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When trumpy speaks, he does fine when he sticks to the prepared script. Then he leaves the script and starts pontificating to try to impress people with how intelligent he is, and here comes the BS. He does it everytime!!

Notice he stuck to the 20 min prepared statement Saturday and cut the press conference off with no questions.
 
I’m not sure what he was implying by the disinfectant in the body comment. I’m assuming he meant to see if creating something that would work like a disinfectant does to help the body. Poor choice of words but relax. No one is drinking bleach.

As for injecting light into the body, that’s a very common practice to help with viruses and bacteria in the body. It’s called UV Light therapy. It’s been practiced for years!

You are probably right. I thought the same thing about UV light. I believe UV is used in some cancer treatments, but don't know for sure. I'm not a doctor. Neither is Trump.

I think Trump hears ideas discussed in briefings with his experts, and then publicly try to explain his version when he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. That is a pattern for him on other topics besides covid.
 
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You are probably right. I thought the same thing about UV light. I believe UV is used in some cancer treatments, but don't know for sure. I'm not a doctor. Neither is Trump.

I think Trump hears ideas discussed in briefings with his experts, and then publicly try to explain his version when he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. That is a pattern for him on other topics besides covid.
This is exactly what Dr Birx said. He hears these things being thrown out as possible remedies and he runs with them. Will they work? Maybe. Maybe not.

It’s clear as day that he just wants a cure for Covid and is jumping at every possible solution thrown out there as a fix. Is that a sign that he has to go and he’s the worst president this country has ever seen? IMO, no. I know you guys beg to differ on that and more power to you.

Stay safe out there fellas. MO opening back up soon! And I’ll be in a turkey blind keeping my distance.
 
This is exactly what Dr Birx said. He hears these things being thrown out as possible remedies and he runs with them. Will they work? Maybe. Maybe not.

It’s clear as day that he just wants a cure for Covid and is jumping at every possible solution thrown out there as a fix. Is that a sign that he has to go and he’s the worst president this country has ever seen? IMO, no. I know you guys beg to differ on that and more power to you.

Stay safe out there fellas. MO opening back up soon! And I’ll be in a turkey blind keeping my distance.
Gobble gobble be aware of the bird flu
 
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Here we are three days later and we still have people trying to justify what Trump said in front of the world On Thursday. What does that tell you?

He is TERRIBLE at this. He needs to get out of the way and let experts do their jobs and stop confusing the situation.

Follow the guidelines. Don’t follow the guidelines. It might work. It might not.

If it might not, then don’t mention it!!!!
 
Exactly, he needs to shut his mouth about things he knows nothing about. But he can't do it because everything is about him.
 
It’s only going to get worse now boys. With Kim Jung being reported dead or hanging on by a thread, that leaves Trump and Putin battling to rule the world. And I’d argue Trump has Putin in the palm of his hand.

Buckle up!
 
Remember when he said no Americans were injured by the Iranian attack? Then for the next week it trickled out that dozens of head injuries occurred?
 
It’s clear as day that he just wants a cure for Covid and is jumping at every possible solution thrown out there as a fix. Is that a sign that he has to go and he’s the worst president this country has ever seen? IMO, no. I know you guys beg to differ on that and more power to you.

Someone who continually makes decisions contrary to the experts is dangerous. This entire pandemic is a perfect example.
 
Here we are three days later and we still have people trying to justify what Trump said in front of the world On Thursday. What does that tell you?

He is TERRIBLE at this. He needs to get out of the way and let experts do their jobs and stop confusing the situation.

Follow the guidelines. Don’t follow the guidelines. It might work. It might not.

If it might not, then don’t mention it!!!!
Stupid statements by Trump will never justify the pandemic response of the Democrats.
 
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Someone who continually makes decisions contrary to the experts is dangerous. This entire pandemic is a perfect example.
I would not say he makes decisions contrary to the experts. He just blurts out stuff that he hears in briefings as the experts are spitballing ideas.

He was dead set on opening the country by Easter. Experts said no, so he didn’t.
 
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I would not say he makes decisions contrary to the experts. He just blurts out stuff that he hears in briefings as the experts are spitballing ideas.

He was dead set on opening the country by Easter. Experts said no, so he didn’t.

