Private Schools 2021 points breakdown

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

CLASS 6 15 16 17 18 19 20

SLUH 1414 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Rockhurst 1408 0 1 0 3 0 0 = 4
CBC 1254 Up 1 3 1 4 4 0 0 = 12
DeSmet 1010 Up 1 0 0 0 0 4 3 = 7
Vianney 818 Up 2 0 4 1 4 0 0 = 9

Class 5 15 16 17 18 19 20
Chaminade 856 Up 1 3 1 0 0 1 1 = 6
Helias 550 Up 1 0 0 0 0 0 3/4 = 3/4

Class 4 15 16 17 18 19 20
St Dominic 599 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Bishop Dubourg 548 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
MICDS 467 Up 1 0 0 0 3 0 3/4 = 6/7
John Burroughs 339 up 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 = 4
Trinity 243 Up 2 0 3 0 4 3 0 = 10

Class 3 15 16 17 18 19 20
Westminister 507 2 0 0 0 0 0 = 2
St Mary's 428 0 0 0 0 2 0 = 2
Priory 382 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Borgia 359 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Miller Career 350 0 2 0 0 0 0 = 0
Pembroke Hill 318 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Cardinal Ritter 253 Up 1 1 0 0 3 0 2 = 6
Lutheran North 175 Up 2 1 0 2 2 4 1 = 10
Valle Catholic 105 Up 2 4 1 3 0 4 0 = 12
St Pius X(Kcity) 258 Up1 0 0 0 0 0 3/4 = 3/4

Class 2 15 16 17 18 19 20
Confluence Prep 305 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Lutheran St Charles 303 0 0 0 0 1 0 = 1
Springfield Catholic 291 0 0 0 1 0 0 = 1
Lutheran South 288 0 0 2 0 0 0 = 2
St Michael the Archangel 273 0 0 0 0 = 0
MMA 256 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Lift for Life 252 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Hogan Prep 246 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Duchesene 236 0 0 0 0 0 1 = 1
Christian (O'Fallon) 219 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
St Pius X (Festus) 203 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Summit Christian 192 up1 0 1 0 1 1 1 = 4

Class 1 15 16 17 18 19 20
Father Tolton 183 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
University Academy 170 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
St Vincent 124 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Principia 122 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0

 

[oldno24]

Based on the following (from a SW MO newspaper), why wouldn't a team like Lutheran North move up two classes?

"1. Post-season points
a. District Champion: 1 point
b. State 3rd/4th Place: 2 points
c. State 2nd Place: 3 points
d. State Champion: 4 points
IMPORTANT: Points are not cumulative within each season. Each program will only receive the points for the highest finish. If a team wins a state title it is four points only. You do not add district points on top of the championship.

Here are the plateaus for moving up classifications:

2. Point Totals for Re-Classification:
a. 0 – 2 points: remain classified based on raw enrollment
b. 3 – 7 points: re-classified one class above where classified on raw enrollment
c. 8+ points: re-classified two classes above where classified on raw enrollment"

 

[JNreturns]

Thats not confusing

 

[kaskaskiakid]

I like the concept, but not the specific numbers. So if you finish 1st or 2nd in state and get 3 or 4 points, you get bumped up a class the following year. For some schools, making it to the championship game is a once in a lifetime thing, and probably graduating some studs, and immediately they get bumped up to stiffer competition. I thought the purpose was to make it harder for schools that dominate over a period of 6 years, not 1 year.

 

[Jomjam]

I like the concept, but not the specific numbers. So if you finish 1st or 2nd in state and get 3 or 4 points, you get bumped up a class the following year. For some schools, making it to the championship game is a once in a lifetime thing, and probably graduating some studs, and immediately they get bumped up to stiffer competition. I thought the purpose was to make it harder for schools that dominate over a period of 6 years, not 1 year.

My only argument to that is private schools that are good stayed in the same class as last year because of success factor and the ones that moved up 2 faired pretty well. But i do agree, a strong senior class can f the program for 5 years

 

[GermanDeadPeriodRecruiter]

Based on the following (from a SW MO newspaper), why wouldn't a team like Lutheran North move up two classes?

