My bro in law's rumor. Longoria, Archer, Colome
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Given the comments from Matheny about trying to get Piscotty home by his mom, that seems really unlikely.
Don't want him at the cost they want. I'll take my chances what they have currently. Hell, there is a chance they could trade for Salazar.
I'm fine wth the Heyward overpay. He doesn't hurt any future contracts, given that the key pieces are under control for a while
They have also been in a position where the farm system gave them loads of wins and payroll room. Player development has been exceptional to be sure. But the tougher decisions for the GM probably lie ahead when the core costs 50-75 M more a year.
I seriously wonder what type of package it'd take to get Colome/Archer/Longoria. I know Longoria is a salary dump, and definitely not an attractive piece. Which I assume would lessen the haul for the Rays. But still have to think it'd be significant. I just have no idea what it is.
That seems like a good guess right now, doesn't it? Surely Jose. And then they need someone who can play CF.
You're getting a salary dump in Longoria. However, you're getting two pitchers with control for a while at a cheap rate.
You're dumping the farm for that
Archer has 4 years, $34M remaining with 2 additional club years
Colome is a $540K, going into Arb 1
Gimmie names that don't include Reyes. Weaver/Flaherty/Bader (Kelley) enough??? You have to throw in Gomber or Hudson too? I just have zero clue on stuff like this.
The first deal I'd be all in for. The second one, I'd struggle with. Which would tell me that I'm closer on the second than the first.
Tough to imagine it without one of the big 3 pitching prospects as a start. Two of them is probably too much. Probably somewhere in the middle, like Weaver/Bader/another Bader-level prospect like Gomber. They might also want a project like Grichuk
Just to be 100% level with you
I don't think you ever see Archer without moving Reyes
As long Pham and Fowler stay healthy you can rotate them in CF for days off.
I agree with Cards. Once you get beyond Colome I think the price will be too much for Gurst or MO or whoever is the deal maker to swallow
But, just to try it out.....based somewhat on what the Cubs trade for Garza looked like, but you're going to have to deal more for Colome to be involved
Flaherty, O'Neill/Bader(your pick), Perez, Grichuk & Kelly. That might get you a conversation going
I think Mo would not do that unless he got someone better than Archer. Being realistic here.
There's also a huge opportunity cost question here. Ozuna's cost was pretty clearly acceptable to the Cards. But they do have a number of places they could improve - not just SP. The cost of Archer needs to be good enough to be more acceptable than the cost to the Birds of, say, Donaldson.
Fowler is liable to spend 2 months on the DL, there needs to be some plan for another CF. Maybe that is the sixth OF from Memphis.
There's still a lot of chatter that the Birds are strong on Wade Davis. I wonder if that affects their willingness to trade for Colome.
I'm not talking Archer straight up. But in a package deal that also includes Colome just hitting Arbitration...... maybe Reyes stays, but you're throwing in an extra body from your top 10
That's way too much. Look at the Sale and Quintana trades for more recent examples.
that's still way too much, Colome isn't that good and his value declines every year with arb awards.
I wouldn't trade Kelly straight up for Colome.
He's better than what you currently have and the Rays have no reason to move him. That is the issue you face.
And the guy had a 1.91 ERA with a sub 3 FIP in 2016. Was still respectable last season facing the AL East. He's not Jansen, but he's far from bad
Yep. No doubt Fowler will miss time and I'm not sold on Pham for more than 130 games or him putting together a season like he did last year so anticipate the Memphis shuttle for Bader depending on where he is at on the number of times he can move .
I think the bigger issue is actually Archer - there were a ton of relievers out there in FA. SP class is terrible. Cards can't be the only team who'd like someone like Archer.
Colome is less valuable in an offseason where teams could sign guys like Wade Davis, Yusmeiro Petit, etc.
The guys I listed above are not even remotely close to the same value as Moncada & Kopech.....And the Red Sox gave up more than that
I literally tried to replace VB once and was DFA'd 9 months later. Sad. 
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