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Random Observations from Webb City/Rockhurst

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1. AJ Taylor (#4 - RB) was as good (if not better) than advertised.

2. That said, for a physical running back who was easily getting 5-6 yards a carry and required 5 men to bring him down, Rockhurst had times when they would take to the air or not rely on him in big moments. Not sure if carries were purposefully limited (early season, game that doesn't really matter, etc) or what, but I would have gone to my bell cow more.

3. Wish I had counted how many times Webb City met Taylor or the QB in the backfield 1 on 1 only to have a broken arm tackle.

4. Rockhurst starting QB was gone after 1st series. Injury? Coach's decision?

5. Webb City tipped a lot of passed balls on defense.

6. Roderique & staff were on the officials (justifiably so) quite a bit through the first half. A couple examples: Onside kick looked like it was touched early. The hit on the QB out of bounds on the Rockhurst sideline looked like the Webb defender started his tackle in bounds.

7. Burroughs / VanLue is definitely the more physical backfield for Webb City. To keep VanLue fresh on D though, I imagine Roderique will stick with Potts as much as possible.

8. Webb City had a few nice passing plays (TD on 4th down was one), but in weeks 1 & 2 there have been several dropped balls that were catchable.

9. It's nice with the referee having a microphone.

10. Watching Kolesan Crane on kickoff coverage is probably my favorite part of Friday nights.

11. Rockhurst had small-ish, but loud, crowd. Made for a fun environment.

12. Right before the game started, I saw 3 Rockhurst students walk into the stadium. One said to the others: "Jesus Christ". Not sure what he meant. But I laughed.

13. Nice win for Webb City. Also nice to see that the coaches will have a good deal of coaching to do going forward. Translation: Webb City didn't look sharp tonight, but still had a comfortable "Webb City" win.
 
Personally i though Webb played outstanding.

My random observations: HUGE crowd for Webb. Filled the home grandstand (seats 5,500) and half of the visiting stands which seats about 1500 plus a hundred or so standing around the track.

Rockhurst did not travel well at all. Kinda suprised me .

#4 (Taylor) for rockhurst might be the best running back i have seen in person. He probably averaged 3 yards a carry.....after contact!

For webb #1, 21, and 32 were freaks on defense. (Ik their names but i dont wanna mention individuals)

Play calling by coach rod was awesome!

#40 for Webb got pretty limited carries and that sorta caught me by suprise.

And finally Tyson played unbelievable. For a kid his size he runs like a man on a mission and threw the ball very well!

My favorite play of the game was webbs second td. 4th and 4 and they roll out to the short side and throw a slant on what looked like a run/ pass option play and the wr ran it in from 28 yards. Pitt state runs that play alot now so does Auburn. First time ive seen it from wc

Rockhurst didnt impress me honestly outside of #4. Id guess he had 80% of their yardage.

Great win and both sides of the ball played awesome as far as im concerened
 
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Honestly webb missed a couple of opportunities or it would have been a turbo clock. Next week will be just as hard if not harder. Har-ber scored like 22 points on Tulsa union in one half of play Thursday in their scrimmage. It will be a BIG challenge again
 
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Last year Webb's lines were good sized by Webb's standards and they were still outsized vs Rock. This year, Webb's lines are smaller as a whole. I know Webb has been outsized many times through the years while still winning the battle at the line of scrimmage. Knowing that, I was still amazed again tonight as I sized up the two huddles standing across the ball from each other. Webb looked like an average HS team standing next to a small college team. David vs Goliath. I am proud of our boys (and coaches). They are not intimidated, they are all heart and find a way to compete and win.

Go Cardinals!!
 
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Great to see I'm not alone in the praise for Taylor. He's a stud.

Har-Ber has a new stadium on their campus. I may just have to sneak up there next week after hearing what the 'scout' had to say. They haven't been as good as they were against Webb the last time they played two years ago, and last year they were simply bad. However, as a whole I have been very impressed with the level of football being played down here.
 
