So you're the GM or POBO of the Birds...

[Eagles_Ball]

What's your roster/lineup/rotation/bullpen? Lots of pieces right now. Lets assume everyone is healthy (like Reyes and Waino).

Lineup (If Marp and Fowler don't pick it up quickly, adjustments will need to be made...Bader and Wong are on the ready)

1. Marp--2B
2. Pham--CF
3. JMart--1B
4. Ozuna--LF
5. Fowler--RF
6. Dejong--SS
7. Gyorko--3B
8. Molina--C

Bench--Kelly (and he starts every fifith game...or day game after a night game), Garcia, Wong, Bader, and O'Neil

Rotation--CMart, Mikolas, Wacha, Weaver, Flaherty

Bullpen--Gomber and Lyons (lefties)...Brebbia and Gregerson (righties)...Reyes/Norris/Holland (7/8/9)

Obviously playing the musical DL game with Waino, Leone, Cecil et al...but I think the above construction might be the best opportunity to win.

What's yours?

 

[vbsideout]

Pham
Wong
Ozuna
Martinez
DeJong
Gyorko
Fowler/Bader
Molina

Carp on DL until he can throw the ball hard across the diamond. If he is not playing 1st his defense has no spot, You have one liabilty in Martinez at 1st you can't have one at 3rd.

C Marti, Wacha, Mykolis, Weaver, Waino, Faherty

Bullpen is a mess. Norris,Brebbia, Leone, Lyons, Sherrill, Hicks, and Holland
Garcia, Pena, and the Memphis shuttle

 

[3Rfan]

What's your roster/lineup/rotation/bullpen? Lots of pieces right now. Lets assume everyone is healthy (like Reyes and Waino).

Lineup (If Marp and Fowler don't pick it up quickly, adjustments will need to be made...Bader and Wong are on the ready)

1. Marp--2B
2. Pham--CF
3. JMart--1B
4. Ozuna--LF
5. Fowler--RF
6. Dejong--SS
7. Gyorko--3B
8. Molina--C

Bench--Kelly (and he starts every fifith game...or day game after a night game), Garcia, Wong, Bader, and O'Neil

Rotation--CMart, Mikolas, Wacha, Weaver, Flaherty

Bullpen--Gomber and Lyons (lefties)...Brebbia and Gregerson (righties)...Reyes/Norris/Holland (7/8/9)

Obviously playing the musical DL game with Waino, Leone, Cecil et al...but I think the above construction might be the best opportunity to win.

What's yours?

Have you checked on Kelly's numbers in Memphis? Dude still ain't hitting and he has thrown out 2 of 10 base stealers. Bomber up, Flaherty down.

 

[Sam_Tarley]

Who on your bench can play first base in the 8th and 9th innings? You boys are hurting.

The murder at BPV is a sign of where this team is headed. 8-12 vs any team not named Reds.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Pham
Wong
Ozuna
Martinez
DeJong
Gyorko
Fowler/Bader
Molina

Carp on DL until he can throw the ball hard across the diamond. If he is not playing 1st his defense has no spot, You have one liabilty in Martinez at 1st you can't have one at 3rd.

C Marti, Wacha, Mykolis, Weaver, Waino, Faherty

Bullpen is a mess. Norris,Brebbia, Leone, Lyons, Sherrill, Hicks, and Holland
Garcia, Pena, and the Memphis shuttle

Going six man rotation? Where's Reyes fit? I seriously, seriously wonder what Brebbia has to do to get a spot on the 25-man. He's got 50 MLB innings and a WHIP of around .8. That guy shouldn’t have to wonder about a roster spot.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Have you checked on Kelly's numbers in Memphis? Dude still ain't hitting and he has thrown out 2 of 10 base stealers. Bomber up, Flaherty down.

I have. But they need to see what they’ve got in him at the major league level, and Yadi needs the days off.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Who on your bench can play first base in the 8th and 9th innings? You boys are hurting.

The murder at BPV is a sign of where this team is headed. 8-12 vs any team not named Reds.

JMart needs to play every inning. He’s rough, but he’s also one of the two best bats on the team. You don’t double switch those guys out. No matter what Mr Little League thinks.

Thankfully they’ve got a bunch of games coming up against the ChiSox, Twins, and Padres. They ain’t the Reds, but they’re close!

