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I've seen Montgomery, I'm surprised it was only 5 fouls. Their idea of defense is giving up a lay-up and then running down the court and shooing a 3. Unless there are some upsets, Montgomery will have to go through Monroe City and Cardinal Ritter. I haven't seen Monroe City, but I have seen Ritter, good luck with that.
Well there are Contenders and Pretenders. Max Prep sports has their strength of schedule at -2.1 and they are in one of the weakest districts in class 3, sometimes things just fall your way. Montgomery has wins, but no quality wins.
Only time will tell if Montgomery County will be contenders. I don't feel the need to defend the team, the conference they play in, or the district they are in but I guess I will. EMO doesn't have a powerhouse in it that everyone talks about every year or that gets ranked right out of the gate. They do play solid basketball and a conference championship is a big deal because it gets passed around a lot, not being won by anyone in particular. The last time was 92 for Montgomery County. To win a district is a huge deal because that area normally has private schools that they have to compete against. 2014 they won a district title for the first time since the 70s and had to play state champs Cardinal Ritter in the first round. They are fun to watch, good sportsmen, work extremely hard and are having a great season. My question is why do you, Pure Swing, feel the need to pee on this teams parade?
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It sounds to me like Pure Swing is a little insecure. I cant say I've ever heard someone complain so much about another teams style of winning.. I could be wrong but isn't the point of the game to win? Let me guess you must believe in participation trophy's.
Probably won't let kids play in his yard either.
It's obvious some purists don't like that style of play. Personally, if I've got no dog in the fight, I'd rather watch UK or UCLA than UVA. Those old LMU teams were just beyond fun to watch.He is probably a purist. Pure Swing probably thinks the chest pass is an art form. Bottom line, Montgomery County has been winning a lot of games. Since they brought this coach on for the last 4 seasons the teams record is 69-32, not bad for a defensive game plan of giving up 2s and shooting 3s
I think your record the last 4 years has more to do with your schedule, than the style of play.
If trying to stop the other team from trying to score makes me a purists, then I guess that's what I am.
If trying to stop the other team from trying to score makes me a purists, then I guess that's what I am.
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I remember the year Loyola Marymount beat defending champion Michigan by 30 points playing that style of play. I'm not comparing Montgomery county to Loyola by any means, but let's remember this is high school basketball and the game is meant to be fun .
You left out the part where UNLV beat Marymount 131-101 two games later. They scored 101 points and lost by 30.
I just think good teams play on both ends of the floor, i'm just a purists.
I just think good teams play on both ends of the floor, i'm just a purists.
You mean the same UNLV team that crushed Duke by 30 in the NC game? The same UNLV team that's arguably one of the best college teams ever assembled? Sweet job cherry picking that example.
There isn't anything wrong with being a purist, but there also isn't anything wrong with having fun with the game. This isn't the pros. A person can sit in the stands and always 2nd guess or pick apart things that are done or not done. The question that needs to be asked is.....as a coach am I giving my kids the best chance to succeed when they take the court?
I find it refreshing someone will take a different approach. What a lot of people have called defense the past 20 years would be called mugging outside the gym.
To be honest, they did that most of the season. What happened to them in the UNLV game (without Gathers, btw) only happened five or six times that year. And was the only blowout. Which one is the anomaly?
To be honest WCS Coach cherry picked the example of Marymout beating Michigan. The death of Hank Gathers played a big part in Marymount's run.
I feel like I'm getting dumber here. Help me out. All he said was he remembered when they won that particular game playing that style. No reference to anything other than he remembered it happening. Certainly didn't seem to be advocating that it's easier to win that way. Then you reference the game against UNLV, their only blowout loss of the year to the eventual National Champion. Again I'll ask...Who cherry picked the anomaly?
I'm sorry, I should have said, I remember when UNLV beat Marymount.
If you don't understand that team was playing for Gathers, then I can't help you.
If you don't understand that team was playing for Gathers, then I can't help you.
Whether they were playing for him or not, they were missing an All-American and their best player. And don't pretend the run couldn't have happened without him. They were ranked most of the year, or at least a good portion of it. They played UNLV's wheels off in the opener, took LSU to OT, and lost a close (ended up being 15, but my memory tells me it was close throughout) one to OU. All ranked and all REALLY good teams. It's not like this came from nowhere.
Let me be clear, I'm not advocating that teams should not play defense and just run and gun. I'm saying that there are other ways to win basketball games, and I find it more enjoyable to watch an up-tempo game than the constant mugging that a lot of coaches, fans, and unfortunately officials want to call defense these days.
One other point about Loyola Marymount . That was a top 10 team before Hank Gathers went out with his heart ailment that eventually claimed his life in their conference tournament. They could play with anyone in the country, including the premier programs with all the blue-chip recruits. I would've loved to have seen that team play in the NCAA tournament.
One other point about Loyola Marymount . That was a top 10 team before Hank Gathers went out with his heart ailment that eventually claimed his life in their conference tournament. They could play with anyone in the country, including the premier programs with all the blue-chip recruits. I would've loved to have seen that team play in the NCAA tournament.
I was there when Bill Ballew and Jim Snell had the program in its heyday. If anything they always played great defense, but this is a different era and This coach likes this style of play and is comfortable playing It. You can't control the level of the competition in your conference or your district, it is what it is. Just like you can't control catching Cardinal Ritter if you make it out of the districts in an early state round game.
How much better could the record possibly be if they were playing defense the way you would like it played? I also seriously doubt that you would be saying that they had the talent to beat Cardinal Ritter if they were playing defense that way .
Like I said earlier, basketball is a game and it's meant to be fun and to teach the kids life lessons. If those two things are accomplished and you win a lot of ball games then you've had one heckuva season .
How much better could the record possibly be if they were playing defense the way you would like it played? I also seriously doubt that you would be saying that they had the talent to beat Cardinal Ritter if they were playing defense that way .
Like I said earlier, basketball is a game and it's meant to be fun and to teach the kids life lessons. If those two things are accomplished and you win a lot of ball games then you've had one heckuva season .
My experience coaching taught me that you can advance in post season by placing defense in front of offense. To each their own
Might be true in the smaller classes, but in our league they typically just raise up and knock down a 3.
Many coaches believe defense wins championships, but I guess you can't teach what you don't know. I never said Montgomery wasn't fun to watch or if they played better defense they would be undefeated. I was responding to the post about fouls and the high score. The fouls are the result of poor defense and so are the high scores. Teams that don't score 80 and 90 points against lesser competition, put up 80 and 90 against Montgomery. I also responded to not being in a district with the Porter Brothers. I pointed out the Montgomery schedule and district were weak, I said sometimes things just fall your way and it has for Montgomery.
I was a Class 3 Coach, most regular season games are in normal high school gyms with closed ends. Postseason was in large college gyms with open ends and of course Hearnes was big
I get what you are saying, but in the long run it isn't going to make any difference. The road most likely ends at Ritter for the team that gets that far.
As for all this great defense being played......if the game was being called the way it should be called the defense wouldn't look so great. I see a lot of good athletes with average basketball skills being allowed to take advantage of a loosely called game. The words "let em play" are code for "let em mug".
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