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My random thoughts...WEBB played very very well. TyRod showed what a leader does when needed, throwing well but running like a beast in a 170 lb body. Still dont get the squib kicks weve done the last few years. When kicking it away we have no problems why give the ball at half field???? I know I know they have a stud returning. I think they fumbled/mishandled on atleast 2 if not three deep kicks. I agree we couldve turboed but with that their starting QB went out after their first possession marching down the field for a TD, so who knows? I felt Burroughs ran harder than last week and think without doubt Vanlue showed hes the man when needed. Both lines looked outmatched but showed that WEBB CITY heart and at times dominated. BUT I have questions for all the coaches out there, Why do I see so many teams going for 4th downs so early in games against us? Sev is said to be one of the best in MO, first quarter 4th and 3 down only 14-7 from the 46 and he goes for it giving WEBB a short field for their third score. WHY? And of course in the 4th down 3 scores they punt, we all just looked at each other and said wth, games over white flag has been waved.
 
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I didn't expect to see 28 pts in the first quarter or 49 sitting on the board at the end!

I agree with Peat here, when they went for it in 4th everyone sitting with us said, "This is why teams get beat!" Stick with the game plan!

You are looking at 2 big plays here on a blown coverage in the first quarter and a huge missed tackle on #4 who proved he is a beast and can scoot when he when down the sideline, or it's seriously lopsided!

2 teams in the area do their own thing and stay within the system! WC and Lamar and look at the success! You can practice against the option but you cannot reproduce the speed at which it happens and nobody practices or know how to defend the run for a whole game! It wears on teams!
 
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#4 had speed? UNDERSTATMENT. The pass he caught down the sideline from our view point I thought the defender in pursuit would light him up. Next thing we see is all the defenders from the middle angling and then the rocket appeared right down the line, Kid could scoot.

Doesn't it seem like alot of coaches go for very early 4th downs in bad spots against us? Seems like Willard and Nixa both did last year. Seems like coaches just say " we're going to show them who we are" and then deflate their teams fire by giving WEBB a short field and easier scoring opportunity. Heck I love it just don't understand it.
 
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wc3peat said:
Doesn't it seem like alot of coaches go for very early 4th downs in bad spots against us? Seems like Willard and Nixa both did last year. Seems like coaches just say " we're going to show them who we are" and then deflate their teams fire by giving WEBB a short field and easier scoring opportunity. Heck I love it just don't understand it.
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Maybe, just maybe they are thinking, I need to try and keep the ball, because if I punt I will not see it again until after they score. I doubt very seriously that they are thinking, "we're going to show them who we are".

That being said I was shocked to see Rock go for it inside their territory, especially that early.
 
Maybe I don't know but WEBB scored they scored WEBB. scored and then they went for it on 4th and WEBB scored again. I thought big moment of the game.
 
The Hawklets conditioning was way below average. If they get into a dogfight I see it going the other teams way. Webb dropped two picks that were right in the bread basket so might have been even worse. Taylor did have 125+ yards but it took 28 carries to accumulate that. Every game I see I get even more impressed with our two defensive tackles. 5'11 maybe 220 and 5'10 190 and they can hold their own. Major props to them 61 and 66 I believe. Rockhurst may have had something to prove from last year but them came into the stadium at both halves very down and not really into it. All except their all-everything RB. If they give it to him 45 times a game they may have something there.
 
Didn't every one of Webbs running backs have better yards per carry than #4????

Sometimes I don't think we give our kids enough credit
 
Yes, TRod had 176 or around that. Thier QB had a separated shoulder. An Arkansas recruit for baseball so hopefully it isn't a long recovery.
 
wcfanfourever said:
Didn't every one of Webbs running backs have better yards per carry than #4????

Sometimes I don't think we give our kids enough credit
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Not true FANFOR I said preseason I thought we would have possibly the best backfield in the state. Still think with Vanlue, I know he's needed at LBer, but with him we could have. WEBBs rbs always have great ypc just don't get as many touches as most schools running backs. With that they don't run against WEBBs D or Smittys schemes either......
 
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Yes, TRod had 176 or around that. Thier QB had a separated shoulder. An Arkansas recruit for baseball so hopefully it isn't a long recovery.
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That's sucks, figured it was shoulder as he was walking around fine. Sorry I would make mine hang them up. Already got s scholly to a great university in another sport, why risk it? Best wishes to him on a speedy recovery.
 
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wcfanfourever said:
Didn't every one of Webbs running backs have better yards per carry than #4????

Sometimes I don't think we give our kids enough credit
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Maybe but WCs running backs had a lot more support than Taylor did for Rock. Taylor might average 15ypc for the year if he ran behind WCs line.
 
