New 2020 class breakdown classes 6,5,4

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

This what it could look like when playoffs come along. 32 in 6 51 in Classes 2-5 and 64 in class 1. Class 2-5 divided equally to 51 in each class.

There is 271 schools playing now and 29 schools possibly going to play. 21 schools playing in the spring.

* Private Schools

Class 6 (32)
*Rockurst
*St Louis University
Blue Springs
Marquette
Lindbergh
Joplin
CBC
Lee Summit West
Blue Springs South
Park Hill
Rock Bridge
Liberty North
Troy Buchanan
Raymore-Pec
Kickapoo
Liberty
Ft Zumwalt West
Francis Howell Central
Holt
Timberland
*DeSmet
Francis Howell
Lee Summit North
Northwest (Ceder Hill)
Lafayette (Wildwood)
Hickman
Kirkwood
Lee Summit
Central ( St Joseph)
Nixa
Fox
Staley

Class 5 (52)
Ozark
Eureka
Francis Howell north
Oakville
Parkway South
N Kansas city
Seckman
Park Hill South
Waynesville
Oak Park
Jackson
Truman
Central (Springfield)
Ft Zumwalt north
Popular Bluff
Battle
Ft Osage
Mehlville
Carthage
Raytown
Smith-Cotton
Republic
Jeff City
Capital City
Branson
Parkway West
Glendale
Parkview
William Chrisman
Ft Zumwalt South
Webster Groves
Belton
Liberty (Wentzville)
Willard
Lebanon
Parkway Central
Camdenton
Grain Valley
Webb City
Rockwood Summit
Ft Zumwalt East
Washington
Ladue
Ruskin
Grandview
Neosho
Central (Cape Giradueu)
Rolla
Farmington
Platte County
* Vianney Up 1
* Chaminade Up 1

Class 4 (52)
Kearney
Raytown South
Winnetonka
E (Kcity)
Parkway North
Hillcrest
Hillsboro
McDonald County
West Plains
Hannibal
Van Horn
Carl Junction
Union
Sikeston
Warrenton
Warrensburg
Marshfield
Desoto
North County
Clayton
Smithville
Festus
Pacific
Windsor (Imperial)
St Charles
Lincoln College Prep
Harrisonville
Lafayette (St Joseph)
Bolivar
Excelsior Springs
Marshall
*Helias
Kirksville
Monett
Moberly
Center
Benton
Sullivan
Mexico
Perryville
Nevada
*Westminster Christian
Logan Rogerville
Fulton
Savannah
*St Dominic
St Clair
St Charles West
* St Mary's
Northeast (KCity)
* Trinity Up 1
* John Burroughs up 1

 

[HoopsTournament]

With 300 schools, there would be:

60 in C1
52 in C2-C5 each
32 in C6

 

[Treadmill]

I thought they were going to have the top 32 in class 6, the bottom 20% in class 1, and the remaining 4 classes divided equally?

 

[HoopsTournament]

Also if there are 271, then the breakdown would be:

C1:54
C2-C5: 46-47
C6:32

 

[HoopsTournament]

I thought they were going to have the top 32 in class 6, the bottom 20% in class 1, and the remaining 4 classes divided equally?

That is correct.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

I updated it where 4 and 5 is 52 teams

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

This is what Class 6 Districts could look like.

I'm really uncertain if Jeff City will be 5 or 6.

District 1
CBC
DeSmet
Lafayette (Wildwood)
Marquette
SLUH
Kirkwood
Lindbergh
Fox

District 2
Raymore-Pec
Lee Summit
Lee Summit West
Lee Summit North
Joplin
Kickapoo
Nixa
Northwest (Cedar Hill)

District 3
Francis Howell
Francis Howell Central
Ft Zumwalt West
Timberland
Holt
Troy
Rock Bridge
Hickman

District 4
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill
Rockhurst
Staley
Central ( St Joseph)

 

[WhaleThen]

This just got a lot messier

 

[Cheetah King]

This just got a lot messier

Absolutely. Once you take out all the St Louis schools there will be a pretty big shift. I’m guessing that removes All of District 1 from Class 6.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

If I was mshsaa I keep class 6 the 22 teams that playing now.if they move up 10 class 5 schools they're be a huge enrollment from the top to the bottom end of the enrollment.

 

[CaptainMullet]

Also i believe there's a clause that the difference between top and the bottom of a class couldnt been more than double the enrollment of the smallest team. What a weird year.

