is that to many if their is not a higher power, a greater meaning to life or existence then their moral compass is Might makes right. Let the strongest rule and control! Weed out the weak and infirm to better the human race and it's genetic line.

You seem to not understand that a small portion of society are born on the Dark Triad scale and that many others are also born on the dark empathy scale as well.

You seem to want to dismiss the part that religion has played in developing a civilized society. Religion probably has little effect on those with the Dark Triad personality but it has and does have a effect on those with moderate to medium dark empathy personality traits.

Sort of ironic that teachers want to guide the moral compass of students and think they can have as much effect as the dogma of religion.

There are large groups of people born daily who are genetically hardwired not to fill empathy/sympathy for those who are not closely associated to their person. Religion has played a large part in making sure they develop a moral code and can become productive citizens.

Strip away Religion and make it a fable and take away the consequences of said religion and then Logically why would those in power or those who can dominate adhere to any of the Norms and Mores of western society.

If there is no soul and nothing after death to many....then why would they care for the suffering or plight of the meek and weak if it benefited theirs and them? If a dark black abyss is the outcome for all and life is basically meaningless and the only reward is what you can get here on this earth then taking and doing what you want to fulfill what ever desires a person wants no matter how disgusting or vile is the only mean to life.

There is a reason that religion and dogma came into being at the dawn of civilizatin and has carried forward. Take it away and one of the Pillars has been destroyed.

That is always the mistake of the atheist Lefty....they somehow think that religion is the problem and that people will naturally want to work in harmony for the greater good and for society. When in fact a huge portion of the population operates with a drive to fulfill only their wants and needs.
Yeah we need to weed out all those 8, 9 and 10 year olds to better the human race you are just sick to type that on this forum or anywhere else.
 
NO you are sick and vile and your post shows this in great detail the Proof is that you some how read what I posted and your mind and mental make up went straight to Killing Children to better the human race.. that clearly shows your baseline answer to this situation is to identify and kill a person with a certain personality trait as a legit means of fixing the issue .... what is wrong with you?

I never said in my post we need to weed out/Kill anyone to better the human race to fix the problem. How you came to that conclusion is clearly a reflection of your own personality and how it operates.

I challenge you to explain how you could read what I posted and infer I was advocating profiling children or adults and eliminating them?

I specifically pointed out that religion and Dogma kept those personality traits in a large potion of our population in check and made them productive and appropriate citizens. But when you strip away and devalue Religion, a higher power, the higher reason for existence then those People with those traits become unbound and become a danger to others and that manifest into a societal problem do to the lack of developing a moral and ethical foundation to control their basic instincts and desires.

My point was clear to anyone with a basic reading comprehension....Take away the social aspect of Religion and Dogma and the outcome is that monsters arise and they harm others because they have no remorse or respect for the life of others. They clearly become human Animals and behave that way in that they only desire for their wants and needs to be met and they are driven only to fulfill their needs and desires no matter the pain and suffering they inflect on others.

I again challenge you to explain why you read my plea for Religion and Dogma to again be a Controlling force in helping people with certain Hardwired personality traits to accept and follow a socially acceptable moral code. And came away with a twisted and sick bent Idea that I wanted to harm children...that is all on YOU and your twisted mental make up.

Please seek help. Because if you read my detailed explanation of personality traits and how Religion and Dogma has kept those personality traits under control since the dawn of civilization and you came away with your idea that is 100% on you. I didn't even hint at that.
 
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