But by bringing it up over and over he is giving people permission to not follow the lockdown. It’s like being a head football coach and preaching the importance of not abusing alcohol to your players and then being seen stumbling out of a bar drunk every weekend. What message is being received?

when you say liberate Minnesota and liberate Michigan you are sending a message that the guidelines you mailed out all over the country are nonsense. You know this.
 
But by bringing it up over and over he is giving people permission to not follow the lockdown. It’s like being a head football coach and preaching the importance of not abusing alcohol to your players and then being seen stumbling out of a bar drunk every weekend. What message is being received?

when you say liberate Minnesota and liberate Michigan you are sending a message that the guidelines you mailed out all over the country are nonsense. You know this.
No it's not. The Michigan Gov. has overreacted and is mandating stupid policies. Trump has not used the shutdown to sieze unethical power, unlike every single Democrat alive. Snitch lines included. At the same time he doesn't risk lives to prove a point in the name of liberty.
 
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The lies seem to stand out far more than the accomplishments. I wonder why?
Wouldn't it be great if Trumps lies cancelled the Democrat lies and made the Democrats better? Sorry the fruit party lies and on top of that they're terrible. Nothing can make up for how awful they are.
 
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Here we are three days later and we still have people trying to justify what Trump said in front of the world On Thursday. What does that tell you?
No one is justifying what Trump said. It is in black and white and on video. It doesn't need justified.
What it does show is, three days later you are still trying to spin it into a political advantage.....desperate.
 
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How you can support and vote for a man that blatantly lies and his own people immediately refute his lies is beyond me. The average American can't believe anything the prez says. That's a problem.
 
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It’s only going to get worse now boys. With Kim Jung being reported dead or hanging on by a thread, that leaves Trump and Putin battling to rule the world. And I’d argue Trump has Putin in the palm of his hand.

Buckle up!
SK now says Kim is alive and well.
 
Because he’s the best option on the ticket come Nov and it’s seriously not even close.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s erratic handling of the coronavirus outbreak, the worsening economy and a cascade of ominous public and private polling have Republicans increasingly nervous that they are at risk of losing the presidency and the Senate if Trump does not put the nation on a radically improved course.

The scale of the GOP’s challenge has crystallized in the last week. With 26 million Americans now having filed for unemployment benefits, Trump’s standing in states that he carried in 2016 looks increasingly wobbly: New surveys show him trailing significantly in battleground states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and he is even narrowly behind in must-win Florida.

Democrats raised substantially more money than Republicans did in the first quarter in the most pivotal congressional races, according to recent campaign finance reports. And while Trump is well ahead in money compared with the presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden, Democratic donors are only beginning to focus on the general election, and several super political action committees plan to spend heavily on behalf of him and the party.

Perhaps most significantly, Trump’s single best advantage as an incumbent — his access to the bully pulpit — has effectively become a platform for self-sabotage.

His daily news briefings on the coronavirus outbreak are inflicting grave damage on his political standing, Republicans believe, and his recent remarks about combating the virus with sunlight and disinfectant were a breaking point for a number of senior party officials.

On Friday evening, Trump conducted only a short briefing and took no questions, a format that a senior administration official said was being discussed as the best option for the president going forward.

Glen Bolger, a longtime Republican pollster, said the landscape for his party had become far grimmer compared with the previrus plan to run almost singularly around the country’s prosperity.

“With the economy in free-fall, Republicans face a very challenging environment, and it’s a total shift from where we were a few months ago,” Bolger said. “Democrats are angry, and now we have the foundation of the campaign yanked out from underneath us.”

Trump’s advisers and allies have often blamed external events for his most self-destructive acts, such as his repeated outbursts during the two-year investigation into his campaign’s dealings with Russia. Now there is no such explanation — and, so far, there have been exceedingly few successful interventions regarding Trump’s behavior at the podium.

Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., said the president had to change his tone and offer more than a campaign of grievance.
President Donald Trump departs a news conference about the coronavirus, at the White House in Washington, April 23, 2020. (Al Drago/The New York Times)
“You got to have some hope to sell people,” Cole said. “But Trump usually sells anger, division and ‘we’re the victim.’”