 

[Mofan79]

Also i believe there's a clause that the difference between top and the bottom of a class couldnt been more than double the enrollment of the smallest team. What a weird year.

looking at the enrollment numbers you would have to go down to class 4 to find a team with less than half so that shouldn't matter

 

[TheParkmont]

Are we even going to have six classes?

 

[TheParkmont]

This is what Class 6 Districts could look like.

I'm really uncertain if Jeff City will be 5 or 6.

District 1
CBC
DeSmet
Lafayette (Wildwood)
Marquette
SLUH
Kirkwood
Lindbergh
Fox

District 2
Raymore-Pec
Lee Summit
Lee Summit West
Lee Summit North
Joplin
Kickapoo
Nixa
Northwest (Cedar Hill)

District 3
Francis Howell
Francis Howell Central
Ft Zumwalt West
Timberland
Holt
Troy
Rock Bridge
Hickman

District 4
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill
Rockhurst
Staley
Central ( St Joseph)

One school in District one is left

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

This is what it could look like after the news today


Class 6 (32)
Rockurst 2055
Blue Springs
Joplin
Lee Summit West
Blue Springs South
Park Hill
Rock Bridge
Liberty North
Troy Buchanan
Raymore-Pec
Kickapoo
Liberty
Ft Zumwalt West
Francis Howell Central
Holt
Timberland
Francis Howell
Lee Summit North
Northwest (Ceder Hill)
Hickman
Lee Summit
Central ( St Joseph)
Nixa
Fox
Staley
Ozark
Francis Howell north
N Kansas city
Seckman
Park Hill South
Waynesville
Oak Park 1201

Class 5 (46)
Jackson 1178
Truman
Central (Springfield)
Ft Zumwalt north
Popular Bluff
Battle
Ft Osage
Carthage
Raytown
Smith-Cotton
Republic
Jeff City
Capital City
Branson
Glendale
Parkview
William Chrisman
Belton
Liberty (Wentzville)
Willard
Lebanon
Camdenton
Grain Valley
Webb City
Ft Zumwalt East
Washington
Ruskin
Grandview
Neosho
Central (Cape Giradueu)
Rolla
Farmington
Platte County
Kearney
Raytown South
Winnetonka
E (Kcity)
Hillcrest
Hillsboro
McDonald County
West Plains
Hannibal
Van Horn
Carl Junction
Union
Sikeston 717

Class 4 (46)
Warrenton 716
Warrensburg
Marshfield
Desoto
North County
Smithville
Festus
Pacific
Windsor (Imperial)
St Charles
Lincoln College Prep
Harrisonville
Lafayette (St Joseph)
Bolivar
Excelsior Springs
Marshall
*Helias
Kirksville
Monett
Moberly
Center
Benton
Sullivan
Mexico
Perryville
Nevada
Logan Rogerville
Fulton
Savannah
*St Dominic
St Clair
St Charles West
Northeast(KCity)
Pleasant Hill
Potosi
central ( Park hills)
Odessa
Oak Grove
Ste Genevieve
Salem
Osage
Cassville
Reed Springs
Owensville
Boonville
Dexter 427

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

Possibly going to 5 but don't see it happening

Top school would be Rockurst around 2055 students

Small school Camdenton around 1000 students

Are we even going to have six classes?

 

[Mofan79]

Might as well go to 5 classes with 54 apiece and class 1 as the catch all

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

Class 5 (54)
Rockurst
Blue Springs
Joplin
Lee Summit West
Blue Springs South
Park Hill
Rock Bridge
Liberty North
Troy Buchanan
Raymore-Pec
Kickapoo
Liberty
Ft Zumwalt West
Francis Howell Central
Holt
Timberland
Francis Howell
Lee Summit North
Northwest (Ceder Hill)
Hickman
Lee Summit
Central ( St Joseph)
Nixa
Fox
Staley
Ozark
Francis Howell north
N Kansas city
Seckman
Park Hill South
Waynesville
Oak Park
Jackson
Truman
Central (Springfield)
Ft Zumwalt north
Popular Bluff
Battle
Ft Osage
Carthage
Raytown
Smith-Cotton
Republic
Jeff City
Capital City
Branson
Glendale
Parkview
William Chrisman
Belton
Ft Zumwalt South
Liberty (Wentzville)
Willard
Lebanon

Class 4 (54)
Camdenton
Grain Valley
Webb City
Ft Zumwalt East
Washington
Ruskin
Grandview
Neosho
Central (Cape Giradueu)
Rolla
Farmington
Platte County
Kearney
Raytown South
Winnetonka
E (Kcity)
Hillcrest
Hillsboro
McDonald County
West Plains
Hannibal
Van Horn
Carl Junction
Union
Sikeston
Warrenton
Warrensburg
Marshfield
Desoto
North County
Smithville
Festus
Pacific
Windsor (Imperial)
St Charles
Lincoln College Prep
Harrisonville
Lafayette (St Joseph)
Bolivar
Excelsior Springs
Marshall
*Helias
Kirksville
Monett
Moberly
Center
Benton
Sullivan
Mexico
Perryville
Nevada
Logan Rogerville
Fulton
Savannah

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

I really see 4 team districts coming back just for this year

 

[Treadmill]

I really see 4 team districts coming back just for this year

This is a good idea.

