Missouri HS Football Rankings 2019 Week 1 (Maxpreps)

[BPcompete]

1 Christian Brothers ST LOUIS TEAM
2 De Smet Jesuit ST LOUIS TEAM
3 Rockhurst (Kansas City)
4 Trinity Catholic ST LOUIS TEAM
5 Ladue Horton Watkins ST LOUIS TEAM
6 Blair Oaks (Jefferson City)
7 Lee's Summit North (Lee's Summit)
8 Joplin
9 Vianney ST LOUIS TEAM
10 Lutheran North ST LOUIS TEAM


6 of the top 10 all from the same area of the state. Makes sense when you remember (I know you do) how the state championships went last season. Anyway we're about a week and a half out good luck to everyone!

 

[bueno_Tuco]

1 Christian Brothers ST LOUIS TEAM
2 De Smet Jesuit ST LOUIS TEAM
3 Rockhurst (Kansas City)
4 Trinity Catholic ST LOUIS TEAM
5 Ladue Horton Watkins ST LOUIS TEAM
6 Blair Oaks (Jefferson City)
7 Lee's Summit North (Lee's Summit)
8 Joplin
9 Vianney ST LOUIS TEAM
10 Lutheran North ST LOUIS TEAM


6 of the top 10 all from the same area of the state. Makes sense when you remember (I know you do) how the state championships went last season. Anyway we're about a week and a half out good luck to everyone!

You do understand that having Joplin on that list gives it zero credibility

 

[BPcompete]

You do understand that having Joplin on that list gives it zero credibility

you mean class 6 Final 4 team Joplin who return multiple all state players? Is it two Joplins??

 

[bullitpdq68]

Joplin doesn't bother me as much as Webb not being listed. But these are just rankings, it is about to get real as the season will start in two weeks.

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

Joplin doesn't bother me as much as Webb not being listed. But these are just rankings, it is about to get real as the season will start in two weeks.

Much as I loved seeing NKC break out last year NO WAY they should be rated ahead of Staley and Park Hill. Maxpreps is fun reading but (this includes our local area rankings at Spectrum and 810) no way should all classes be ranked together like this.

 

[Peter Quill]

Wouldn’t matter if it was spot on which it’s not.
It’s week one!?!?!

 

[bueno_Tuco]

you mean class 6 Final 4 team Joplin who return multiple all state players? Is it two Joplins??

There are only 32 teams in class 6. It doesn’t take much to get to the final 4 or make all state.

 

[BPcompete]

There are only 32 teams in class 6. It doesn’t take much to get to the final 4 or make all state.

Dude it definitely takes something to make the final 4 in your class lol. But Im not gonna stand in they way of Joplin slander have at it

 

[BPcompete]

Wouldn’t matter if it was spot on which it’s not.
It’s week one!?!?!

just drumming up convo Pete!!

 

[cr7707]

I love Blair Oaks, but no way they are the 6th best team in MO.

 

[sw5890]

I should take my own advice and not pick apart these listings that include multiple classifications which never really make any sense to me - especially preseason. But this one is exceptionally goofy!

 

[Gollum_In_A_Tux]

We knows, don’ts we?
Yes, yes! Vianney wonts win six games this season, will they, Precious?
No, no, they won’ts.

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

https://www.810varsity.com/news_article/show/1043252

 

[carthagefan2006]

Fixed

1. Christian Brothers (Private)
2. DeSmet (Private)
3. Rockhurst (Private)
4. Trinty (Private)
5. Ladue (Public)
6. Blair Oaks (Public)
7. Lee' s Summit North (Public)
8. Joplin (Public)
9. Vianney (Private)
10. Lutheran North (Private)

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Fixed

1. Christian Brothers (Private)
2. DeSmet (Private)
3. Rockhurst (Private)
4. Trinty (Private)
5. Ladue (Public)
6. Blair Oaks (Public)
7. Lee' s Summit North (Public)
8. Joplin (Public)
9. Vianney (Private)
10. Lutheran North (Private)

Private schools have no advantages.

They just work harder

 

[deacon jones]

Much as I loved seeing NKC break out last year NO WAY they should be rated ahead of Staley and Park Hill. Maxpreps is fun reading but (this includes our local area rankings at Spectrum and 810) no way should all classes be ranked together like this.

Unfortunately, Maxpreps is not information or analysis based. It is designed to get a bunch of kids, parents, and coaches clicking on it for stuff about THEM. Click-bait business model. It's pretty shallow on actual useful info.

 

[Majost]

Private schools have no advantages.

They just work harder

Oh they do have an advantage. They usually provide a hell of a lot better education, and who doesn't want that.

 

[O line wins games]

Oh they do have an advantage. They usually provide a hell of a lot better education, and who doesn't want that.

LOL

 

[Majost]

LOL

Actually being serious on that. On another thread it talks about how there is a decline in sports overall. Well between computer, STEM, engineering, I see a lot of kids putting the pressure on themselves to do good in school and the ACT as the means to get their college education paid for. You can doubt me, but I assure you technology and grades has created a big buzz of interest and they feel sports will only take away from their interest in that. And you know what. That is ok.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Oh they do have an advantage. They usually provide a hell of a lot better education, and who doesn't want that.