"1. Post-season points
a. District Champion: 1 point
b. State 3rd/4th Place: 2 points
c. State 2nd Place: 3 points
d. State Champion: 4 points
IMPORTANT: Points are not cumulative within each season. Each program will only receive the points for the highest finish. If a team wins a state title it is four points only. You do not add district points on top of the championship.

Here are the plateaus for moving up classifications:

2. Point Totals for Re-Classification:
a. 0 – 2 points: remain classified based on raw enrollment
b. 3 – 7 points: re-classified one class above where classified on raw enrollment
c. 8+ points: re-classified two classes above where classified on raw enrollment"

Lutheran North has been bumped up two classes. They are a Class 1 school by enrollment. Class 3 is their ceiling.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

same here, Helias., St Pius X (Kcity) and possibly MICDS will get the worst end of this deal.

my prediction for the 2025 season for Private Schools

Class 6
SLUH
Rockhurst
CBC
DeSmet

Class 5
Chaminade
Helias

Class 4
Vianney
MICDS
Trinity
Cardinal Ritter
St Mary's
St Dominic
Bishop Duborg

Class 3
Westminster
John Burroughs
Lutheran North
Valle Catholic
St Pius X (KCity)
Priory
St Francis Borgia
Miller Career
Pembroke Hill

Class 2
Summit Christian
Confluence Prep
Springfield Catholic
Lutheran St Charles
Lutheran South
St Michael the Archangel
MMA
Life for Life
Hogan Prep
Duschense
Christian

Class 1
St Pius X (Festus)
Father Tolton
University Academy
Principia
St Vincent

I like the concept, but not the specific numbers. So if you finish 1st or 2nd in state and get 3 or 4 points, you get bumped up a class the following year. For some schools, making it to the championship game is a once in a lifetime thing, and probably graduating some studs, and immediately they get bumped up to stiffer competition. I thought the purpose was to make it harder for schools that dominate over a period of 6 years, not 1 year.

 

[Stl816]

same here, Helias., St Pius X (Kcity) and possibly MICDS will get the worst end of this deal.

my prediction for the 2025 season for Private Schools

Class 6
SLUH
Rockhurst
CBC
DeSmet

Class 5
Chaminade
Helias

Class 4
Vianney
MICDS
Trinity
Cardinal Ritter
St Mary's
St Dominic
Bishop Duborg

Class 3
Westminster
John Burroughs
Lutheran North
Valle Catholic
St Pius X (KCity)
Priory
St Francis Borgia
Miller Career
Pembroke Hill

Class 2
Summit Christian
Confluence Prep
Springfield Catholic
Lutheran St Charles
Lutheran South
St Michael the Archangel
MMA
Life for Life
Hogan Prep
Duschense
Christian

Class 1
St Pius X (Festus)
Father Tolton
University Academy
Principia
St Vincent

I don't understand this stuff. How does St. Mary’s and Ritter move up to 4?

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

i meant by the 2025 season

Private schools have a new point system they go by now!!!!
District Champion: 1 point
State 3rd/4th Place: 2 points
State 2nd Place: 3 points
State Champion: 4 points

Cardinal Ritter has to make the state championship next year to move up to Class 4 in 2022

and St Mary's has to win a district title next year to move u to Class 4 in 2022

I don't understand this stuff. How does St. Mary’s and Ritter move up to 4?

 

[oldno24]

I see Lutheran North was changed to "Up 2" in the original post. Makes more sense now.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

here's What 2022 private points could look like.
The Bold teams are ones who will or Possibly move up a class

MICDS needs 1 more win and they move up 2 classes to Class 5 and St Mary's moves up to Class 4 with their District Championship Last night. Cardinal Ritter needs 2 more wins to move up to Class 4 and Lutheran St Charles need a Quarterfinal win to move up to Class 3. Looks like Duchesne would be the Toughest private school in Class 2 and St Pius X (Festus) in Class 1


CLASS 6
16 17 18 19 20 21
SLUH 1482 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Rockhurst 1429 1 0 3 0 0 0 = 4
CBC Up 1 1226 1 4 4 0 0 3/4 = 12
DeSmet 1012 Up 1 0 0 0 4 3 0 = 7
Vianney 834 Up 2 0 4 1 4 0 0 = 9

