Oh man

[Veer2Eternity]

Oh man.


Lutheran North Head Coach Kyle Wagner heard the talk and reminded his team the week before a semifinal matchup in the Missouri Class 4 state tournament that their opponent, the defending state champion Kearney Bulldogs, supposedly had the best defense in the state.

Wagner urged his team to prove that Lutheran North’s defense was better on the field. They looked forward to this potential matchup with the undefeated, defending state champs throughout a season with just one loss.

“We heard all year about Kearney’s defense, nobody really talked about our defense,” Wagner said.


https://prepskc.com/articles/features.php?id=8112

 

[_slo_mo_]

Lutheran North proved it on the field and there ain’t nothing Kearney can do about it for about 300 days. Winners write the narrative.

 

[thetophat2021]

Lutheran North proved it on the field and there ain’t nothing Kearney can do about it for about 300 days. Winners write the narrative.

They won't play next year.

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

They won't play next year.

Why not?

 

[thetophat2021]

Why not?

LN will move up.

 

[Cards1968]

LN will move up.

They are at their ceiling by enrollment.

 

[thetophat2021]

They are at their ceiling by enrollment.

Will check into that but you are one of the experts here on this subject.

 

[cardsfan200306]

Will check into that but you are one of the experts here on this subject.

They are a C2 enrollment with a 2 class bump.

They are closer to C1 enrollment than C3

 

[ChaoticFanatic]

Will check into that but you are one of the experts here on this subject.

Pretty sure Cards is right. They were class 2 before the success factor

 

[thetophat2021]

They are a C2 enrollment with a 2 class bump.

They are closer to C1 enrollment than C3

That makes me wonder if they may go the way of Trinity Catholic..................

 

[Veer2Eternity]

That makes me wonder if they may go the way of Trinity Catholic..................

All those athletes will assemble elsewhere (in the StL area) then.

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

Which in my opinion is why metro privates should get a 3 class bump.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Which in my opinion is why metro privates should get a 3 class bump.

Why metro only?

You don't think the 'non-metro' have the same big advantage?

 

[Wheels 1]

That makes me wonder if they may go the way of Trinity Catholic..................

33 from class 1 and 118 from class 3. They are at 204 raw enrollment. Kinda crazy.

 

[cardsfan200306]

33 from class 1 and 118 from class 3. They are at 204 raw enrollment. Kinda crazy.

99 from C3 remember champ factor is off raw enrollment numbers( the ones in gray below the final numbers in bold)

 

[cardsfan200306]

That makes me wonder if they may go the way of Trinity Catholic..................

It's all a joke. They either need to rework champ factor where they can all max at C6 or imo just go be in 1 class by themselves

 

[Veer2Eternity]

It's all a joke. They either need to rework champ factor where they can all max at C6 or imo just go be in 1 class by themselves

Linneman and Gibbs won't be letting that happen.

 

[cardsfan200306]

Linneman and Gibbs won't be letting that happen.

I'm gonna leave my hatred for mshsaa and their pocket lining BS out of this for now

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

Why metro only?

You don't think the 'non-metro' have the same big advantage?

By population density no they don’t. It’s not the same or schools like Valle and other small rural private schools would be having the same amount of success. You could also had schools in Green, Cole and Boone County.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

By population density no they don’t. It’s not the same or schools like Valle and other small rural private schools would be having the same amount of success. You could also had schools in Green, Cole and Boone County.

They can get kids from anywhere. Just like the metro schools. Valle and SV both have 'medium' sized public schools in the same town that mostly struggle. The talent is siphoned.

I noticed some Illinois tags in the Adrian parking lot yesterday. Surely there weren't kids from14 miles up the road from Perryville driving over.

Put them in their own divisions and let them have at it.

 

[thetophat2021]

It's all a joke. They either need to rework champ factor where they can all max at C6 or imo just go be in 1 class by themselves

Or just do what states like Mississippi and Tennessee have......................but perhaps that makes too much sense? NOW in saying that I actually really enjoyed watching to see how Kearney would fare against this all star team turned out to be a great one.

 

[cardsfan200306]

Or just do what states like Mississippi and Tennessee have......................but perhaps that makes too much sense? NOW in saying that I actually really enjoyed watching to see how Kearney would fare against this all star team turned out to be a great one.

I prefer Texas' system but the one clear conclusion missouri needs to do better

 

[revno]

Sooo, Kearney got beat by a school with a barely class 2 sized enrollment?

 

[thetophat2021]

Sooo, Kearney got beat by a school with a barely class 2 sized enrollment?

So did Cardinal Ritter..............

