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Sandy Hook parents can sue Remington

I know your wet dream is that this will push gunmakers into bankruptcy and then we'll all get to live in your socialist utopia where people kill each other with knives instead of guns, but the reality of this is it will just change the way they advertise.
 
I know your wet dream is that this will push gunmakers into bankruptcy and then we'll all get to live in your socialist utopia where people kill each other with knives instead of guns, but the reality of this is it will just change the way they advertise.

So let me ask just so I am on the same page.

Did Remington advertise their Bushmaster as a great weapon to commit murder or some other crime? If that is the case, they should be held accountable. My guess is this didn't happen.

But, for the sake of argument, why doesn't Dodge get sued for the way they advertise the Hellcat? 900 horse, burning rubber, 160 mph? Are they not enticing people to break the law and behave in a reckless manner?

McDonalds have facilitated a lot of people to become obese, should they be held accountable?

At what point should companies be held accountable when the customer misuses the product sold?
 
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So let me ask just so I am on the same page.

Did Remington advertise their Bushmaster as a great weapon to commit murder or some other crime? If that is the case, they should be held accountable. My guess is this didn't happen.

But, for the sake of argument, why doesn't Dodge get sued for the way they advertise the Hellcat? 900 horse, burning rubber, 160 mph? Are they not enticing people to break the law and behave in a reckless manner?

McDonalds have facilitated a lot of people to become obese, should they be held accountable?

At what point should companies be held accountable when the customer misuses the product sold?

Those are all solid points and I see this going to the ACTUAL Supreme Court and they will strike it down. I have less than zero concern with Connecticut trying to circumvent the Constitution with left wing ideology.
 
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Not familiar with the Hellcat, but one possibility is that no one ever slaughtered a class full of first graders with one. And the Hellcat isn't designed to kill people but the weapon is.
 
Not familiar with the Hellcat, but one possibility is that no one ever slaughtered a class full of first graders with one. And the Hellcat isn't designed to kill people but the weapon is.

The letter of the ruling speaks to how these tools are marketed.

Is speeding a law violation? Does driving too fast (you know, not using the tool the way it was intended to be used) occasionally cause death and destruction in the form of car crashes?

If that is true, why are they not going after car manufacturers for marketing their products in such a way that entices people to potentially use the tool in the wrong way?

That is 100% an apples to apples comparison.
 
If Dodge markets their vehicle as a tool to kill your enemies I will sue them myself.
 
If Dodge markets their vehicle as a tool to kill your enemies I will sue them myself.

That's not the point and you know it.

Dodge (and every other car manufacturer) markets their vehicles as being fast, having X amount of horsepower, 0 to 60 in X seconds. I dont participate in NASCAR, why does that matter if they're not trying to entice people to go faster than the posted speed limit and BREAK THE LAW with their product.

When people drive recklessly, do other people sometimes die? I blame the car manufacturers for enticing people to drive faster than they should with their advertising.

According to the CDC approximately 39,000 people died due to motor vehicle accidents in 2016...damn those car advertisements.
 
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Typical repub reasoning, dems don't abort a fetus, wait until they are sixth graders and you will defend the guns used to kill them.
 
Typical repub reasoning, dems don't abort a fetus, wait until they are sixth graders and you will defend the guns used to kill them.

The gun doesnt kill them, the person wielding it does. No different than if a psycho were to drive a truck through a school playground or plant explosives or something.

The reality is a gun has NEVER killed anyone without a person pulling the trigger.
 
Typical repub reasoning, dems don't abort a fetus, wait until they are sixth graders and you will defend the guns used to kill them.

Using a tool to kill a sixth grader is ILLEGAL, and dems and pubs alike believe it should be.

Using a tool to kill an unborn baby is LEGAL, only the dems think it should be.

See any difference?
 
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Suicide attempts are successful at a much higher rate when a gun is in the home.

In countries with strict gun control the rate of suicide is approximately the same as here. Banning guns wouldn't affect that at all.
 
In countries with strict gun control the rate of suicide is approximately the same as here. Banning guns wouldn't affect that at all.

You cant possibly know that there would be no change. Cultures are different.

Apples/Oranges.
 
You cant possibly know that there would be no change. Cultures are different.

Little off the subject of guns, but since you brought it up I will ask.

If a persons life is so horrible, if they are in terrible pain or suffering from a terminal illness and want to die, who are we to remove the easiest way for them to accomplish this?

If I as an adult think I can end an innocent babies life in the womb, why would I try to keep a grown adult from ending their life?
 
Little off the subject of guns, but since you brought it up I will ask.

If a persons life is so horrible, if they are in terrible pain or suffering from a terminal illness and want to die, who are we to remove the easiest way for them to accomplish this?

If I as an adult think I can end an innocent babies life in the womb, why would I try to keep a grown adult from ending their life?

My concerns are more about physically healthy teens or depressed Americans of all ages who have a moment of despair and a gun handy.
 
The gun doesnt kill them, the person wielding it does. No different than if a psycho were to drive a truck through a school playground or plant explosives or something.

The reality is a gun has NEVER killed anyone without a person pulling the trigger.
You had to know when turned that that just so. How many accidental shootings have killed people who they drop the gun or fell from a tree stand. I'd say if this lawsuit holds up in court you could see lawsuits for car makers advertising how fast their cars will go. :rolleyes:
 
You cant possibly know that there would be no change. Cultures are different.

Apples/Oranges.

No...the statistics show that there is little to no change. There are countries in which it is extremely hard, if not impossible, to get a gun, the suicide rate doesnt change, they just pick a different method of killing themselves.
 
Like I said:

Suicide attempts are successful at a much higher rate when a gun is in the home.

Why is it a major concern?

 
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