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New Spin. Cuomo is a star.

I've believed for a while now the Dems used Biden to unite around to stop Bernie but would ultimately use the convention to install someone else. Cuomo appears to be their great hope. This shutdown will likely be the tool used to do it.

Biden simply can't be the nominee. Gaffes are one thing but, half the time you can't even tell what Biden was trying to say. When he says what he thinks, you think he is out of his mind.
 
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I've believed for a while now the Dems used Biden to unite around to stop Bernie but would ultimately use the convention to install someone else. Cuomo appears to be their great hope. This shutdown will likely be the tool used to do it.

Biden simply can't be the nominee. Gaffes are one thing but, half the time you can't even tell what Biden was trying to say. When he says what he thinks, you think he is out of his mind.
Yes. He's the scheme now. He's on tape saying the Whitehouse has given him everything, now he is pretending the WH has a store room of ventilators.
 
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I think for the most part a Cuomo has done a pretty good job in this crisis and while Biden foes and says weird thing in his sisterwifes basement Cuomo has been front and center.

Cuomo isn’t on the ballet though. Biden is going to be the nominee unless a bunch of people start voting for Bernie.
 
Right now, Trump has sucked all the air out of this thing and Biden is irrelevant. It isn't really his fault, no one is talking about the election. This is really the best thing for Biden since stumping isn't what he needs to be doing or in his best interests. I just can't see him making it to election day as the nominee. It would be a worse slaughter than Bernie.
 
Right now, Trump has sucked all the air out of this thing and Biden is irrelevant. It isn't really his fault, no one is talking about the election. This is really the best thing for Biden since stumping isn't what he needs to be doing or in his best interests. I just can't see him making it to election day as the nominee. It would be a worse slaughter than Bernie.

The election isn’t for months. What we will learn is the election process doesn’t need to be that long. There should be able to be the remaining Dem primaries in June. Biden is a train wreck but besides Cuomo there is no other Democrat getting any good press. Had this happened prior to Super Tuesday I could have seen another candidate get drafted. If Biden were to drop out then Bernie would expect the nomination as would his supporters.
 
The election isn’t for months. What we will learn is the election process doesn’t need to be that long. There should be able to be the remaining Dem primaries in June. Biden is a train wreck but besides Cuomo there is no other Democrat getting any good press. Had this happened prior to Super Tuesday I could have seen another candidate get drafted. If Biden were to drop out then Bernie would expect the nomination as would his supporters.
Expect....yes. Get.....no.
 
Obv it is the main transportation system, but wouldn’t it make sense to have shut down the subway system? Close quarters, crowded full of people, dirty, etc. A virus’s dream hangout one would think.
 
A whole another argument, but food for thought. Gov is mad (understandably) saying

“What am I going to do with 400 ventilators when I need 30,000?” he said later. “You pick the 26,000 people who are going to die because you only sent 400 ventilators.”

Kind of ironic coming from the guy who ordered skyscrapers lit in pink in celebrating the new reproductive health care act about a year ago?
 
I think for the most part a Cuomo has done a pretty good job in this crisis and while Biden foes and says weird thing in his sisterwifes basement Cuomo has been front and center.

Cuomo isn’t on the ballet though. Biden is going to be the nominee unless a bunch of people start voting for Bernie.

LOL Cuomo wouldn't let the mayor of New York order a shelter in place, I remember watching him say only he had the power to make that decision. If he would have stayed out of it and let the Mayor make that order New York probable would not be in the issue they are now.

So Cuomo owns what is going on in New York city now, He wants to blame Trump now all he had to do is let the mayor make the order.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny-gov-cuomo-says-no-new-york-city-s-shelter-n1162911
 
LOL Cuomo wouldn't let the mayor of New York order a shelter in place, I remember watching him say only he had the power to make that decision. If he would have stayed out of it and let the Mayor make that order New York probable would not be in the issue they are now.

So Cuomo owns what is going on in New York city now, He wants to blame Trump now all he had to do is let the mayor make the order.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny-gov-cuomo-says-no-new-york-city-s-shelter-n1162911
Gavin Newsome and LA Mayor are not blaming Trump yet. WTH.
 
Cuomo and Trump are saying the same things. The media is kicking Trumps arse, they're kissing Cuomos arse.
How are they saying the same thing? Trump says he doesn't beleive they need 30,000 ventilators. He will NEVER admit when he's wrong!
 
Niether of us know.
I don't have to know, I could NOTHING about if I did. Trump doesn't have to know but he should have someone telling him the facts that does know instead of brushing it off because the governors aren't aways gushing over him.
 
How are they saying the same thing? Trump says he doesn't beleive they need 30,000 ventilators. He will NEVER admit when he's wrong!