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And finally Tyson played unbelievable. For a kid his size he runs like a man on a mission and threw the ball very well!

My favorite play of the game was webbs second td. 4th and 4 and they roll out to the short side and throw a slant on what looked like a run/ pass option play and the wr ran it in from 28 yards. Pitt state runs that play alot now so does Auburn. First time ive seen it from wc
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Tyson is a huge part of Webb's offensive success. He seems to always read the option correctly. When he calls his own number, he has incredible vision. And speed? When he broke into the open on that long run, seriously, did anybody else take a quick survey of the field to see who was going to catch him from behind? (After the play, my buddy said he did the same thing.) For a second, I was sure there would be someone on that Rockhurst defense that would be fast enough to run him down. Obviously not. The young man had a super game.

http://www.ozarkssportszone.com/pages/19837788.php?pid=501460

The run option pass was executed perfectly. The option look froze the db, that gave the wr inside position and two steps and with a perfectly thrown ball, it was 6pts.

Another good paly call was the half back pass that had the Rh D totally fooled. That play could have been 6.
 
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Most class 3 teams bring more fans to away games than Rockhurst did. couldn't have been more than 100 from what it looks like on the webcast. Good thing there were Webb fans sitting in that second set of bleachers or it would have looked like a Saturday afternoon rec game.

Castillo is listed at 6'4 but he looked like a giant out there. Does Rock not have the size this year?

Too bad about the QB, excellent baseball player.

Since webb has now proved their point with Rock, would love to see them play Staley or For O. maybe find some better competition in class 5
 
cr7707 said:
Most class 3 teams bring more fans to away games than Rockhurst did. couldn't have been more than 100 from what it looks like on the webcast. Good thing there were Webb fans sitting in that second set of bleachers or it would have looked like a Saturday afternoon rec game.

Castillo is listed at 6'4 but he looked like a giant out there. Does Rock not have the size this year?

Too bad about the QB, excellent baseball player.

Since webb has now proved their point with Rock, would love to see them play Staley or For O. maybe find some better competition in class 5
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Most Class 3 teams don't travel almost 300 miles round trip for a regular season game.
 
Wildcat98 said:
Most Class 3 teams don't travel almost 300 miles round trip for a regular season game.
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May be true but I would like to know the number last year when WEBB traveled to ROCK how many WEBB fans were there cause there were a bunch. Close to as many WEBB fans as ROCK fans it seemed.
 
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Most class 3 teams bring more fans to away games than Rockhurst did. couldn't have been more than 100 from what it looks like on the webcast. Good thing there were Webb fans sitting in that second set of bleachers or it would have looked like a Saturday afternoon rec game.

Castillo is listed at 6'4 but he looked like a giant out there. Does Rock not have the size this year?

Too bad about the QB, excellent baseball player.

Since webb has now proved their point with Rock, would love to see them play Staley or For O. maybe find some better competition in class 5
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It's looking more and more like Staley may well be the best team in the KC area. I would love to see a Webb/Staley matchup this season but alas it is not going to happen. Kearney has been flying under the radar but not for long...
 
HomeyR said:
It's looking more and more like Staley may well be the best team in the KC area. I would love to see a Webb/Staley matchup this season but alas it is not going to happen. Kearney has been flying under the radar but not for long...
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As a WC fan I pretty much always start with the premise that Kearney is going to be #1 or #2 in the state until proven otherwise. Not to say that Carl Junction isn't a good team but Kearney even through just week 2 looks to be the solid favorite to reach the Semis out of that part of the bracket and I was never buying that they were not top 10.

I think a Staley or Ft Osage match-up vs Webb City would be a great one to see but I don't know that WC could schedule non-conference any more challenging than Rock and Har-Ber.
 
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As a WC fan I pretty much always start with the premise that Kearney is going to be #1 or #2 in the state until proven otherwise. Not to say that Carl Junction isn't a good team but Kearney even through just week 2 looks to be the solid favorite to reach the Semis out of that part of the bracket and I was never buying that they were not top 10.

I think a Staley or Ft Osage match-up vs Webb City would be a great one to see but I don't know that WC could schedule non-conference any more challenging than Rock and Har-Ber.
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Kearney is solid...pretty much a top ten in all classes every year. This year's version looks a bit more capable on offense than last year. Small but lots of speed. Efficient. Difficult to tell until they face a challenge, which might not be until into the playoffs.
 
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