Nobody could see this coming

[Arkansas_Laserback]

Just another Trump BS lie that mosports sheep keep repeating.


First, Obama officials walk Trump aids through a global pandemic exercise in 2017.

Then, in 2017 and 2018, threat assessment intelligence analysts even mentioned a close cousin of coronavirus by name saying it had pandemic potential.

Then in 2018, the director for medical and biodefense preparedness at the National Security Council told a symposium that the threat of pandemic flu is our number one health security concern.

Then top TRUMP administration officials said last year that the threat of a pandemic kept them up at night.

Then, WHITE HOUSE economists warned in 2019 a pandemic could devastate America.

Then, intelligence reports warned of a coronavirus crisis as early as November.

And then, U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic hitting the U.S.

So stop with the nobody saw it coming nonsense. He ignored the warnings. 15,000 dead so far.

 

[Stop n Go]

Hi, Duck.

Why didn’t Obama/Biden refill the stock pile of masks after H1N1?

 

[Texascap]

Just another Trump BS lie that mosports sheep keep repeating.


First, Obama officials walk Trump aids through a global pandemic exercise in 2017.

Then, in 2017 and 2018, threat assessment intelligence analysts even mentioned a close cousin of coronavirus by name saying it had pandemic potential.

Then in 2018, the director for medical and biodefense preparedness at the National Security Council told a symposium that the threat of pandemic flu is our number one health security concern.

Then top TRUMP administration officials said last year that the threat of a pandemic kept them up at night.

Then, WHITE HOUSE economists warned in 2019 a pandemic could devastate America.

Then, intelligence reports warned of a coronavirus crisis as early as November.

And then, U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic hitting the U.S.

So stop with the nobody saw it coming nonsense. He ignored the warnings. 15,000 dead so far.

We know you love Communists. There's the Bernie thing that you didn't see coming?
Disneyland will re-open soon. You can join the children soon. Go back to bed. You repeat CCP NEWS. They are responsible for the virus. They are our enemy.

 

[vbsideout]

Hi, Duck.

Why didn’t Obama/Biden refill the stock pile of masks after H1N1?

Trump had 3.5 years to do it???????????/

 

[Arkansas_Laserback]

Hi, Duck.

Why didn’t Obama/Biden refill the stock pile of masks after H1N1?

Trump has been president for over 3 years, can you let me know when his presidency actually takes effect? You were giving him credit for the economy before he was even inaugurated. Now three years later, obama is responsible for Trump not being prepared despite more than two months warning.

 

[Draftpik]

Trump had 3.5 years to do it???????????/

Governments are bad at everything. Ask Italy.

 

[Stop n Go]

Trump had 3.5 years to do it???????????/

Obama had 6.5

 

[Arkansas_Laserback]

Obama had 6.5

Hell if Eisenhower had stored away a billion masks we would all be saved. You must be running a fever. See a doctor soon.

 

[vbsideout]

Obama had 6.5

I'm going to guess that the masks that were outdated and no good that Trump sent out were from the Obama years

 

[Stop n Go]

Trump has been president for over 3 years, can you let me know when his presidency actually takes effect? You were giving him credit for the economy before he was even inaugurated. Now three years later, obama is responsible for Trump not being prepared despite more than two months warning.

1) please reference where I gave him credit for the economy before he was inaugurated. I’ll gladly wait.
2) Obama had 6.5 years to refill the stock pile after H1N1. It’s amazing how you just can’t answer this question. Why didn’t they refill the stock pile?

 

[Stop n Go]

I'm going to guess that the masks that were outdated and no good that Trump sent out were from the Obama years

False. Obama wanted to create a whole new mask instead. Which he never followed through with. Meanwhile, Biden claims he had nothing to do with the refilling of the stockpile.

Obama/Biden left 30 million masks in the stockpile. An estimated 300 million masks are needed in a pandemic. Obama has 6.5 years to refill them. But you only complain about Trumps 3.5.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

Ducky... how about we all acknowledge no one in the world was prepared (including DJT) and maybe we can deal in the present. Drudging up old stuff doesn't really help anything, nor will that stuff change, as much as you want it to.

 

[Texascap]

Ducky... how about we all acknowledge no one in the world was prepared (including DJT) and maybe we can deal in the present. Drudging up old stuff doesn't really help anything, nor will that stuff change, as much as you want it to.

I'm glad Duck is back. He easily gets destroyed in every debate and is indicative of the uneducated base.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

I'm glad Duck is back. He easily gets destroyed in every debate and is indicative of the uneducated base.

he is really good at being grumpy and condescending though

 

[Draftpik]

he is really good at being grumpy and condescending though

He needs us. He lives in tunnel where no one disagrees.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Ducky... how about we all acknowledge no one in the world was prepared (including DJT) and maybe we can deal in the present. Drudging up old stuff doesn't really help anything, nor will that stuff change, as much as you want it to.

