New Spin. Cuomo is a star.
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During his lying campaign I don't remember him talking about that wall so what's your point?
There would be no tax cut for wealthiest 1% and corporations and that $10 trillion over 10 yrs would be in our coffers.
We wouldn't be cutting spending on education, environment, and social programs for the elderly and children.
We would be expanding on Obamacare to make an affordable public option for those who want it.
We would be going after Big Pharma and health insurance for price gouging.
We wouldn't be spending $700 billion on defense (outer space air force, really??).
We would working towards building a coalition with our allies instead of alienating them.
We would recognize that Russia is our enemy and undermining our country instead of befriending Putin.
We wouldn't have a president that is seen around the world as an embarrassment and a buffoon.
We wouldn't have a US Senate with Reps that are scared of the president and allow him to disregard the constitution and collude with a foreign government to interfere in our elections.
We wouldn't have a president that is a pathological liar to the American people on an almost daily basis.
It's their money.
We over spend enough.
You can buy Health Insurance. Some better than others.
Medicine, Health Insurance, Homes Cars, living in America can be expensive.
Our relationship with our allies is good enough.
Democrats support terrorists. They do not like Americans.
Whatever the Democrats accuse the President of doing, the Democrats have already done, primarily as a vehicle to crush dissent, and accumulate power and control over our citizens.
They're deeply dishonest people and pathological liars with a profound and sickening hypocrisy.
This is not necessarily you, but broadly the philosophy of the Democrat Congress.
We over spend enough.
You can buy Health Insurance. Some better than others.
Medicine, Health Insurance, Homes Cars, living in America can be expensive.
Our relationship with our allies is good enough.
Democrats support terrorists. They do not like Americans.
Whatever the Democrats accuse the President of doing, the Democrats have already done, primarily as a vehicle to crush dissent, and accumulate power and control over our citizens.
They're deeply dishonest people and pathological liars with a profound and sickening hypocrisy.
This is not necessarily you, but broadly the philosophy of the Democrat Congress.
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OK let's have an adult conversation based on facts and not opinions, but it's over once you start degrading/insulting/stereotyping ALL Dems. I don't agree with all things Democrat or Republican, and do consider myself a moderate Dem. I dislike the far left and the far right. I dream of a moderate 3rd party.
Let's start at the top...the tax cut;
We've all heard the stats - the Top 1% own 50% of our nations wealth, and so on. The wealthy have accumulated their wealth using all of our tax dollars. We all provide them with an educated work force, public highways, bridges, airports, and so on, and they cause more wear and tear on our infrastructure than individuals and small businesses. Think about all the foreign companies with plants and businesses in the US taking advantage of our resources.
I'm sure you've heard this stat, and I'm not exact on this but you'll get the jest of it - In 1960 a CEO earned 3Xs the blue collar worker. Today it is something like 300Xs. Point being - the gap between the wealthiest people and the middle class continues to grow. This isn't about redistribution of wealth, it's about doing the right thing. The wealthiest should pay a higher percent of taxes and be thankful for the country we have all built and provided for them.
We continue to operate our country with a deficit and both parties are responsible. We do not need to add to the deficit by not taxing the wealthiest their fair share. Let's not forget that the Trump tax cut for the middle class is due to expire in 2025, while the tax cut for the wealthiest and corporations was written without an expiration date. How is that fair or right?
We have to stop spending $700 B/yr on defense - more than the next 11 nations combined are spending on defense, and 10Xs what we spend on education.
The Top 1% lifestyles are not going to be affected by a tax increase. Their grandchildren will never have to work. Meanwhile, the middle class are paying 15-20% of their income on health insurance alone.
And, lastly, have you ever thought about how many billionaires and mega rich live in MO? Guessing not many HA. The wealth is being accumulated on the coasts and financial/tech cities. Yet we all provide the goods and services, and the infrastructure that allows them to accumulate their wealth.
Let's start at the top...the tax cut;
We've all heard the stats - the Top 1% own 50% of our nations wealth, and so on. The wealthy have accumulated their wealth using all of our tax dollars. We all provide them with an educated work force, public highways, bridges, airports, and so on, and they cause more wear and tear on our infrastructure than individuals and small businesses. Think about all the foreign companies with plants and businesses in the US taking advantage of our resources.
I'm sure you've heard this stat, and I'm not exact on this but you'll get the jest of it - In 1960 a CEO earned 3Xs the blue collar worker. Today it is something like 300Xs. Point being - the gap between the wealthiest people and the middle class continues to grow. This isn't about redistribution of wealth, it's about doing the right thing. The wealthiest should pay a higher percent of taxes and be thankful for the country we have all built and provided for them.
We continue to operate our country with a deficit and both parties are responsible. We do not need to add to the deficit by not taxing the wealthiest their fair share. Let's not forget that the Trump tax cut for the middle class is due to expire in 2025, while the tax cut for the wealthiest and corporations was written without an expiration date. How is that fair or right?
We have to stop spending $700 B/yr on defense - more than the next 11 nations combined are spending on defense, and 10Xs what we spend on education.
The Top 1% lifestyles are not going to be affected by a tax increase. Their grandchildren will never have to work. Meanwhile, the middle class are paying 15-20% of their income on health insurance alone.
And, lastly, have you ever thought about how many billionaires and mega rich live in MO? Guessing not many HA. The wealth is being accumulated on the coasts and financial/tech cities. Yet we all provide the goods and services, and the infrastructure that allows them to accumulate their wealth.
Then what would be the point of trying to make as much money as you possibly could or trying to be an entrepreneur and kill it with your great idea?
