Basketball season is just fine. Most teams have only one game before Thanksgiving. So it is pretty much December through late February right now for regular season.
Missouri's playoff system...an idea
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Here is your solution. 7 classes split evenly, top 16 make the playoffs based on the point system through a 9 week season. You could keep the season as is and end a week before Thanksgiving or start a week later
Disagree 5 days of rest is not enough and is a safety concern... I think you just cut out a couple regular season games
Point system to determine? Okay... My Class 4 team that plays half their games against Class 5 teams will drop down and play 2 versus Class 3 and 2 versus Class 4. Optional Scheduling? No Class 4 will want to play schools like Smithville as an optional game, which is wrong. Pass.
I agree with dropping out the lowest ranked in the districts--week 1 of the playoffs is stupid. Let those teams schdedule a bowl game at the end.
How many teams play “too late”? For you? Almost Every other state plays into December….further north you go it seems they get done earlier
To be clear, I don't care when Missouri high school football season ends.
But, I Love how people just make stuff up. these days and just say things and try to pawn it off as a fact.
27 states play into December. There are 50 states. That is not "Almost Every other state" playing into December. That is barely a majority.
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Lol all the good football states then….To be clear, I don't care when Missouri high school football season ends.
But, I Love how people just make stuff up. these days and just say things and try to pawn it off as a fact.
27 states play into December. There are 50 states. That is not "Almost Every other state" playing into December. That is barely a majority.
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Personally I liked it better over thanksgiving weekend for travel purposes. A lot of people are off that Friday and it allows family from out of state or longer distances to travel and watch. Not that December is too late but a pregame practice Thanksgiving morning was pretty special.
no matter what the system is people are not going to be happy. Other states do it a multitude of ways and there are groups complaining about their systems as well.
Any team that played in State Semifinals or State Championship played too late in my opinion. I am a bigger basketball fan than football, so I am biased. And I don't care what other states do. I am a fan of Missouri High School sports. I don't follow other states.
In our area, wrestling is king. And that would not fly either. Wrestling is really a 10 month a year thing. Exceptions are made for football players, but some these teams like, Liberty might have 6 to 10 future D1 wrestlers. You can't push back things anymore because those guys are already missing out. You would end up having more elite wrestlers opt out of football.
Over and over again, this issue comes up. Best way to do it:
Top 4 teams in district play. Everyone else gets a bowl game. Example:
District 8.
Playoffs Round 1
Kearney v. Smithville
Excelsior Springs v. Lafayette
District 8 Bowl Games
5 Winnetonka D8 vs. 5 Harrisonville D7
6 Van Horn D8 vs. 6 Warrensburg D7
Have a quick decision MSHSAA board or person match up (or approve) the odd teams to make sure they get a game, even if the district/district matchups don't work.
Benefits: There is still the excitement of a playoff, if not the feel of a big game. You get to go out as a winner, if you win.
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I liked it with championships being played over Thanksgiving weekend, could really care less how we make it happen.
Basketball is a winter sport, they shouldnt be playing before New Years anyway.
Winter started yesterday but I am old enough to remember schools playing basketball the first of October and the last football game was played on Wed night because of district teacher meetings and no school on Thurs and Fri.. But I digress.
football is unique in that the playoffs take so long. Other sports can play multiple games in a week keeping the post season at about 3 weeks for all final participants. It’s twice that in football. It would be nice if it all wrapped up thanksgiving weekend whatever works to do that
Golly thanks for that wonderful insight about playoff football in Missouri...you do know this is the football board?? So you are telling me MSHSAA should make decisions about football based on what is best for basketball? That's a mindset that doesn't help Missouri football be better.
Well, this old toot peaks again. Basketball was considered the universal sports and all sports went by the class structure created by that sport beginning in 73-74 school year. Even after FB went to 5 classes, the lower classes were identical to all sports that had 4 classes. It was not until the late 80s, when classes were done on a two year basis due to FB, did that change.
Used to play every 5 days until they changed to a week in between games. Playoffs used to go Wednesday, Monday, Saturday.
So that is why there was so many games in the 60s and early 70s that ended on a Wednesday. It was weird doing research and that last game was always on a Wednesday or Tuesday. Thought it was weird.
Coached in several games in 5 day cycle. I didn't mind it. It is a lot of scheme by that time.
During districts they should use the 5 day model. Get districts knocked out in 2 weeks instead of 3. Then the actual playoffs would be on a 7 day model.
I wish they would cut 2 weeks off of basketball and baseball goes into June. It all seems longer than needed. Burning kids out and encoraging specialization.
They should make decisions about all sports together. I thought this was a bowling board.
If championship is Thanksgiving, why would you wait until January to play the next sport? More basketball the better. I went to 58 basketball games before New Years.
Are you referring to a proposed playoff system for sports teams in Missouri, or is this related to another context? If it's about sports playoffs, there are various ways to structure playoff systems depending on the sport and the number of teams involved. Each system has its pros and cons in terms of fairness, excitement, and practicality. What ideas do you have in mind for Missouri's playoff system?
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