How come you never admonish the trumpettes?? you pretend to be nonpartisan but jump on board with them every chance you get

 

[vbsideout]

Ducky... how about we all acknowledge no one in the world was prepared (including DJT) and maybe we can deal in the present. Drudging up old stuff doesn't really help anything, nor will that stuff change, as much as you want it to.

So do you really think the Trump response to this virus in the here and now has been handled well? The every state fend for yourselves, is not what I consider a great approach during a national crisis. Delaying and telling people it was under control and hoping it would go away by April not really an aggressive approach to the problem and we have15 cases now that will soon be down to 0 was simply crazy talk! Oh let's not forget where he said if you want a test you can get a test and then explained to the world how much he knew about the subject as people to this day still can't get tested. The list goes on and on! Are these questions up to date enough?

 

[vbsideout]

He needs us. He lives in tunnel where no one disagrees.

I'm wearing my Grumpy for life T-shirt right now . Disney world is a great place for buying T-shirts

 

[you_dont_know_me]

So do you really think the Trump response to this virus in the here and now has been handled well? The every state fend for yourselves, is not what I consider a great approach during a national crisis. Delaying and telling people it was under control and hoping it would go away by April not really an aggressive approach to the problem and we have15 cases now that will soon be down to 0 was simply dillusional

Could his response be better...well of course in hindsight... we went 29-1 once in basketball...got an anonymous letter 2 months later in the mail that if we would have had someone else coaching we would have won the thing... yep... I'll bet Donald would go back and change some things! no one is saying he has done it perfect!

 

[you_dont_know_me]

How come you never admonish the trumpettes?? you pretend to be nonpartisan but jump on board with them every chance you get

I didn't say I was non-partisan...I'm just willing to break with my tribe over some things.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

How come you never admonish the trumpettes?? you pretend to be nonpartisan but jump on board with them every chance you get

I think it confuses/frustrates you that you can't pigeon hole me.

 

[Arkansas_Laserback]

Could his response be better...well of course in hindsight... we went 29-1 once in basketball...got an anonymous letter 2 months later in the mail that if we would have had someone else coaching we would have won the thing... yep... I'll bet Donald would go back and change some things! no one is saying he has done it perfect!

perfect? He ignored warnings for two months and we have been behind the virus ever sense. His handling has been an abortion.

He needed to take control of PPE manufacture and pricing to save hospital budgets all over the country. He is endangering all of us who don’t even have the virus. Ask the Cox hospital administrator.

He said he was a war time prez, then when things got hard he said he is only a back up.

His constant talking has caused daily confusion. If he would just have let Pence be in charge and shut up, at least there would have been a consistent message and some leadership.

He is an ass clown and you can’t get yourself to say it.

 

[Texascap]

perfect? He ignored warnings for two months and we have been behind the virus ever sense. His handling has been an abortion.

He needed to take control of PPE manufacture and pricing to save hospital budgets all over the country. He is endangering all of us who don’t even have the virus. Ask the Cox hospital administrator.

He said he was a war time prez, then when things got hard he said he is only a back up.

His constant talking has caused daily confusion. If he would just have let Pence be in charge and shut up, at least there would have been a consistent message and some leadership.

He is an ass clown and you can’t get yourself to say it.

What's more embarrassing than being DNC talk show anchor? Love your show Duck.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

perfect? He ignored warnings for two months and we have been behind the virus ever sense. His handling has been an abortion.

He needed to take control of PPE manufacture and pricing to save hospital budgets all over the country. He is endangering all of us who don’t even have the virus. Ask the Cox hospital administrator.

He said he was a war time prez, then when things got hard he said he is only a back up.

His constant talking has caused daily confusion. If he would just have let Pence be in charge and shut up, at least there would have been a consistent message and some leadership.

He is an ass clown and you can’t get yourself to say it.

So abortion is wrong?

I like Pence better too, but Trump is who we have, and he is getting things done. You just hate the man. It has completely blinded you. You give no credit. Even Cuomo (the non-cnn one) gave him some credit. Quack Quack Quack.

 

[Stop n Go]

perfect? He ignored warnings for two months and we have been behind the virus ever sense.

Ignored warnings from who? The World Health Organization said on Jan 14th that there was “no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus.”

But then for some odd reason, Trump banned travel to/from China on Jan 31st.

But I thought he ignored the warnings?

 

[Draftpik]

perfect? He ignored warnings for two months and we have been behind the virus ever sense. His handling has been an abortion.

He needed to take control of PPE manufacture and pricing to save hospital budgets all over the country. He is endangering all of us who don’t even have the virus. Ask the Cox hospital administrator.

He said he was a war time prez, then when things got hard he said he is only a back up.

His constant talking has caused daily confusion. If he would just have let Pence be in charge and shut up, at least there would have been a consistent message and some leadership.

He is an ass clown and you can’t get yourself to say it.

Why didn't the head of our Senate Intelligence Committee inform us? Oops must have been distracted.

 

[vbsideout]

What's more embarrassing than being DNC talk show anchor? Love your show Duck.

