I see that one of the new players for Mizzou is already in trouble with the law. So will this affect his playing time to start the season? We shall see.
Mizzou player charged
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This is why MU will always be small time. MIP. Not drunk. 5-star hoops recruit. Take the bottle and send them on their way. Non story. It's not HS. It's big time college hoops. 5 extra down and backs should do the trick for "punishment". MUPD, some things never change.
Cuonzo Martin is aware of the 18 year old Jeremiah Tilmon situation and will handle this internally. It appears the Missouri campus police has a zero tolerance of alcohol and other drug possession for Missouri students. The question is how will Cuonzo Martin handle this situation and sit the stage for future minor violators of his basketball players.
Missouri could have something special with this years recruiting class and should not let one player interfere with future progress.
Question----Has Jeremiah Tilmon qualified to enroll @ Missouri or is he still trying to qualify?
The police did exactly what should be done. At this point a minor violation which may teach the young man a valuable lesson and save his life at the same time. You're an adult now. Learn to make adult decisions
Yes, if they want to continue being what they've always been...Sure, MUPD should do exactly as they did. What valuable lesson should he have learned? Don't drive sober with alcohol in your car? It's college, it happens. He's a big time athlete. The rules aren't the same. At least in the big time places that actually get it.
I guess the question becomes does Mizzou want to be big time in college sports like UK, Bama, etc, and do whatever it takes to get there or do they want to actually try to teach all young adults, including 5 star athletes, that all actions have consequences. And do they want to hold coaches accountable as well. They're relevant questions I think. No where in a power 5 conference would the head football coach get taken to jail instead of home when stopped after having a few drinks, except at Mizzou. Nowhere would a football or basketball player, especially a 5 star recruit like DGB or Tilmon be taken to jail instead of a call to an assistant coach, except at Mizzou. It's been that way for a long time and it's definitely had affects on the sports programs.
Exactly. Pinkel and DGB are just another example. Not saying at all what they did is right. That's not my point. My point is, MU athletics will always be small time until they get a working relationship with MUPD and COMOPD. Some places like UK/Bama/FSU/UNC probably are on one side of the spectrum. MU is definitely on the other side. At the very least, they need to try to get to the middle. My thinking is the culture at MUPD and COMOPD is one that probably takes pride in busting the athletes.
I think there are a lot of folks in this state who don't want to be like those programs in this regard. I'm one of them. Sure I'd like to see Mizzou win at that level but I don't want to do it like they do. I realize it's just how the world works but I'm tired of seeing people get by with whatever they want if they're "somebody". That doesn't apply just to athletes either. I'm also smart enough to realize that winning at that level without playing that game isn't really possible. And I'm OK with that.
Agree to disagree. It's a misdemeanor. They could walk past every frat house and dorm on campus and write hundreds of those same tickets. This isn't Baylor/UNC/Louisville level stuff. That's taking it too far and those programs deserve what they get. But if you're ok with it, don't complain when hoops and football are mired in mediocrity like they have been forever.
Oh I get it. And they do write several of those tickets. I know from experience. We just don't hear much about them unless its a major sport athlete or coach. CoMo is notorious for tickets to minors. Lawyer friends tell me its hard to get anyone completely out of them there.
You haven't seen me complaining. Sure it'd be fun to see them win more just because I generally pull for local teams, for no good reason really. If they can do it with more discipline and integrity that just makes it better. I'm certainly not a win at all costs guy. But honestly it has almost zero affect on me. I'm too far away to attend many games and have other things to spend my time and money on. I watch on TV when it's convenient but seldom plan my time around it.
Hopefully CM uses this to make a point with the other newcomers. It's not hard to use a little smarts. You just have to have enough respect for yourself and the program to want to.
I get you get it. You was meant more in the respects of the fanbase in general. Or at least those that want the squeaky clean image. I've never understood it. Merely because there is a long distance between the win at all costs programs and what MU's supposed standards are. It just baffles me. Heck, even Coach Stewart got his hands dirty plenty.
Yep. I agree. Big time college sports has always been dirty. I actually think it might be a little less so now than in the past. We don't know a third of what went on back in the day. There's a lot more watchful eyes now with instant info and so much stuff recorded. You can't do or say anything without someone, or a lot of someones, knowing about it. And it's easy for someone to make money off for that info. It's a little baffling that Carolina was able to pull off their deal for so long. Stuff still happens and always will as long as the money is so big. You just have to hope your favorite doesn't go over whatever line you have in your own mind as being far enough.
Let's try to keep things in perspective. The kid was driving around with beer in his car. Not real smart. Should it ruin his life? I hope not.
I agree it shouldn't ruin his life. But I also don't think it should have been swept under just because he's a 5 star recruit. At a lot of programs it would have been.
Anderson came in and put the hammer down on a lot of his kids so I would anticipate Martin will do the right thing. Many of the kids that are still around from the Anderson regime know what discipline looks like and it should be interesting to see what happens. Probably some sort of punishment in the way of practices and 1 or 2 games missed. Won't be important games. Somebody like a division 2 or SEMO
Not one mosports poster has reported if JeremiahTilmon is a predictor or eligible to play this year. Kansas dropped off Tilmon before he committed to Missouri.
Cant-Coach.Just- Blog, Can you give an example of one of the crazy statement that was proven wrong?
Thats right. And do you know how easy it would be for a cop to say, ok there is no reason to have you blow, you passed the field test, wink, wink. But I can't let you totally off.
I don't get the 'it's big time college athletics' mentality. Why do you think players today are so spoiled? There have gotten away with crap no one else on campus in high school or college gets away with. its NOT ok for a minors to have booze in their car PERIOD!!! I don't care how good they are at what they do, we're talking about the law and their future. Let's not show them it's ok to do this stuff because they're a good athlete!
Let's not pretend this is just an issue with today's athletes. Big time athletes have been getting away with this kind of petty stuff for a long, long time. And I said nothing about HS. My statement pertains to the big boys. It's the way of the world. Stars (not just athletes) get preferential treatment. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. MUPD and CPD aren't doing MU any favors with this petty stuff.
And you think it's just fine. BTW it starts in HS and gets worse if they;re considered 'elite' players. I don't care what level it is letting this stuff slide this stuff is just plain silly. If they get away with the 'petty stuff' they'll keep pushing the limits. Maybe that's just the way it is but I don't have to agree with it.
This is one of those things that as a parent you can preach to them about, but is on the losing end more times than not. I'm not sure I know a single person who didn't have booze in their car while being underage at some point.
Now drinking and driving, I can understand the outrage. But lets not act like college freshmen are sitting around at night playing checkers.
I didn't say it's just fine. I said it's the way of the world. When MUPD and CPD get on their moral high ground, they're just making it harder for MU to succeed.
If he had in his car he was either going to drink it or let someone else under age drink it. Neither is ok. BTW I didn't. My friends did and like a dummy I rode with them sometimes, but they did not bring it into my car. I didn't say nobody under 21 is going to do it, I do say when they get caught they should face the consequences no matter how good they are at a sport.
3R you are spot on!!!!! I'm not saying crucify the kid. As a matter of fact it's a minor violation. But this could teach him a valuable lesson
Right, I don't wanna lock him and throw away the key or kick him off the team. I do think he should be taught that is NOT acceptable just because you are a star athlete at whatever level.
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