BBC article that anticipates that the UK will need 30,000 ventilators at the peak of the outbreak, nationwide. Unless NY has about 350,000 cases occurring simultaneously they will not likely need that many ventilators. At worst Trump is being optimistic but he is probably correct.
 
BBC article that anticipates that the UK will need 30,000 ventilators at the peak of the outbreak, nationwide. Unless NY has about 350,000 cases occurring simultaneously they will not likely need that many ventilators. At worst Trump is being optimistic but he is probably correct.
What I heard today is the issue is this virus requires up to 20 days on a vent, most issues they are used for require about a week. That means one is tied up for a longer time so you will need more to keep up with it. I ain't a governor or a doctor so I don't know but I doubt Cuomo just pulled this number out of thin air.
 
What I heard today is the issue is this virus requires up to 20 days on a vent, most issues they are used for require about a week. That means one is tied up for a longer time so you will need more to keep up with it. I ain't a governor or a doctor so I don't know but I doubt Cuomo just pulled this number out of thin air.
Cuomo sort of admitted today that he did.
 
I don't have to know, I could NOTHING about if I did. Trump doesn't have to know but he should have someone telling him the facts that does know instead of brushing it off because the governors aren't aways gushing over him.
I don't know. You don't know either.
 
“Somebody said one of the cable news shows, the ventilators that New York needed aren’t even being deployed — they’re in a stockpile,” Cuomo said, paraphrasing Birx’s comments without naming her.

“Yes they’re in a stockpile because that’s where they’re supposed to be because we don’t need them yet. We need them for the apex. The apex isn’t here so we’re gathering them in the stockpile so when we need them they will be there,” Cuomo said.

So the ones they needed so bad are being kept in a stockpile in case they need them....
 
“Somebody said one of the cable news shows, the ventilators that New York needed aren’t even being deployed — they’re in a stockpile,” Cuomo said, paraphrasing Birx’s comments without naming her.

“Yes they’re in a stockpile because that’s where they’re supposed to be because we don’t need them yet. We need them for the apex. The apex isn’t here so we’re gathering them in the stockpile so when we need them they will be there,” Cuomo said.

So the ones they needed so bad are being kept in a stockpile in case they need them....
You have heard a whole bunch of stuff I haven't but like I said yard work for other people and GunSmoke reruns on TV have taken priority for me on good weather days. :D
 
I was doin stuff outside today. Guess I missed that one but I'd bet 30,000 will be lot closer to the number than 4000.
IF you were open to the truth, Trump didn't say they wouldn't need 30,000 but they don't need 30,000. The ones they got (4000) aren't being used yet and another 4000 are on the way.
 
"IF you were open to the truth" - that's hilarious coming from a trumper. He can't tell the truth and only speaks in fictional Donaldland.
 
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IF you were open to the truth, Trump didn't say they wouldn't need 30,000 but they don't need 30,000. The ones they got (4000) aren't being used yet and another 4000 are on the way.
Trump absolutely did say he doesn't think they need 30,000 on tv for all to see at the time or on replay later.
 
Trump absolutely did say he doesn't think they need 30,000 on tv for all to see at the time or on replay later.
Once AGAIN, he said they didn't.....and the don't! He didn't say they won't. But, you aren't interested in the truth.
 
Once AGAIN, he said they didn't.....and the don't! He didn't say they won't. But, you aren't interested in the truth.
I don't care what else happened, he did say he doesn't think they need them which what you were telling me didn't happen. It remains to be seen if they do or not. YOU don't know nor do I. Time for me mow grass by day, if it ever stops raining every day or two, and watch old westerns at night. Too much of this stuff is bad for my health and well being.
 
I don't care what else happened, he did say he doesn't think they need them which what you were telling me didn't happen. It remains to be seen if they do or not. YOU don't know nor do I. Time for me mow grass by day, if it ever stops raining every day or two, and watch old westerns at night. Too much of this stuff is bad for my health and well being.
No, I said he said they DON'T need them. How can they need them if they haven't used what they have?
Neither Trump nor I have said they WON'T need them. That doesn't matter to you though.
 
It's hilarious that Democrats lost to Donald.

It's sad that people are actually proud that they voted for a habitual liar, bigot, sexist, narcissistic, spoiled con man. I'm embarrassed to say he is US president, and every moral person should be ashamed if they vote for him.
 
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It's sad that people are actually proud that they voted for a habitual liar, bigot, sexist, narcissistic, spoiled con man. I'm embarrassed to say he is US president, and every moral person should be ashamed if they vote for him.
Tell us something new. Tell me how it would different if Donald were not President.
 
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