 

[vbsideout]

Going six man rotation? Where's Reyes fit? I seriously, seriously wonder what Brebbia has to do to get a spot on the 25-man. He's got 50 MLB innings and a WHIP of around .8. That guy shouldn’t have to wonder about a roster spot.

Reyes will help steady the bullpen when he is ready. As much as MM likes to use his pen Reyes can get his 100 innings there. Martinez never loses a start. As long as Mykolis continues to pitch like he has he stays on schedule, then you manipulate Weaver, Wacha and Flaherty as need be. I guess at some point they will have to add Waino to the mix..

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Reyes will help steady the bullpen when he is ready. As much as MM likes to use his pen Reyes can get his 100 innings there. Martinez never loses a start. As long as Mykolis continues to pitch like he has he stays on schedule, then you manipulate Weaver, Wacha and Flaherty as need be. I guess at some point they will have to add Waino to the mix..

I feel like with Waino, he's "injured" until on of the other SP's gets hurt or starts sucking. At this point, if you count Flaherty, Reyes, and Gomber you could probably make an argument that Waino is about your 8th best SP. Hard to keep running him back out every fifth day.

 

[vbsideout]

I feel like with Waino, he's "injured" until on of the other SP's gets hurt or starts sucking. At this point, if you count Flaherty, Reyes, and Gomber you could probably make an argument that Waino is about your 8th best SP. Hard to keep running him back out every fifth day.

$19 million reasons MO will continue to activate him

 

[Eagles_Ball]

$19 million reasons MO will continue to activate him

Just gotta love that side of pro sports. A SP with a WHIP of 1.5 over his last 300+ innings...Should we take him out of the rotation? Is he making league min? Nah, $19M. Oh, ok. Keep running him out there.

 

[3Rfan]

I feel like with Waino, he's "injured" until on of the other SP's gets hurt or starts sucking. At this point, if you count Flaherty, Reyes, and Gomber you could probably make an argument that Waino is about your 8th best SP. Hard to keep running him back out every fifth day.

I don't see what you guys do in Flaherty I guess. He 'looks' the part and maybe his stats say something I don't see, but I don't recall him doing too well last season when he came up and he didn't do anything impressive in his recent start. certainly not enough to get to stay.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

I don't see what you guys do in Flaherty I guess. He 'looks' the part and maybe his stats say something I don't see, but I don't recall him doing too well last season when he came up and he didn't do anything impressive in his recent start. certainly not enough to get to stay.

I'd say you're right about last season's starts. Nothing too crazy impressive. He's been off the charts good in the minors and spring training this year. His start this season he was the victim of some BRUTAL defense. His upside is far better than the current (and last 300+ innings) version of Waino. If he doesn't pan out after a handful of starts, send him back down and get him the seasoning he needs. That's my take.

 

[3Rfan]

I'd say you're right about last season's starts. Nothing too crazy impressive. He's been off the charts good in the minors and spring training this year. His start this season he was the victim of some BRUTAL defense. His upside is far better than the current (and last 300+ innings) version of Waino. If he doesn't pan out after a handful of starts, send him back down and get him the seasoning he needs. That's my take.

A lot of guys are good in the minors, the hitters are there for a reason too. I hope he works out some day but running him up and down one start at a time ain't the way find out. Kelley has never been a hitter as far as I can tell and throwing out 20% of base stealers in the minors ain't very impressive either.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

A lot of guys are good in the minors, the hitters are there for a reason too. I hope he works out some day but running him up and down one start at a time ain't the way find out. Kelley has never been a hitter as far as I can tell and throwing out 20% of base stealers in the minors ain't very impressive either.

And if you know baseball, you realize Flaherty is, at the very least, going to be a 4/5 SP. All you have to do is watch. Not many guys come in and tear it up right off the bat. Those are the special (see Reyes) ones. But you can watch Waino and Flaherty throw about 10 pitches each and tell pretty quickly which one gives you the best chance to win.

I get what you're saying about Kelley. And don't really disagree. But Yadi needs time off. The numbers don't say it. He says he doesn't. And I may be wrong. But it's eventually going to catch up to him. If Kelley busts, no biggie. If he doesn't, you either have your next catcher or a nice trade piece.

 

[3Rfan]

And if you know baseball, you realize Flaherty is, at the very least, going to be a 4/5 SP. All you have to do is watch. Not many guys come in and tear it up right off the bat. Those are the special (see Reyes) ones. But you can watch Waino and Flaherty throw about 10 pitches each and tell pretty quickly which one gives you the best chance to win.

