Question for you guys on the west side of the state

[3Rfan]

Do officials over there call intentional fouls for a player grabbing or pushing a player from behind just to stop the clock late in a game?
I rarely see it called around here. They seem to think it has to be trying to hurt someone but that's a different rule, you call a flagrant foul for that. The intentional foul rule was put in to deter teams from pushing or grabbing a player with no attempt to make a play on the ball just to stop the clock. The intention foul gives the offended team 2 shots AND the ball out of bounds so you lose any advantage of getting the ball back after the free throws.

 

[BONE62]

I saw that happen twice in one of Troy's games this weekend on break a ways. I thought it was suppose to be an intentional foul. I think it needs to be called. It doesn't seem like a judgement called to me.

 

[quadzilla200]

If anything I see the refs not even wanting to call a foul at all just to end the game sooner. Seems like you have to have double the contact that you would at any other point in the game to get the whistle.

 

[3Rfan]

They could end the game sooner by calling that and let the team that gets fouled get the ball back too. Surely coaches would figure it out and stop just grabbing or pushing players. It's a rule I don't know why the guys that evaluate them don't tell them to call it. That and carrying the ball instead of dribbling it like you're supposed to.

 

[higglcsports]

I have personally not seen it called as an intentional foul, most refs realize what a player or coach is trying to do

 

[MoSooner69]

I think in most cases they are going to take into account the force of the contact and also what was happening on the court.... I mean if you put a guy into the wall with a push, its one thing. If you simply make contact, even though it was "on purpose" its going to be looked at differently.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I think in most cases they are going to take into account the force of the contact and also what was happening on the court.... I mean if you put a guy into the wall with a push, its one thing. If you simply make contact, even though it was "on purpose" its going to be looked at differently.

This has been 35 years or so (ahem) but i can recall my senior year TRYING to get an intentional called.
We were behind in the Archie tournament and I was just hacking away at the guy coming up the court. No call. Finally had to basically assault him to get a whistle. Then of course it was called intentional.

First loss of the year.

 

[oldroundballer]

This has been 35 years or so (ahem) but i can recall my senior year TRYING to get an intentional called.
We were behind in the Archie tournament and I was just hacking away at the guy coming up the court. No call. Finally had to basically assault him to get a whistle. Then of course it was called intentional.

First loss of the year.

I think this is why most officials go ahead and call the common foul quickly. They don't want a hard foul with a chance of an injury or tempers escalating.

 

[3Rfan]

I think in most cases they are going to take into account the force of the contact and also what was happening on the court.... I mean if you put a guy into the wall with a push, its one thing. If you simply make contact, even though it was "on purpose" its going to be looked at differently.

Thats' a different rule, that is a flagrant foul. The intentional foul rule was put in for the purpose of fouling just to stop the clock and paying a higher price. You don't have to be trying to hurt somebody to call it. They are supposed to call it when a player pushes or grabs a player whose team has the ball while making no play to get the ball at all. It's been a rule for years!

 

[3Rfan]

I think this is why most officials go ahead and call the common foul quickly. They don't want a hard foul with a chance of an injury or tempers escalatingIf they will call have to callout a common foul

 

[3Rfan]

If they would call the push or grab with no play on there ball an intentional foul the team that get s fouled gets 2 shots and the ball. Same as a flagrant foul so the penalty is stiff enough why would it cause them to make the hard foul and maybe get tossed?