There are still more than six months until the election, and many Republicans are hoping that the dynamics of the race will shift once Biden is thrust back into the campaign spotlight. At that point, they believe, the race will not simply be the up-or-down referendum on the president it is now, and Trump will be able to more effectively sell himself as the person to rebuild the economy.

“We built the greatest economy in the world; I’ll do it a second time,” Trump said earlier this month, road-testing a theme he will deploy in the coming weeks.

Still, a recent wave of polling has fueled Republican anxieties, as Biden leads in virtually every competitive state.

The surveys also showed Republican senators in Arizona, Colorado, North Carolina and Maine trailing or locked in a dead heat with potential Democratic rivals — in part because their fate is linked to Trump’s job performance. If incumbents in those states lose and Republicans pick up only the Senate seat in Alabama, Democrats would take control of the chamber should Biden win the presidency.

“He’s got to run very close for us to keep the Senate,” Charles Black, a veteran Republican consultant, said of Trump. “I’ve always thought we were favored to, but I can’t say that now with all these cards up in the air.”

Republicans were taken aback this past week by the results of a 17-state survey commissioned by the Republican National Committee. It found the president struggling in the Electoral College battlegrounds and likely to lose without signs of an economic rebound this fall, according to a party strategist outside the RNC who is familiar with the poll’s results.

The Trump campaign’s own surveys have also shown an erosion of support, according to four people familiar with the data, as the coronavirus remains the No. 1 issue worrying voters.

Polling this early is, of course, not determinative: In 2016 Hillary Clinton also enjoyed a wide advantage in many states well before November.

Yet Trump’s best hope to win a state he lost in 2016, Minnesota, also seems increasingly challenging. A Democratic survey taken by Sen. Tina Smith showed the president trailing by 10 percentage points there, according to a Democratic strategist who viewed the poll.

The private data of the two parties is largely mirrored by public surveys. Just last week, three Pennsylvania polls and two Michigan surveys were released showing Trump losing outside the margin of error. And a pair of Florida polls were released that showed Biden enjoying a slim advantage in a state that is all but essential for Republicans to retain the presidency.

To some in the party, this feels all too similar to the last time they held the White House.

In 2006, anger at President George W. Bush and unease with the Iraq War propelled Democrats to reclaim Congress; two years later they captured the presidency thanks to the same anti-incumbent themes and an unexpected crisis that accelerated their advantage: the economic collapse of 2008. The two elections were effectively a single continuous rejection of Republican rule — as some in the GOP fear 2018 and 2020 could become in a worst-case scenario.

“It already feels very similar to the 2008 cycle,” said Billy Piper, a Republican lobbyist and former chief of staff to Sen. Mitch McConnell.

Significant questions remain that could tilt the outcome of this election: whether Americans experience a second wave of the virus in the fall, the condition of the economy and how well Biden performs after he emerges from his Wilmington, Delaware, basement, which many in his party are privately happy to keep him in so long as Trump is fumbling as he governs amid a crisis.

But if Republicans are comforted by the uncertainties that remain, they are alarmed by one element of this election that is already abundantly clear: The small-dollar fundraising energy Democrats enjoyed in the midterms has not abated.

Most of the incumbent House Democrats facing competitive races enjoy a vast financial advantage over Republican challengers, who are struggling to garner attention as the virus overwhelms news coverage.

Still, few officials in either party believed the House was in play this year. There was also similar skepticism about the Senate. Then the virus struck, and fundraising reports covering the first three months of this year were released in mid-April.

Republican senators facing difficult races were not only all outraised by Democrats, they were also overwhelmed.

In Maine, for example, Sen. Susan Collins brought in $2.4 million, while her little-known rival, House speaker Sara Gideon, raised more than $7 million. Even more concerning to Republicans is lesser-known Thom Tillis of North Carolina. Republican officials are especially irritated at Tillis because he has little small-dollar support and raised only $2.1 million, which was more than doubled by his Democratic opponent.

“These Senate first-quarter fundraising numbers are a serious wake-up call for the GOP,” said Scott Reed, the top political strategist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The Republican Senate woes come as anger toward Trump is rising from some of the party’s most influential figures on Capitol Hill.

After working closely with Senate Republicans at the start of the year, some of the party’s top congressional strategists say the handful of political advisers Trump retains have communicated little with them since the health crisis began.

