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Crying? It's called watching a baseball game and discussing strategy and players skills or lack thereof with friends. You should try it instead of whining about people who enjoy cardinals baseball. I'm pretty sure this board has the name St. Louis Cardinals ......
The 2 things that hurt them last year popped it's ugly head up last night, but they overcame it!In what universe was the easy hopper hit to Carp a base hit?He bobbled a perfect hop to scrub the out at 2nd then lobbed the ball like slow pitch to Wong covering 1st.Had the tossed straight and hard they would have least the got the out at 1st and the tying run would not have been at the plate.
Defense and RISP. Good start to the season when you beat the defending champs, Now we need to win the series!!! Go Birds!!!
Most people who watch 100 baseball games a year could manage the lineup and bullpen better.
Not the clubhouse, to be fair, but he is a below average tactical manager.
What is discouraging is that he has never shown real improvement.
I have no problem with Oh going 1+ innings and I think you might be in the minority with your thinking. Win the game. If Carp gets an out Oh gets the save.
Holy cow, I didn't think you people actually believed that. But your armchair mentality has finally clouded your rational thinking! Because you watch a game from home you believe you can out manage a guy, that not only played the sport well in a position that people consider an on field manager, but also a guy who took a team to a WS.
Dang, you are in the wrong industry!
I think you could...But for the record, I was referencing everyone on here. Strictly related to in game decisions.
Getting to the playoffs is what matters, after that it's all about matchups and who's hot or cold. That said, you could've gotten all of his teams into the playoffs. And it's beyond obvious you know ish about baseball (not a shot at you, totally a shot at Matheneging)...Again, this is about strategy from the first pitch to the final out. I'd be absolutely brutal in the clubhouse. Something tells me 80's country and mandatory ping pong games wouldn't go over extremely well.
I quess because I don't bad mouth every move MM does makes me not a fan. As I recall the Cards won the game so chill out . I bet you are a hoot to sit next to at a ball game.
No, but I'd guess you're a BFIB...It's not every move. Only a handful of the 50-100 decisions a manager makes per game are really anything close to complex. And like Nuetty and others point out, he struggles badly with that. And has shown zero improvement in four years.
I don't believe I would be better at tactics than Mike because I watch a lot of baseball. I would be better because I have also taken the time to read and understand what is working and what doesn't. That does not make me perfect, but, sadly, it makes me better than numerous MLB managers at making tactical decisions.
A lot of the tactical decisions are basically math problems. The Martinez 6th inning at bat is a great example of that - the Cards are pretty clearly better off using a PH there given (a) Martinez was already 6 innings into the game, (b) the Cards had an off day the next day, (c) the Cards have decent relievers, and (d) the value of even one more run when you are up 1-0 is huge for your win potential (not to mention we had a chance to blow the game open.) Mike Matheny lowered the likelihood that the Cardinals would win by not putting in a pinch hitter. This really wasn't that hard a spot, and Mike just goofed. What ended up happening was he got zero runs and only 1 more inning out of Martinez against the bottom half of their lineup where you could have used numerous relievers. That is a suboptimal outcome.
Managing the clubhouse is totally different, and I would give Mike a lot of leeway on that. I generally don't criticize him in that area because I don't really have much to say there.
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Some of the worst tactical managers in baseball at the time have taken their teams to the WS. Bob Brenly was horrendous but it doesn't matter when you get to pitch Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling for over half of your playoff games.
As long as you play your best players to start you've done the lion's share of what it takes to win. Having a good GM/system is far more important than having a good manager in MLB. The average team's performance reflects their front office, not their skipper.
Baseball tactics are nothing compared to NFL or NBA. And even those leagues have some horrendous tactical coaches.
Well I don't take my glove to the game and say golly gee that Matt Carpenter just had bad luck on that play at first. Gee willickers Mike Matheny is a god and Jhonny is a whale of a hitter in the prime of his career. Shazaam.
Isn't this nice to have debates without being called names. I still like MM, but have to agree that he is slow to show improvement in areas of line up construction and bullpen use, but I have seen some improvement in overall managing. We are 1-0 and on top of the Central. Smallest of sample size possible. Need to win the series
Go Birds
Isn't this nice to have debates without being called names. I still like MM, but have to agree that he is slow to show improvement in areas of line up construction and bullpen use, but I have seen some improvement in overall managing. We are 1-0 and on top of the Central. Smallest of sample size possible. Need to win the series
Wont it be nice if waino has his old stuff tonight?
Be nice if Rachel Bilson shows up on my doorstep tonight too. I give Waino the edge over Rachel, but not by much.
You and me both, man. I'm hoping for a Woody Williams type veteran effort. I honestly think he's the 4th best starter by the time the season is over. And that's because I don't see Wacha making the season. If Waino is good, the playoffs are a possibility.
Dude, whatever. We've got history. I almost bagged her at a party once. Then the alarm went off and woke me up.
Who didn't own Waino last year??? And he still won 13 games. Crazy. Almost makes one think wins are really relative.
At least it was the alarm that woke you up instead of ....... well, you know.
Yes not a bad break on a slow day.
Maybe Eagles just mis-remembered. It has to be hard for him to keep track of them all.Several months after you two met up?
