Realistic Solutions For Gun Violence

[Neutron Monster]

Agreed. If law abiding gun owners could trust the powers of law makers to make sensible reform...but that's a "pie in the sky".
I've attended Gun Shows here in good ole KC. When I see some the people at the show's, I relate to Elite Lib's that want to take my gun..;lol

You know how sensible reform gets made? When people with fair objections sit down at the table.

Instead, we have the current world, where the nuts would rather people continue keep dying over and over.

 

[millerbleach]

#3 is the biggest logical fail in the entire gun debate. The #1 way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to never let him have a gun in the first place.

This is why our murder rate is so much higher than other developed countries. We pretend you have to solve problems on the back end instead of on the front end.

The question is the best way to stop a bad guy WITH a gun Not whether we should let bad guys have guns. What do YOU do if a bad guy HAS a gun?

 

[BlizzardX]

You know how sensible reform gets made? When people with fair objections sit down at the table.

Instead, we have the current world, where the nuts would rather people continue keep dying over and over.

I posted this earlier. IMO, the only way to reduce gun violence is mandatory registration and mandatory gun buy backs and massive confiscation. Our lame duck president want's this, and is growing bolder as more and more shootings occur. I think anything short of this will not cut into the gun fatality statistics. Since Missouri repealed a gun control statute gun crimes have increased and there is no denying that. Any politician that comes out publicly with radical gun reform in this part of the country won't get elected.Presidential hopefuls know better than to lay out specific plans.
I am a card carrying NAGR member and a NRA member, and I have donated for over 15 years to the lobbyist that preserve our 2nd amendent rights. I want to keep my guns to shoot the bad guys that might invade my home and to protect my family.
My elderly parent's have a CAC and grandma is packing heat too. I want to protect that right.

 

[Skeeter_McCormack]

I posted this earlier. IMO, the only way to reduce gun violence is mandatory registration and mandatory gun buy backs and massive confiscation. Our lame duck president want's this, and is growing bolder as more and more shootings occur. I think anything short of this will not cut into the gun fatality statistics. Since Missouri repealed a gun control statute gun crimes have increased and there is no denying that. Any politician that comes out publicly with radical gun reform in this part of the country won't get elected.Presidential hopefuls know better than to lay out specific plans.
I am a card carrying NAGR member and a NRA member, and I have donated for over 15 years to the lobbyist that preserve our 2nd amendent rights. I want to keep my guns to shoot the bad guys that might invade my home and to protect my family.

If you're such a bad shot that you need a semi-auto or automatic weapon to protect your family, frankly you don't deserve guns.

One shot, one kill.

 

[BlizzardX]

If you're such a bad shot that you need a semi-auto or automatic weapon to protect your family, frankly you don't deserve guns.

One shot, one kill.

You're late. No comment.

 

[Skeeter_McCormack]

You're late. No comment.

Fortunately I don't need a comment.

 

[vbsideout]

As a nation I think we have proved the answer is more guns. We have fewer deaths by gun than most civilized countries and the most guns. Oh wait something is wrong with this statement. Nevermind

 

[wcfanfourever]

As a nation I think we have proved the answer is more guns. We have fewer deaths by gun than most civilized countries and the most guns. Oh wait something is wrong with this statement. Nevermind

Hold on a minute, the United States isn't even close to the top of the list of the countries with gun violence

Just wait until the new trend with gangs using hand grenades moves north of the border

I guess its all how you liberals want to interpret the word "civilized"

 

[Neutron Monster]

Hold on a minute, the United States isn't even close to the top of the list of the countries with gun violence

Just wait until the new trend with gangs using hand grenades moves north of the border

I guess its all how you liberals want to interpret the word "civilized"

If your benchmark for violence includes Syria, Iraq, and other third world countries, then sure.

If the benchmark is 1st world countries, yes, we are at/near the top. This is a much more logical comparator group. The US is a lot more like the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, or Switzerland than it is like Colombia or Libya.

There is a heavy tie between lower crime and higher GDP.

 

[wcfanfourever]

If your benchmark for violence includes Syria, Iraq, and other third world countries, then sure.

If the benchmark is 1st world countries, yes, we are at/near the top. This is a much more logical comparator group. The US is a lot more like the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, or Switzerland than it is like Colombia or Libya.

There is a heavy tie between lower crime and higher GDP.

but we are unlike the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, and Switzerland because we have a very large Hispanic and African populations with terribly high violence in their cultures

Compare the violence rate among whites in the USA to the rest of the world and see what you get

 

[Neutron Monster]

but we are unlike the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, and Switzerland because we have a very large Hispanic and African populations with terribly high violence in their cultures

Compare the violence rate among whites in the USA to the rest of the world and see what you get

Our white murder rate is still higher than all of those countries (well, white/Asian, but you get what I mean)

Rate of violence among Hispanic Americans isn't all that high when you adjust for the age of the population. Not a lot of 60 year olds of any race committing violent crimes.

There's no question that gun violence is most prevalent in poor AA communities, which is partly why AA voters are much more supportive of gun control. Guns are, in general, not popular among non-whites.

 

[vbsideout]

I was just making an arsehole comment because I am an arsehole

 

[BlizzardX]

The only meaningful way to get reduce gun violence is to gradually chip away the 2nd Amendment until it becomes a privilege to own a gun. Once all the guns of law-abiding citizens have been purchased by the government, then gun ownership becomes a privilege that can only be exercised by those who can convince the government to give them a permit to own a gun. In reality, this translates into guns for the wealthy and the politically connected, but sticks, rocks, and rakes for the peasants who were forced to give up their guns.