 

[HoopsTournament]

p. 128 of https://www.mshsaa.org/resources/pdf/Official Handbook.pdf

2020-21 Classification Procedures:
1. Official Enrollments Finalized and Registrations Reviewed: Enrollments declared and finalized; enrollments are combined
for the schools in Cooperative Sponsorships (sport/activity specific). For the sports of basketball, cross country, and track/field,
determine which gender has more registrations, and begin Step 2 with that gender. (See By-Law 5.1.8)
2. Break into Last Year’s Classes: In enrollment order, place the current year’s registered schools a) into the same number
of classes as the prior year, and b) into the same numbers per class as the prior year (for 2020-21, this will depend on the
enrollment break system utilized during 2019-20).
3. 2.0 Differential Review: Calculate the enrollment differential for each class by dividing the largest school’s enrollment by the
smallest school’s enrollment. Determine if the differential for each class, other than Class 1, is 2.0 or below (differentials from 2.01 to 2.04 will be rounded down to 2.0). If all classes above Class 1 have a differential of 2.0 or less, the number of classes are final (end of procedure, see Step 7). If any class’s differential (other than Class 1) is greater than 2.0, the number of schools in the upper classes should be adjusted to see if, by moving schools down from a larger class into a smaller class, all differentials can be made to meet the 2.0 limit. Moving up from Class 1, the class counts should either be equal to the number in Class 1 or the count should decrease as the class number increases (preserving an equal or waterfall approach) AND all differentials, other than Class 1, should be at 2.0 or below. If this is successful, the procedure ends; see Step 7.
4. Efforts to Stay Consistent: Attempts will be made to adjust the class lines and the numbers in the classes while maintaining the 2.0 differential BEFORE adding a class. (See Classification Note h.) If this is not possible, move to Step 5.
Page 126 2020-21 MSHSAA OFFICIAL HANDBOOK

5. Add a Class: Increase the number of classes by one and place up to the applicable percentage of the total schools in the sport/activity into Class 1. (See also Notes a and b).
Max percentage of total to place in Class 1
Number of Classes after adding a class
Now 2 classes
70%
Now 3 classes
50%
Now 4 classes
30%
Now 5 lasses
25%
Now 6 classes
20%

6. Percentage in Class 1 and Equally Divide the Rest: Equally distribute the remaining percentage of schools into the rest of the classes above Class 1. Return to Step 3 and review the differentials. Repeat as needed until the number of classes is finalized.
7. Ties: Enrollment ties across a class break will be ignored until after the Championship Factor has reclassified schools, due to those changes solving most ties.
8. Championship Factor Review and Adjustments: Move to Championship Factor section below for this second step of the classification process.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Classification Notes:
a. The maximum number of schools in a class for football is 64.
b. The maximum number of schools in a class for team sports is 128, and the minimum number of schools in a class for team
sports is 32, with the exception of 8-man football (See Note c).
c. 8-Man football: MSHSAA shall sponsor an 8-man football championship playoff as long as a minimum of 24 schools and/
or cooperative sponsorships are registered. The total enrollment of participating schools or co-ops must be 150 or less
(grades 9,10,11).

 

[HoopsTournament]

Based on this, I still think Class 6 will have 32 as long as there are 32 schools with 1005 or more people (multiplier of 2.04 rounded down to 2.0). Going to 4 or 5 classes will violate the 2.0 rule, so I don’t think that will happen.

 

[HoopsTournament]

The other thing to note is that teams are placed based on enrollment before moving based on championship factor. If a team is moved due to championship factor, this does not move another team down.

 

[CaptainMullet]

This is a good idea.

Would you have teams cancel week 8 and 9 games to do this?

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

This is based off of last year enrollment numbers. I removed all 10 St Louis County schools and add the next 10 class 5 schools

This is what Class 6 Districts could look like.

I'm really uncertain if Jeff City will be 5 or 6.