You’re forcing people to settle for a 60k a year job whenever they could potentially make as much as they wanted. But would they want that when you’re going to tax the crap out of them?
You’re forcing people to settle for a 60k a year job whenever they could potentially make as much as they wanted. But would they want that when you’re going to tax the crap out of them?
Some of your points are valid criticisms on wealth inequality. However, your base position leaves out the evidence of the prosperity that is all around us. Without looking at that, and there are studies devoted too opening up your mind, you really can't address anything of value resulting in an adult conversation. I can't do it for you.
This is just a question, but should they all have to pay more? And are you talking CEO or the corporation overall?
I don't think they should pay less on income but companies provide jobs and with that they also provide taxes. I think if a company is providing a lot of jobs and paying a good wage and good benefits they should qualify for tax cuts maybe they don't pay any taxes if that money is put back into employee wages and benefits. Which in turn is good for the economy.
What bothers me is CEO pay, I don't think any CEO is worth $46 million a year, if their average employee is making say for example just making $18,000 a year and being a burden on the tax system because we have to provide alot of support for their employees, example food stamps. That company should pay more taxes, than say a company that the CEO is making just $2 or 3 million a year and they are paying the average employee $50,000 a year.
We need to rewrite the tax code so that companies have incentives to be good employers. Just my opinion, but we need to figure out how to encourage them to share a bit more of the wealth so that it helps the economy.
Have...have you looked at the NYC case count lately??? Especially when you consider how many people have it and haven't been tested? NYC will clearly have had six figures of cases occurring at once.
Did you just watch Cuomo live response just about an hour ago, he said they are doing okay at this point on ventilators. He even said yes he praised Trump when asked. But he said please take politics out of this.
That message is encouraging, but ventilators are needed for a long time and they're still diagnosing and admitting a lot of people.
It probably makes sense to not send tons of them there until they really need them.
I would gladly pay more in taxes if I was making $60,000,000 instead of $60,000.
I have no idea what you are talking about??? Are you saying you are open minded and I am not???
Yeah. I’m watching numbers a little too much. NY might get to 6 digits before too long but on an encouraging note they might have less new cases than yesterday.
Also I think the number of recovered cases will start to rise in NYC.
In the US at large it looks like the rate of spread and deaths per day MIGHT be leveling off. Need a couple more days data to see if a trend or it just a pause.
You'd be okay with paying at least 18 million in taxes every year? I highly doubt it.
I do fear that on a per capita basis that Louisiana is going to be the real hot spot. In 2-3 days they could be a real hot mess. Really Mardi Gras probably was an accelerant.
How long do we think it will take for those ventilators to get to the hospitals in NY?
He is trying to be prepared for what is coming for his state.
At least he is attempting to be ready.
He is trying to be prepared for what is coming for his state.
At least he is attempting to be ready.
Are you kidding me???? Gross $60 M, take home $42 M, sign me up!!!!!!
The real question is what percent should the total tax rate be on mega rich (billionaires?)? Is 40% federal, 15% state, County, property, sales, enough or do we need more?
Wealth inequality. Gap between middle class and the wealthy. Using statistics from the 1960s as a comparison. Doing the right thing. Grandchildren will never have to work. You used wealth and synonyms for wealth 8 times. You sound like Bernie. Its boring. Use the BEA studies. Think about the improvements in the standard of living and opportunities for the middle class since the 1970s. You won't be mislead or as pessimistic when you hear Dem. Presidential candidates harp on a hollowed out middle class.
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Very, very difficult to conclude the US is leveling off until we ramp up testing more. We're testing about 100k people a day and we've been in that ballpark for days. We can't determine this until we try to measure it.
I'd be more optimistic if the rate of tests that are positive were declining like we're seeing now in Italy.
The topic was taxes for the wealthy. Kind of hard to discuss without using the word "wealth".
You say read a study you handpicked. I could do the same.
Sure, I agree our overall standard of living has improved. We could say the same thing worldwide. Most people have electricity and running water. But we don't have to look any farther than southern MO, a rep. stronghold BTW, to see some of the poorest counties in the state.
It's common sense to acknowlege there is poverty. If taxes were the answer to poverty and wealth inequality, that would be great. If what you mean is Corp. should keep less of what they earn, and pay the workers more. Fine. I get it. Sorry for the confusion.
In our two counties you cannot get tested unless you want to go into Springfield. And currently with what is going on there I think if my symptoms are mild I would rather take my chances at home. The one case we did have test positive had to drive to Springfield to a private lab and they were doing just as a precaution. I don't understand how ever county does not have any test kits yet. That just blows my mind.
"with what's going on up there"????
I go to Spfld every day and wasn't aware something was going on up there.
The wealth gap and wealth inequality are terms used to pander. The FACT that everyones standard of living has gone up shows that "trickle down" has happened and will continue if we allow the wealthy to aspire. Why does it matter how much someone else has unless they stole it from me?
The pharma companies are gonna get tax benefits to bring medical production back to the U S from China and the howling will commence.
Really, yeah, I'd probably just lock myself in a room for 2 weeks if I developed a cough and didn't need real treatment.
This morning, the Greene county health dept showed 53 positive tests with 16 needing hospitalization and 10 of those 16 had now been deemed healthy. That leaves 6 but 6 have died that I assume were hospitalized at some point. That would leave ZERO hospitalized patients with Covid 19 in Greene county (i've been told by people working in Cox there are zero there). I'm pretty sure all 6 deaths were aging facility residents that no one would have been shocked by their deaths even without the virus. I can't understand the talk of converting JQH into a hospital if we don't have any patients.
All the small clinics have drive thru tests around my county. I went to the Dr 2 weeks ago and the check in was like the movie Contagion
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