I get what you're saying about Kelley. And don't really disagree. But Yadi needs time off. The numbers don't say it. He says he doesn't. And I may be wrong. But it's eventually going to catch up to him. If Kelley busts, no biggie. If he doesn't, you either have your next catcher or a nice trade piece.

I can't figure who will want him if he can't cut it in the Birds organization. They have a backup catcher now that will never be their guy and every 5th game ain't gonna keep a guy sharp enough either way. I have no problem if they want to bring him for a backup because I think next dude inline is someone they think WILL be next man up behind the plate and he does need some time while Yadi is still under contract and playing well.

 

[Neutron Monster]

I can't figure who will want him if he can't cut it in the Birds organization. They have a backup catcher now that will never be their guy and every 5th game ain't gonna keep a guy sharp enough either way. I have no problem if they want to bring him for a backup because I think next dude inline is someone they think WILL be next man up behind the plate and he does need some time while Yadi is still under contract and playing well.

A cost controlled Top 100 prospect? Lots of teams. Kelly is a really valuable asset.

 

[3Rfan]

A cost controlled Top 100 prospect? Lots of teams. Kelly is a really valuable asset.

A 'prospect' is all he's been so far. If he can't hit or throw out runners he ain't making much money in the bigs, here or anywhere else.

 

[Neutron Monster]

A 'prospect' is all he's been so far. If he can't hit or throw out runners he ain't making much money in the bigs, here or anywhere else.

It's 2018, prospects are worth a lot. We're talking about a guy playing the hardest field position.

 

[3Rfan]

It's 2018, prospects are worth a lot. We're talking about a guy playing the hardest field position.

Maybe he'll a big time catcher someday but if he waits for it to be in St.Louis he may have a short career because he already be old when get to be a starter.

 

[wccards21]

I don't see what you guys do in Flaherty I guess. He 'looks' the part and maybe his stats say something I don't see, but I don't recall him doing too well last season when he came up and he didn't do anything impressive in his recent start. certainly not enough to get to stay.

I hope you didn't watch his game today.

He helped my fantasy team get 25 points

 

[Duck_walk]

Yes and Weaver was enfuego his first time thru the league also. Lets give the young guys some time before we enshrine them.

 

[3Rfan]

I hope you didn't watch his game today.

He helped my fantasy team get 25 points

That's the Flaherty we hoped to see, not the one we had seen in the bigs. Then Hicks came in throw some HIGH octane stuff and the eyes of the guys in the dugout were about to pop out of their head. Once they talked him down a notch his slider was very effective. Sad to see the dude extend his on base streak on a weak swing strikeout that got away.

 

[wccards21]

That's the Flaherty we hoped to see, not the one we had seen in the bigs. Then Hicks came in throw some HIGH octane stuff and the eyes of the guys in the dugout were about to pop out of their head. Once they talked him down a notch his slider was very effective. Sad to see the dude extend his on base streak on a weak swing strikeout that got away.

Doesn't count. On base streak is over

105 is cool. Strikes are better. I also can't figure out how a guy can throw so hard and strike out so few

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Doesn't count. On base streak is over

105 is cool. Strikes are better. I also can't figure out how a guy can throw so hard and strike out so few

That is a head-scratcher for me too a little. Although, he doesn’t really seem to have another pitch. Throws a slider I suppose, but it really isn’t all that great. I think guys just gear up knowing that heat is what they’re getting. As much as his fastball moves and darts, he’d be virtually unhittable if he had something in the mid to high 80s he could throw. I say just go all little league, five finger back in your palm, and let it go. Lol

 

[3Rfan]

That is a head-scratcher for me too a little. Although, he doesn’t really seem to have another pitch. Throws a slider I suppose, but it really isn’t all that great. I think guys just gear up knowing that heat is what they’re getting. As much as his fastball moves and darts, he’d be virtually unhittable if he had something in the mid to high 80s he could throw. I say just go all little league, five finger back in your palm, and let it go. Lol

Apparently you didn't seethe slider he threw after the mound hoist and all high octane stuff. Dude was way out in front and had no clue where that ball went. Looks to me like he needs to mix it a little more. Easy for me to say when I couldn't even begin to foul off a 100mph pitch.