In a campaign steered by Trump, whose rallies drove fundraising and data harvesting, the center of gravity has of late shifted to the White House. His campaign headquarters will remain closed for another few weeks, and West Wing officials say the president’s campaign manager, Brad Parscale, hasn’t been to the White House since last month, though he is in touch by phone.

Then there is the president’s conduct.

In just the last week, he has undercut the efforts of his campaign and his allies to attack Biden on China; suddenly proposed a halt on immigration; and said governors should not move too soon to reopen their economies — a week after calling on protesters to “liberate” their states. And that was all before his digression into the potential healing powers of disinfectants.

Republican lawmakers have gone from watching his lengthy daily briefings with a tight-lipped grimace to looking upon them with horror.

“Any of us can be onstage too much,” said longtime Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, noting that “there’s a burnout factor no matter who you are; you’ve got to think about that.”

Privately, other party leaders are less restrained about the political damage they believe Trump is doing to himself and Republican candidates. One prominent GOP senator said the nightly sessions were so painful he could not bear watching any longer.
 
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WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s erratic handling of the coronavirus outbreak, the worsening economy and a cascade of ominous public and private polling have Republicans increasingly nervous that they are at risk of losing the presidency and the Senate if Trump does not put the nation on a radically improved course.

The scale of the GOP’s challenge has crystallized in the last week. With 26 million Americans now having filed for unemployment benefits, Trump’s standing in states that he carried in 2016 looks increasingly wobbly: New surveys show him trailing significantly in battleground states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and he is even narrowly behind in must-win Florida.

Democrats raised substantially more money than Republicans did in the first quarter in the most pivotal congressional races, according to recent campaign finance reports. And while Trump is well ahead in money compared with the presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden, Democratic donors are only beginning to focus on the general election, and several super political action committees plan to spend heavily on behalf of him and the party.

Perhaps most significantly, Trump’s single best advantage as an incumbent — his access to the bully pulpit — has effectively become a platform for self-sabotage.

His daily news briefings on the coronavirus outbreak are inflicting grave damage on his political standing, Republicans believe, and his recent remarks about combating the virus with sunlight and disinfectant were a breaking point for a number of senior party officials.

On Friday evening, Trump conducted only a short briefing and took no questions, a format that a senior administration official said was being discussed as the best option for the president going forward.

Glen Bolger, a longtime Republican pollster, said the landscape for his party had become far grimmer compared with the previrus plan to run almost singularly around the country’s prosperity.

“With the economy in free-fall, Republicans face a very challenging environment, and it’s a total shift from where we were a few months ago,” Bolger said. “Democrats are angry, and now we have the foundation of the campaign yanked out from underneath us.”

Trump’s advisers and allies have often blamed external events for his most self-destructive acts, such as his repeated outbursts during the two-year investigation into his campaign’s dealings with Russia. Now there is no such explanation — and, so far, there have been exceedingly few successful interventions regarding Trump’s behavior at the podium.

Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., said the president had to change his tone and offer more than a campaign of grievance.
President Donald Trump departs a news conference about the coronavirus, at the White House in Washington, April 23, 2020. (Al Drago/The New York Times)
“You got to have some hope to sell people,” Cole said. “But Trump usually sells anger, division and ‘we’re the victim.’”

There are still more than six months until the election, and many Republicans are hoping that the dynamics of the race will shift once Biden is thrust back into the campaign spotlight. At that point, they believe, the race will not simply be the up-or-down referendum on the president it is now, and Trump will be able to more effectively sell himself as the person to rebuild the economy.

“We built the greatest economy in the world; I’ll do it a second time,” Trump said earlier this month, road-testing a theme he will deploy in the coming weeks.

Still, a recent wave of polling has fueled Republican anxieties, as Biden leads in virtually every competitive state.

The surveys also showed Republican senators in Arizona, Colorado, North Carolina and Maine trailing or locked in a dead heat with potential Democratic rivals — in part because their fate is linked to Trump’s job performance. If incumbents in those states lose and Republicans pick up only the Senate seat in Alabama, Democrats would take control of the chamber should Biden win the presidency.

“He’s got to run very close for us to keep the Senate,” Charles Black, a veteran Republican consultant, said of Trump. “I’ve always thought we were favored to, but I can’t say that now with all these cards up in the air.”

