I honestly believe this tribalism began before Trump. Merrick Garland, birtherism, how soon we forget. If Obama did the things that Trump has done the Pubs would be screaming until the veins in their heads popped and you know this is true
Nobody could see this coming
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vb, it began with the reps hatred of Bill Clinton. Besides Monica affair, they investigated the Clintons for 7 yrs over Whitewater. Both sides have been playing payback since.
I think it goes back much much further but the media coverage with the Clintons was heavy.
I understand folks hate towards Trump because I was there with the Clinton’s.
Well, doesn’t it all go back to just how much more access we have to information? Were there not huge moral failures in history? Or did we just not have the information....
We just know about it now. And the media has changed a lot in 25 years
We just know about it now. And the media has changed a lot in 25 years
I agree, but they were still able to do the peoples business. Just today both parties are playing games with the 4th rescue package at the expense of we the people.
Congressional Term Limits. Better oversight over profiteering as a politician. Lobbying bans. Pork restrictions.
Swamp isn't drained.
Obama did some terrible things. The media covered for Obama. It's not comparable. Not even close. I'm not going into Clinton thing. That was too far back for me. I still think a BJ at the office can't be all bad.
I know one. In 2009 he pushed a 9 billion stimulus package through with no republican votes. Does that count?
forced us into socialized healthcare that we would be penalized for not jumping on board with
So I can sign up for socialized health care and stop paying $14,000 a year in premiums for nothing? Where can I find this program we were “forced into”?
Obama care fixed all that. What a sucker. Bahaha
I remember when my employer had the group insurance guy in... "you can see how we have kept your premium the same throughout all these years"
Me in my head: Yes, never mind that my deductible doubled. No big deal.
Me in my head: Yes, never mind that my deductible doubled. No big deal.
Obamacare is socialized healthcare! You can sign up. We WERE forced to buy healthcare by penalty of government fines.
If you are paying $14,000 a year for nothing, you are an even bigger fool than I thought.
I see you didn’t answer my question.
You said we had socialized healthcare.
Where is it?
It’s nowhere. Because you still don’t know what socialism is. You throw out words like socialist and communist and you don’t even know what that entails.
Government run and mandated healthcare. We are already 50% socialist in nature now.
Quack
The only hospitals our government owns are the VA hospitals. That’s the only socialized medicine we have.
We also have Medicare, which is basically a gov insurance plan which places much needed price controls on doctors, labs and hospitals. That isn’t socialism. The government does not own the businesses.
We also have Medicare, which is basically a gov insurance plan which places much needed price controls on doctors, labs and hospitals. That isn’t socialism. The government does not own the businesses.
