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3Rfan

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How do they figure slugging percentage? I assumed you have to have an extra base hit of some kind to even have a slugging percentage but looking at the stats on the Cards site it shows people with NO extra base hits having a slugging percentage. M.Gonzalez has 1 AB, 1 hit, no extra base hits, but has a slugging percentage of 1000 and an OPS of 2000.
 
Short and simple

Single =1
Double =2
Triple = 3
HR=4

Add those together divide by at bats(not plate appearances.....AB)
 
Short and simple

Single =1
Double =2
Triple = 3
HR=4

Add those together divide by at bats(not plate appearances.....AB)
Why is a single even considered when talking about 'slugging'? That's one crazy stat.
 
How do they figure slugging percentage? I assumed you have to have an extra base hit of some kind to even have a slugging percentage but looking at the stats on the Cards site it shows people with NO extra base hits having a slugging percentage. M.Gonzalez has 1 AB, 1 hit, no extra base hits, but has a slugging percentage of 1000 and an OPS of 2000.
It's just a horribly named stat. Sluggers are HR hitters not singles guys.
 
Because a single is a hit
A single has NOTHING to do with SLUGGING! Hitting doubles in the gap, triples if you can run, and hitting the ball out of the park is slugging. Singles show up in BA and OBP. BTW if you reach base on a error does that count for your OBP? Seems to me that's pretty generous stat too. If a pitcher can't throw strikes, hits you, or a fielder can't make a play you get credit on your stats for it? :eek:
 
A single has NOTHING to do with SLUGGING! Hitting doubles in the gap, triples if you can run, and hitting the ball out of the park is slugging. Singles show up in BA and OBP. BTW if you reach base on a error does that count for your OBP? Seems to me that's pretty generous stat too. If a pitcher can't throw strikes, hits you, or a fielder can't make a play you get credit on your stats for it? :eek:
OBP straight from MLB.com:

OBP refers to how frequently a batter reaches base per plate appearance. Times on base include hits, walks and hit-by-pitches, but do not include errors, times reached on a fielder's choice or a dropped third strike. (Separately, sacrifice bunts are removed from the equation entirely, because it is rarely a hitter's decision to sacrifice himself, but rather a manager's choice as part of an in-game strategy.)
 
OBP straight from MLB.com:

OBP refers to how frequently a batter reaches base per plate appearance. Times on base include hits, walks and hit-by-pitches, but do not include errors, times reached on a fielder's choice or a dropped third strike. (Separately, sacrifice bunts are removed from the equation entirely, because it is rarely a hitter's decision to sacrifice himself, but rather a manager's choice as part of an in-game strategy.)
I was hoping errors didn't count.
 
A single has NOTHING to do with SLUGGING! Hitting doubles in the gap, triples if you can run, and hitting the ball out of the park is slugging. Singles show up in BA and OBP. BTW if you reach base on a error does that count for your OBP? Seems to me that's pretty generous stat too. If a pitcher can't throw strikes, hits you, or a fielder can't make a play you get credit on your stats for it? :eek:
they are double counted intentionally.

All hits are - a 2b, a 3b, and a hr are all times on base just like a single.
 
A single has NOTHING to do with SLUGGING!
Any RH'er that's ever slugged a single halfway up the Monster disagrees. So does Mark McGwire. How many long singles did you see him hit in a Cardinals uniform?
 
No need to challenge him. 3R would argue with a fence post. Probably why I dig him so much! Lol.
You people have lost your mind if you think a guy that has 1 at bat with 1 single should have a stat called 'slugging percentage' rated at 1000 and an OPS of 2000. THAT is NOT 'slugging' I don't care what you say! If it's for total bases that's what it should be called!
 
If a guy hits a ton of singles compared to doubles and triples he has a lower slugging percentage. Seems pretty easy to understand....
 
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You people have lost your mind if you think a guy that has 1 at bat with 1 single should have a stat called 'slugging percentage' rated at 1000 and an OPS of 2000. THAT is NOT 'slugging' I don't care what you say! If it's for total bases that's what it should be called!
What if that one hit in one AB was a single off the wall?
 
Shhhhhhhhhhhh, he's on a roll here. Kinda wanna see where this leads.
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All I'm saying is if the stat is for TOTAL BASES then call it that. It has NOTHING to do with who is a slugger and who flips humpback liners over the infield or beats out a ball that doesn't leave the infield. It has the WRONG name period.
 
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All I'm saying is if the stat is for TOTAL BASES then call it that. It has NOTHING to do with who is a slugger and who flips humpback liners over the infield or beats out a ball that doesn't leave the infield. It has the WRONG name period.
You do realize that if a guy hits 100 singles in a season his slugging % won't be very high, right? Thus leading one to infer, he's not a "slugger".
 
You people have lost your mind if you think a guy that has 1 at bat with 1 single should have a stat called 'slugging percentage' rated at 1000 and an OPS of 2000. THAT is NOT 'slugging' I don't care what you say! If it's for total bases that's what it should be called!
Single = 1.000 SLG

Single = 1.000 OBP

OPS = OBP+ SLG

I mean.....what is challenging? If the equation. Was OPS = OBP(WoBA+WRC[+]) ÷ the circumference of the sun during the 3rd Tuesday in November on a leap year......sure, you've got a point
 
Single = 1.000 SLG

Single = 1.000 OBP

OPS = OBP+ SLG

I mean.....what is challenging? If the equation. Was OPS = OBP(WoBA+WRC[+]) ÷ the circumference of the sun during the 3rd Tuesday in November on a leap year......sure, you've got a point
Just change the name of the stat and it would be better.
 
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