Republicans were taken aback this past week by the results of a 17-state survey commissioned by the Republican National Committee. It found the president struggling in the Electoral College battlegrounds and likely to lose without signs of an economic rebound this fall, according to a party strategist outside the RNC who is familiar with the poll’s results.

The Trump campaign’s own surveys have also shown an erosion of support, according to four people familiar with the data, as the coronavirus remains the No. 1 issue worrying voters.

Polling this early is, of course, not determinative: In 2016 Hillary Clinton also enjoyed a wide advantage in many states well before November.

Yet Trump’s best hope to win a state he lost in 2016, Minnesota, also seems increasingly challenging. A Democratic survey taken by Sen. Tina Smith showed the president trailing by 10 percentage points there, according to a Democratic strategist who viewed the poll.

The private data of the two parties is largely mirrored by public surveys. Just last week, three Pennsylvania polls and two Michigan surveys were released showing Trump losing outside the margin of error. And a pair of Florida polls were released that showed Biden enjoying a slim advantage in a state that is all but essential for Republicans to retain the presidency.

To some in the party, this feels all too similar to the last time they held the White House.

In 2006, anger at President George W. Bush and unease with the Iraq War propelled Democrats to reclaim Congress; two years later they captured the presidency thanks to the same anti-incumbent themes and an unexpected crisis that accelerated their advantage: the economic collapse of 2008. The two elections were effectively a single continuous rejection of Republican rule — as some in the GOP fear 2018 and 2020 could become in a worst-case scenario.

“It already feels very similar to the 2008 cycle,” said Billy Piper, a Republican lobbyist and former chief of staff to Sen. Mitch McConnell.

Significant questions remain that could tilt the outcome of this election: whether Americans experience a second wave of the virus in the fall, the condition of the economy and how well Biden performs after he emerges from his Wilmington, Delaware, basement, which many in his party are privately happy to keep him in so long as Trump is fumbling as he governs amid a crisis.

But if Republicans are comforted by the uncertainties that remain, they are alarmed by one element of this election that is already abundantly clear: The small-dollar fundraising energy Democrats enjoyed in the midterms has not abated.

Most of the incumbent House Democrats facing competitive races enjoy a vast financial advantage over Republican challengers, who are struggling to garner attention as the virus overwhelms news coverage.

Still, few officials in either party believed the House was in play this year. There was also similar skepticism about the Senate. Then the virus struck, and fundraising reports covering the first three months of this year were released in mid-April.

Republican senators facing difficult races were not only all outraised by Democrats, they were also overwhelmed.

In Maine, for example, Sen. Susan Collins brought in $2.4 million, while her little-known rival, House speaker Sara Gideon, raised more than $7 million. Even more concerning to Republicans is lesser-known Thom Tillis of North Carolina. Republican officials are especially irritated at Tillis because he has little small-dollar support and raised only $2.1 million, which was more than doubled by his Democratic opponent.

“These Senate first-quarter fundraising numbers are a serious wake-up call for the GOP,” said Scott Reed, the top political strategist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The Republican Senate woes come as anger toward Trump is rising from some of the party’s most influential figures on Capitol Hill.

After working closely with Senate Republicans at the start of the year, some of the party’s top congressional strategists say the handful of political advisers Trump retains have communicated little with them since the health crisis began.

In a campaign steered by Trump, whose rallies drove fundraising and data harvesting, the center of gravity has of late shifted to the White House. His campaign headquarters will remain closed for another few weeks, and West Wing officials say the president’s campaign manager, Brad Parscale, hasn’t been to the White House since last month, though he is in touch by phone.

Then there is the president’s conduct.

In just the last week, he has undercut the efforts of his campaign and his allies to attack Biden on China; suddenly proposed a halt on immigration; and said governors should not move too soon to reopen their economies — a week after calling on protesters to “liberate” their states. And that was all before his digression into the potential healing powers of disinfectants.

Republican lawmakers have gone from watching his lengthy daily briefings with a tight-lipped grimace to looking upon them with horror.

“Any of us can be onstage too much,” said longtime Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, noting that “there’s a burnout factor no matter who you are; you’ve got to think about that.”