District 1
Troy
Holt
Timberland
Ft Zumwalt West
Francis Howell Central
Francis Howell
Francis Howell North
Hickman or Rock Bridge


District 2
Liberty
Park Hill
Liberty North
Staley
Park Hill South
Central (St Joseph)
North (Kansas City)
Oak Park

District 3
Joplin
Kickapoo
Northwest (Ceder Hill)
Fox
Nixa
Ozark
Seckman
Waynesville

District 4
Rockhurst
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Lee Summit
Lee Summit West
Lee Summit North
Raymore-Pec
Rock Bridge or Hickman

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Possibly going to 5 but don't see it happening

Top school would be Rockurst around 2055 students

Small school Camdenton around 1000 students

Camdenton is considerably larger than 1000. More like the 1200-1300 range. Then again, you might be talking just 10-12 enrollment. If so, my bad.

 

[panther72]

Last year's Rockhurst number also has the 1.35 multiplier. Real largest school is probably Blue Springs.

 

[sw5890]

This is what it could look like after the news today


Class 6 (32)
Rockurst 2055
Blue Springs
Joplin
Lee Summit West
Blue Springs South
Park Hill
Rock Bridge
Liberty North
Troy Buchanan
Raymore-Pec
Kickapoo
Liberty
Ft Zumwalt West
Francis Howell Central
Holt
Timberland
Francis Howell
Lee Summit North
Northwest (Ceder Hill)
Hickman
Lee Summit
Central ( St Joseph)
Nixa
Fox
Staley
Ozark
Francis Howell north
N Kansas city
Seckman
Park Hill South
Waynesville
Oak Park 1201

Class 5 (46)
Jackson 1178
Truman
Central (Springfield)
Ft Zumwalt north
Popular Bluff
Battle
Ft Osage
Carthage
Raytown
Smith-Cotton
Republic
Jeff City
Capital City
Branson
Glendale
Parkview
William Chrisman
Belton
Liberty (Wentzville)
Willard
Lebanon
Camdenton
Grain Valley
Webb City
Ft Zumwalt East
Washington
Ruskin
Grandview
Neosho
Central (Cape Giradueu)
Rolla
Farmington
Platte County
Kearney
Raytown South
Winnetonka
E (Kcity)
Hillcrest
Hillsboro
McDonald County
West Plains
Hannibal
Van Horn
Carl Junction
Union
Sikeston 717

Class 4 (46)
Warrenton 716
Warrensburg
Marshfield
Desoto
North County
Smithville
Festus
Pacific
Windsor (Imperial)
St Charles
Lincoln College Prep
Harrisonville
Lafayette (St Joseph)
Bolivar
Excelsior Springs
Marshall
*Helias
Kirksville
Monett
Moberly
Center
Benton
Sullivan
Mexico
Perryville
Nevada
Logan Rogerville
Fulton
Savannah
*St Dominic
St Clair
St Charles West
Northeast(KCity)
Pleasant Hill
Potosi
central ( Park hills)
Odessa
Oak Grove
Ste Genevieve
Salem
Osage
Cassville
Reed Springs
Owensville
Boonville
Dexter 427

Lol the Carl Junction Bulldog fans would really be cursing 2020. Their team is back on track for success AND WC is finally out of their classification. But because of covid, STL schools cancel season which disrupts the entire classification scheme and causes them to ALSO be bumped up.

 

[HBL Pirates fan_1990]

Sir thanks for reminding me rockhurst is a private school. Blue Springs will be the largest school with that being said I definitely see it being 5 classes with they release the Classes in couple weeks.

@sw5890 based on the current classification procedures if it stays 32 in 6 20% in class 1 and Dividely between classes 2-5 Carl junction, Hannibal, West Plains, and Kearney will also moved up to class 5

Last year's Rockhurst number also has the 1.35 multiplier. Real largest school is probably Blue Springs.

 

[AC100]

Lol the Carl Junction Bulldog fans would really be cursing 2020. Their team is back on track for success AND WC is finally out of their classification. But because of covid, STL schools cancel season which disrupts the entire classification scheme and causes them to ALSO be bumped up.

Damn Sam Page

 

[HoopsTournament]

Sir thanks for reminding me rockhurst is a private school. Blue Springs will be the largest school with that being said I definitely see it being 5 classes with they release the Classes in couple weeks.

@sw5890 based on the current classification procedures if it stays 32 in 6 20% in class 1 and Dividely between classes 2-5 Carl junction, Hannibal, West Plains, and Kearney will also moved up to class 5

Unless they change the bylaws, it will be 6 classes.