And you as well Hannity

 

[vbsideout]

You guys win, hopefully we won't test anybody and continue to delay getting vital equipment where needed and we probably should all go to church Easter Sunday! OK this is sarcasm, sorry for any confusion. Anybody who follows along would know I would never say you guys win unless I was being sarcastic.

 

[Stop n Go]

You guys win, hopefully we won't test anybody and continue to delay getting vital equipment where needed and we probably should all go to church Easter Sunday!

Ahh so you get beat and then resort to wishing ill upon others? Nice one.

And don’t spin this. Everyone who reads what you posted knows exactly what you meant by “won’t test anybody” and “should all go to church Easter Sunday!”

 

[you_dont_know_me]

I hope everyone gets tested. That is the best way forward! That is probably more helpful financially than a stimulus check. We can know how many had it, how many have it now, and how many don't have it! We could get some real data and stats on it!

 

[you_dont_know_me]

Vb, honestly...I respect you for being honest. Don't just write off this conversation. I think we both agree finger pointing does us no good now.

The way forward is making sure we protect our frontline workers and high risk, and testing as many people as possible.

 

[r14veer]

Logical fallacies, specious logic, bad-faith arguments: Is that seriously all we are capable of in 2020 or are we just lazy? All are guilty, including myself.

 

[vbsideout]

I hope everyone gets tested. That is the best way forward! That is probably more helpful financially than a stimulus check. We can know how many had it, how many have it now, and how many don't have it! We could get some real data and stats on it!

My post was sarcasm. I'll correct it

 

[you_dont_know_me]

My post was sarcasm. I'll correct it

I knew you were being sarcastic about allowing us to "win" but weren't really engaging with the objections raised.

 

[vbsideout]

I knew you were being sarcastic about allowing us to "win" but weren't really engaging with the objections raised.

All things mentioned in that post were and are things Trump dropped the ball on and continues to do so. Seems pretty engaging to me, thus the sarcasm

 

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

The derangement is strong in this thread.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Due to the unexpected magnitude of the crisis, I think most would give trumpy the benefit of the doubt on US not being prepare EXCEPT that he spent Jan and Feb trying to sell his magic beans "optimism" while the experts were warning him to expect worse. I remember hearing him make those statements downplaying the virus and I knew he was blowing smoke up the collective public's butts!!

 

[Draftpik]

Due to the unexpected magnitude of the crisis, I think most would give trumpy the benefit of the doubt on US not being prepare EXCEPT that he spent Jan and Feb trying to sell his magic beans "optimism" while the experts were warning him to expect worse. I remember hearing him make those statements downplaying the virus and I knew he was blowing smoke up the collective public's butts!!

This is how I see it.
Yes, statements that we all knew would not be beneficial if things continued to worsen. The shut downs and closings happened organically without much pressure from the, federal level. In part because we were all afraid of what we heard. What you and others on this board, with the help of the Chinese Corporate Media, NBA, Harvard Intellectuals in the pocket of China, Business Leaders through out our nation are attempting to do, is to rewrite recent history. Not just implicitly, but with false information broadcast from our corrupt lying media. Not that there are not good people inside, but as a whole they are corrupt organization.

China did this. They lied about it. They forced their proxy organizations like the WHO to lie for them in exchange for money.

We are a different society than the Chinese CCP. I'm not talking about the individual Chinese person. We are not a one world nation. The West is a better and moral people because of our ideals, our laws and our constitution. The Chinese Government is evil. They are and always will be against Freedom. They hate Tawain which is free. Hong Kong wanted freedom and they silenced them. They influence our Hollywood movies."Top Gun remake". China is highly influential in the UN yet they are the as rogue of human rights violators as Iran is. They call us racist yet they're the racist regime on the planet. They are few years removed from forced abortions. We have allowed them to do all these things, because we've said nothing. When you remain silent evil does it's work. One man saw this before anyone else. Donald J. Trump. He's said it 1000 times. He has not articulated it well. Many have called him a racist for it.
Trump is liable to say anything. He's not innocent. But he's not what the Democrats are, which is so much worse.

 

[Arcola]

Due to the unexpected magnitude of the crisis, I think most would give trumpy the benefit of the doubt on US not being prepare EXCEPT that he spent Jan and Feb trying to sell his magic beans "optimism" while the experts were warning him to expect worse. I remember hearing him make those statements downplaying the virus and I knew he was blowing smoke up the collective public's butts!!

I don’t see how President Trump escapes unscathed. If he updates people daily he’s criticized if he doesn’t he is accused of withholding. If he being optimistic he is not warning people. If he is warning people he is causing panic. Whatever he does he is criticized.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

I don’t see how President Trump escapes unscathed. If he updates people daily he’s criticized if he doesn’t he is accused of withholding. If he being optimistic he is not warning people. If he is warning people he is causing panic. Whatever he does he is criticized.

Does the Democratic Party see anything in this situation other than opportunity to flip the election? I think they just smell blood in the water.

Yes, every president from here on out will face similar persecution. You cannot win with everyone. Never will. Never have.