Privately, other party leaders are less restrained about the political damage they believe Trump is doing to himself and Republican candidates. One prominent GOP senator said the nightly sessions were so painful he could not bear watching any longer.
Hey buddy, next time just copy and past the link. It’s a lot easier.
 
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Was it fake news??
Could be, not anything I've seen or heard anywhere else just yet but his train was seen running around too. Who knows what that's about. I know you think it's fake since you haven't seen Kim or his train in person they don't exist.
 
I don't read links other people post to prove their point. I prefer you state your case and not be lazy and expect me to follow your links from your handpicked sources.
 
I don't read links other people post to prove their point. I prefer you state your case and not be lazy and expect me to follow your links from your handpicked sources.
Kask I think all those dribbles are really getting to your head. Please reread what you just said and explain to me how just posting the article via the link and copying the entire article and pasting it into this message board are different and helps “state ones case.”

The article is a “handpicked” piece. That’s why he didn’t post the link because he knew no one would read it. Just like you said! I bet you a meal at Kozy Kitchen that you open any link from any of your left wing buddies here. But god forbid if myself or any other right wing poster post a link, you “just gotta make your point” and not read it.
 
Kask I think all those dribbles are really getting to your head. Please reread what you just said and explain to me how just posting the article via the link and copying the entire article and pasting it into this message board are different and helps “state ones case.”

The article is a “handpicked” piece. That’s why he didn’t post the link because he knew no one would read it. Just like you said! I bet you a meal at Kozy Kitchen that you open any link from any of your left wing buddies here. But god forbid if myself or any other right wing poster post a link, you “just gotta make your point” and not read it.

Kozy Kitchen. Bahahahahaha
 
Exactly, he needs to shut his mouth about things he knows nothing about. But he can't do it because everything is about him.
Kask I think all those dribbles are really getting to your head. Please reread what you just said and explain to me how just posting the article via the link and copying the entire article and pasting it into this message board are different and helps “state ones case.”

The article is a “handpicked” piece. That’s why he didn’t post the link because he knew no one would read it. Just like you said! I bet you a meal at Kozy Kitchen that you open any link from any of your left wing buddies here. But god forbid if myself or any other right wing poster post a link, you “just gotta make your point” and not read it.
I won't bother with a long post
1. 15 cases soon to be down to 0 As of this post 972,481 cases with 54,944 dead.
2, March 6th everyone that wants a test can get a test As of today less than 2% of our citizens have got a test and doctors are still saying this is key to our recovery.
3. We are a backup. Is this what our country needs from the leader. Most successful teams want their leader to be a leader not a backup
These 3 things alone disqualify him for the job and we all know this just scratches the surface of his errors.
 
Sorry, you're wrong, I seriously don't read links. Most links are bias ed ops that are too long. If we're debating, you read your sources and give me your condensed version with the facts you want me to know.

Bader's make a pretty good breakfast, I'm hungry.
 
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I think what VB just posted is very important.

We can disagree on gun rights, immigration, healthcare, abortion, etc. But there is no way in the world you can be a serious person and think Trump is good at dealing with this virus nor having sincere empathy for its victims. At the briefing podium, he talked about TV ratings and being #1 on Facebook. That is sick.

Presidents typically unite people during a crisis. He hasn’t. He is not the leader we need right now. He needs to at least get out of the way.
 
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I think what VB just posted is very important.

We can disagree on gun rights, immigration, healthcare, abortion, etc. But there is no way in the world you can be a serious person and think Trump is good at dealing with this virus nor having sincere empathy for its victims. At the briefing podium, he talked about TV ratings and being #1 on Facebook. That is sick.

Presidents typically unite people during a crisis. He hasn’t. He is not the leader we need right now. He needs to at least get out of the way.
eye roll
 
I think what VB just posted is very important.

We can disagree on gun rights, immigration, healthcare, abortion, etc. But there is no way in the world you can be a serious person and think Trump is good at dealing with this virus nor having sincere empathy for its victims. At the briefing podium, he talked about TV ratings and being #1 on Facebook. That is sick.

Presidents typically unite people during a crisis. He hasn’t. He is not the leader we need right now. He needs to at least get out of the way.
Who has been good at dealing with the virus? I’m curious.

China? Italy? Iran?

Just trying to get an idea of who he should’ve been more like in your eyes.
 
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