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So I heard that a Kansas City area Class 6 school in football, had players that were faking residency and got busted by their district. The district did a door-knock check for residency, and found an address used by three students at one high school. Parents were listed on various bills so as to prove residency. No one lived at the apartment. Okay, not saying this was recruiting, but come on?
 
So I heard that a Kansas City area Class 6 school in football, had players that were faking residency and got busted by their district. The district did a door-knock check for residency, and found an address used by three students at one high school. Parents were listed on various bills so as to prove residency. No one lived at the apartment. Okay, not saying this was recruiting, but come on?

I have said this happens numerous times on this site.
I know it happens in St. Louis, KC and even some traditional powerhouse programs that boarder towns such as Jeff City, Columbia, Joplin and Springfield.
 
I heard some kids get free cookies if they win a game, sometimes rice krispies!!! Not saying its recruiting but cmon man!
 
So I heard that a Kansas City area Class 6 school in football, had players that were faking residency and got busted by their district. The district did a door-knock check for residency, and found an address used by three students at one high school. Parents were listed on various bills so as to prove residency. No one lived at the apartment. Okay, not saying this was recruiting, but come on?
Report it to mshsaa or share the info here
 
I have said this happens numerous times on this site.
I know it happens in St. Louis, KC and even some traditional powerhouse programs that boarder towns such as Jeff City, Columbia, Joplin and Springfield.

Boy you had me right up until you added Springfield, there is no traditional powerhouse football program near Springfield. Maybe basketball....
 
A lot of people living in a fairytale. That’s ok, you keep telling yourself only private schools recruit.
 
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I heard some kids get free cookies if they win a game, sometimes rice krispies!!! Not saying its recruiting but cmon man!
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A lot of people living in a fairytale. That’s ok, you keep telling yourself only private schools recruit.

You are missing the point, while yes it is about the recruitment of players, it is more about the differences in the Rules for Private versus Public once a kid decides to change schools.
For example Pierce City could recruit Monett players all day, but those players families would have to actually move to that district, and not just one parent both parents the whole family has to move or the box gets checked for athletic reasons, it would and it is expensive to uproot your whole family, selling your home in one school district and purchasing in another shoot it could take a year to sell your home. However for example if Pierce City was a private school those same recruits don't have to move, they really don't have to do anything except change schools, basically check the box they felt unsafe at their public school an poof you are done and in a new school ready to contribute athletically. So while it is a problem that schools recruit, the bigger problem is how easy it is for those kids to move from school to school that makes the difference and those rule differences.
And we are not even talking about a small class 2 private school in a big city recruiting from over 500,000 people versus a rural public school that in their small county might only have 15,000 total people, that is a whole other issue in itself.
 
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I think that due to success a lot of private and public schools get accused of recruiting when they are not. A kid moving into a school on his own due to the schools winning is not recruiting. I call this the field of dreams theory. “If you build it they will come.”

I have personally seen parents work to get parents to move to their school district, but again public you are talking about uprooting your whole family, selling your home just to go to a public school that might or might not still be successful by the time you get there. However if being recruited by a parents to a successful private school you just have to enroll your kid and boom you are done!
 
You are missing the point, while yes it is about the recruitment of players, it is more about the differences in the Rules for Private versus Public once a kid decides to change schools.
For example Pierce City could recruit Monett players all day, but those players families would have to actually move to that district, and not just one parent both parents the whole family has to move or the box gets checked for athletic reasons, it would and it is expensive to uproot your whole family, selling your home in one school district and purchasing in another shoot it could take a year to sell your home. However for example if Pierce City was a private school those same recruits don't have to move, they really don't have to do anything except change schools, basically check the box they felt unsafe at their public school an poof you are done and in a new school ready to contribute athletically. So while it is a problem that schools recruit, the bigger problem is how easy it is for those kids to move from school to school that makes the difference and those rule differences.
And we are not even talking about a small class 2 private school in a big city recruiting from over 500,000 people versus a rural public school that in their small county might only have 15,000 total people, that is a whole other issue in itself.

If only it were just 500,000. Stl metro area is almost 3 million...
 
District - All member schools, both public and non-public, shall establish defined geographical attendance districts for athletic eligibility purposes. The boundary for a non-public school attendance district shall be established by the school’s governing board and shall include an area not to exceed a twenty-five mile radius measured from the school principal’s office. A current map showing the non-public school’s attendance district boundary shall be on file in the MSHSAA office. Any subsequent change in the non-public school’s attendance boundary must be reported to the MSHSAA office no later than February 1 preceding the school year the change is to become effective since any change will be used in determining the eligibility of transfer students. The boundary for a Charter School attendance district is set by state law, but may be reduced at the school’s discretion for athletic eligibility purposes only. If thus reduced, a current map showing the Charter School’s attendance boundary shall be on file in the MSHSAA office and changes must be reported no later than February 1 preceding the school year the change is to become effective. The Missouri School for the Blind and the Missouri School of the Deaf shall be exempt from establishing a defined geographic attendance district for athletic eligibility purposes. e. Restricted Eligibility - A transfer student who is granted restricted eligibility may participate in designated sports only at the subvarsity level of competition until the student has been in continuous attendance at the new school for 365 days from the date of enrollment.
Per MSHSAA
 
I actually did not realize there was a theoretical boundary at all. Here in Jasper County... just to illustrate the difference based on this formula -

Total District Area -

Webb City 58.32sq mi
Joplin 69.98sq mi
Carthage 125.65sq mi
CJ 129.81sq mi
College Heights Christian 1,962.50sq mi

A private school in Joplin could have a 'district' to select or recruit athletes from that includes all of Joplin, CJ, Webb City, Cathage, Seneca, Neosho, Galena and the rest of SEK including much of Pittsburg. None of them would have to move. In a larger metro it would be even more dramatic because it would be including large suburbs and heavily populated impoverished urban areas (with bad school districts) instead of areas that are generally pretty supportive of their public schools and a lot of rural area.
 
I actually did not realize there was a theoretical boundary at all. Here in Jasper County... just to illustrate the difference based on this formula -

Total District Area -

Webb City 58.32sq mi
Joplin 69.98sq mi
Carthage 125.65sq mi
CJ 129.81sq mi
College Heights Christian 1,962.50sq mi

A private school in Joplin could have a 'district' to select or recruit athletes from that includes all of Joplin, CJ, Webb City, Cathage, Seneca, Neosho, Galena and the rest of SEK including much of Pittsburg. None of them would have to move. In a larger metro it would be even more dramatic because it would be including large suburbs and heavily populated impoverished urban areas (with bad school districts) instead of areas that are generally pretty supportive of their public schools and a lot of rural area.
Did you miss where a non-public school cannot exceed at 25 mile radius from the school principal’s office?
 
So I heard that a Kansas City area Class 6 school in football, had players that were faking residency and got busted by their district. The district did a door-knock check for residency, and found an address used by three students at one high school. Parents were listed on various bills so as to prove residency. No one lived at the apartment. Okay, not saying this was recruiting, but come on?
Remind me again how that would affect a school like Rockhurst and say ... students who don't even live in the state of Missouri?
 
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