Class 5
Chaminade 824 Up 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 = 4
Helias 562 Up 1 0 0 0 0 4 0= 4
MICDS 467 Up 2 0 0 3 0 3 3/4= 9/10

Class 4
St Dominic 645 0 0 0 0 0 1 = 1
Confluence Prep/ Grand Center Arts 596 0 0 0 0 0 0= 0
St Mary's 408 Up 1 408 0 0 0 2 0 3/4 = 5/6
Cardinal Ritter 247 Up 2 0 0 3 0 2 3/4 = 8/9

Class 3
Westminister 505 2 0 0 0 0 0 = 2
Bishop Dubourg 499 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Priory 346 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
John Burroughs 333 0 0 0 0 0 0= 0
Lutheran St Charles Up 1 316 0 0 0 1 0 3/4 = 4/5
St Pius X(Kcity) 258 Up 1 0 0 0 0 3 3/4 = 6/7
Summit Christian 217 Up 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 = 4
Lutheran North 150 Up 2 0 2 2 4 1 0 = 9
Valle Catholic 104 Up 2 1 3 0 4 0 0 = 8

Class 2
Lutheran South 329 2 0 0 0 0 0= 2
Pembroke Hill 314 0 0 0 0 0 0= 0
Borgia 313 0 0 0 0 0 0= 0
Hogan Prep 0 0 0 0 0 0=0
Lift for Life 284 0 0 0 0 0 1 = 1
Springfield Catholic 283 0 1 0 0 0 0= 1
St Michael the Archangel 280 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
MMA 236 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Duchesne 223 0 0 0 0 1 0= 1

Class 1
St Pius X (Festus) 207 0 0 0 0 0 0= 0
Father Tolton 199 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
University Academy 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
Principia 116 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0
St Vincent 105 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 0

 

[Jomjam]

Chaminade will be C5 because I think they still double enrollment of non coed schools

 

[kaskaskiakid]

hmmmm...simple solution, I count 36 teams, 2 classes with 18 teams in each class based on enrollment....problem solved!!

 

[Nooner 5656]

Problem solved?
take out those 36, then reclassify with what’s left. Go down to 5 classes because you can barely fill the classes the way it is Now See what it looks like. You won’t like it. Better solution would be to just get better. Or just keep bitching because your school sucks.

 

[Pancho and Lefty]

hmmmm...simple solution, I count 36 teams, 2 classes with 18 teams in each class based on enrollment....problem solved!!

Hey, be careful talking common sense now. Agree then to go back to 5 classes for the rest of the public schools.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

I do say that half in jest, knowing it will never happen. I believe the last time MSHSAA schools voted on separate private classes, it failed something like 73% against.

If competitive fairness is the real issue, then I think public schools should follow the same rules in this new system.

 

[Pancho and Lefty]

I do say that half in jest, knowing it will never happen. I believe the last time MSHSAA schools voted on separate private classes, it failed something like 73% against.

If competitive fairness is the real issue, then I think public schools should follow the same rules in this new system.

I remembering it failing by a good bit as well. What is the reasoning for it failing? People afraid if they are split they will forgo MSHSAA and do their own thing with their own rules (or lack thereof)?

 

[Toots_mcgee]

I remembering it failing by a good bit as well. What is the reasoning for it failing? People afraid if they are split they will forgo MSHSAA and do their own thing with their own rules (or lack thereof)?

For one, if you anger private school parents they can vote against public school bond issues, tax levies, etc.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

I like the concept, but not the specific numbers. So if you finish 1st or 2nd in state and get 3 or 4 points, you get bumped up a class the following year. For some schools, making it to the championship game is a once in a lifetime thing, and probably graduating some studs, and immediately they get bumped up to stiffer competition. I thought the purpose was to make it harder for schools that dominate over a period of 6 years, not 1 year.

Most of the time, the private schools will dominate a class and not just be a 1 and done or a once in a lifetime thing!

 

[JNsDaddyzDaddyIownU]

Where is Trinity?

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

So sorry, Trinty is now St. Mary’s.

*Edited for initially & incorrectly spelling it as “Trinity.” My bad.

When they co-op, are they not suppose to take both enrollments and add them together?

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

They’re not coop. Trinty was shut down.

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