 

[cardsfan200306]

Sooo, Kearney got beat by a school with a barely class 2 sized enrollment?

A team that recruits well can beat any school with an enrollment of 22. If it's the right 22 kids. It's not a level playing field and never will be until they seperate them

 

[revno]

A team that recruits well can beat any school with an enrollment of 22. If it's the right 22 kids. It's not a level playing field and never will be until they seperate them

That was my point. I think i was being obtuse.

 

[cardsfan200306]

That was my point. I think i was being obtuse.

Tone can rarely be conveyed between two strangers via written word

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

A team that recruits well can beat any school with an enrollment of 22. If it's the right 22 kids. It's not a level playing field and never will be until they seperate them

LN will stay in C4 for a long time if they don’t get shut down or somehow co-op with a school. Honestly they’re is 3 schools who could stop LN success in C4 is Kearney, Smithville or Hillsboro if they’re at their best

I prefer that it’s time to separate Public Private soon, it’s not even missouri either, Illionis and other states having the same issues.

Private schools has the upper advantages over public schools any day. They Recruit from in-state to out of state. Private schools also have advantage since they most have one way players but like Class 1, 2 3 and some Class 4 schools have 2-Way players.

I say if MSHSAA doesn’t do anything just ship the private school football teams over to illionis and let them deal with it.

 

[thetophat2021]

LN will stay in C4 for a long time if they don’t get shut down or somehow co-op with a school. Honestly they’re is 3 schools who could stop LN success in C4 is Kearney, Smithville or Hillsboro if they’re at their best

I prefer that it’s time to separate Public Private soon, it’s not even missouri either, Illionis and other states having the same issues.

Private schools has the upper advantages over public schools any day. They Recruit from in-state to out of state. Private schools also have advantage since they most have one way players but like Class 1, 2 3 and some Class 4 schools have 2-Way players.

I say if MSHSAA doesn’t do anything just ship the private school football teams over to illionis and let them deal with it.

Yesterday was a classic case of a top team, never mind if public or private, getting out of jail for free the week before vs. their former QB. Those virtually always play far better the next game.

Yeah it is looking like 4 is max for LN fine so be it. Kearney really didn't play near its best game yesterday and still had a shot at the end. You did bring up a couple of others I am not sure about Hillsboro they were about those special brothers both now done with HSFB. Jury is out on Smithville. The Warriors had to replace lots of skill talent from the prior two stellar years and their elite HC moved on. Watch numbers and performance the next two years. Very, very tough to try to replace a once in a generation HC like Ambroson.

 

[OldeCoach]

LN will stay in C4 for a long time if they don’t get shut down or somehow co-op with a school. Honestly they’re is 3 schools who could stop LN success in C4 is Kearney, Smithville or Hillsboro if they’re at their best

I prefer that it’s time to separate Public Private soon, it’s not even missouri either, Illionis and other states having the same issues.

Private schools has the upper advantages over public schools any day. They Recruit from in-state to out of state. Private schools also have advantage since they most have one way players but like Class 1, 2 3 and some Class 4 schools have 2-Way players.

I say if MSHSAA doesn’t do anything just ship the private school football teams over to illionis and let them deal with it.

SB 1051 is the solution to every point you make in this post!!! It takes effect 7-1-25!!!
It levels the playing field and allows public schools to do everything a private school can do.
It will also allow MSHSAA to do away with the success factor.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

SB 1051 is the solution to every point you make in this post!!! It takes effect 7-1-25!!!
It levels the playing field and allows public schools to do everything a private school can do.
It will also allow MSHSAA to do away with the success factor.

No

 

[OldeCoach]

No

Yes!!! Public school open enrollment!!!

 

[cardsfan200306]

SB 1051 is the solution to every point you make in this post!!! It takes effect 7-1-25!!!
It levels the playing field and allows public schools to do everything a private school can do.
It will also allow MSHSAA to do away with the success factor.

Last I heard it was just through select committee not all the way passed and not signed by governor. Still many hurdles. Maybe that's changed but I have seen nothing.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

SB 1051 is the solution to every point you make in this post!!! It takes effect 7-1-25!!!
It levels the playing field and allows public schools to do everything a private school can do.
It will also allow MSHSAA to do away with the success factor.

I am against SB 1051, even with Open enrollment I think it won’t level the playing field. I think the level of competition will go down not up!!!

Just say schools around Lamar have students transferring from Lamar to go to other schools to win starting jobs for football, vice versa a student who is the best player for a horrible team but want to transfer to Lamar because of their championship success. I honestly think it would make the schools who loose students in open enrollment but don’t gain open enrollment students will make their sports programs go downhill