Except most studies say the opposite.

Given equal conditions, public schools provide better educations.

 

[sw5890]

Oh they do have an advantage. They usually provide a hell of a lot better education, and who doesn't want that.

I don't know about everywhere but here the private schools are more academically rigorous at least in early grades (College Heights, TJ) than the public schools. They can do that because everyone in the class has "qualified" to be there. They aren't forced to accept the kids with disadvantaged backgrounds, who don't speak english, who don't care and have parents who don't care, or that just aren't very intelligent. I particularly laugh when TJ touts their high average scores in advertisements....duh they only accept kids who are really smart. Of course their average is high.

But are private schools actually better? Or do they just have fewer bad students? I don't know. I will say that here the public schools, particularly Joplin and Carthage have way more to offer in the way of courses, trades, etc. So a student who wants to learn has more opportunities in my opinion at a public school. Maybe that is different at some of the larger prestigious private schools in KC or STL. I can only speak from my experiences and observations around here.

I had a lot of friends who went to private school and they don't seem any more successful or well educated than my public school friends. But private school around here seems more about limiting kids exposure to certain socioeconomic backgrounds and religion than academics and sports. Maybe it's different elsewhere.

 

[sw5890]

Actually being serious on that. On another thread it talks about how there is a decline in sports overall. Well between computer, STEM, engineering, I see a lot of kids putting the pressure on themselves to do good in school and the ACT as the means to get their college education paid for. You can doubt me, but I assure you technology and grades has created a big buzz of interest and they feel sports will only take away from their interest in that. And you know what. That is ok.

I completely agree that its OK. I had a friend who hosted an exchange student from somewhere in europe, I think Spain. She just could not get over how easy and dumbed down american classes were and how much time and focus was placed on activities and sports.

 

[Rcarlisle314]

In STL, one of the first questions you are asked in social circles is what high school did you go? Attending private schools allow you to network and can provide an advantage when applying for local jobs and making business connections. I know its backwards and judgemental but the high school you attended can carry a lot of weight. You also have to consider that there some disctricts here that have academic issues. Can't blame a parent for seeking out better academic choices for their kid. For a lot of families here, it is not about sports; it's about finding ways to allow your child to get an education and better themselves. This whole private/public school issue really makes no sense. When you look at some public schools excel at different sports and some publics don't. Same is true for private schools.

 

[Jomjam]

In STL, one of the first questions you are asked in social circles is what high school did you go? Attending private schools allow you to network and can provide an advantage when applying for local jobs and making business connections. I know its backwards and judgemental but the high school you attended can carry a lot of weight. You also have to consider that there some disctricts here that have academic issues. Can't blame a parent for seeking out better academic choices for their kid. For a lot of families here, it is not about sports; it's about finding ways to allow your child to get an education and better themselves. This whole private/public school issue really makes no sense. When you look at some public schools excel at different sports and some publics don't. Same is true for private schools.

I had one child attend a public school in st louis, the other was gifted and attended a very rigorous high school in stl, the difference between public and private student expectations were night and day, and the public was a Top 10 in Missouri. That is just my experience. it could be different for everyone

 

[deacon jones]

Poverty is the #1 factor in how well a school does. Wealthy suburban schools tend to do just fine, as well as most private schools. In the U.S., there is (and always has been) considerable educational inequality. I posit no theories on how to solve the issue of poverty, as that will likely go nowhere in a hurry on this board. Rich kids are much more likely to have good educational opportunities, and also learn well. Poor kids don't and don't. It's why, if you're poor, the best thing you can do is try like hell to go to a school where the "haves" go.

 

[Rcarlisle314]

It's more culture than poverty in my view. I live in Hazelwood school district which has lower test scores than districts that have much lower median incomes. Some of that is due to brain drain, but a lot of it is due to the cultural environment in the schools. Students are not held to a high standard and accountability is lacking. The other difference I see is how well the school districts are run and what kind of pride is instilled in the students. I agree that economics play an important factor but a lot of more rural school districts do a better job of doing more than less.

 

[bullitpdq68]

A friend or ours has twins, they both went to a local private school that is ranked as one of the top in this area based on graduation rates and test scores. Well one decide later that they wanted to experience public school away from the other, so they enrolled that one in our local public school. The first year he saw a huge difference in the homework and classes that public school was offering and requiring versus what the private school was. However they both went on to graduated top in their respective classes, they both went to college and both did equally well in college. As far as education was concerned he said they both had positives and negatives but he was surprised how much more advanced classes a public school could offer versus a private because the public school was teamed up with a local college.

He said the difference he saw was more social than anything. The one that went to public school seemed to gain more confidence thru the years in different social settings and was willing to talk to and be friends with kids of different back grounds. He felt they had been exposed to more social settings in a public school than the private one, and this helped them with that. The private school child had a real close nit group of friends and struggled to find their way when not around those certain kids he said most of her friends parents were of a certain income bracket and they tended to not be all inclusive and not that he said any of this was bad, but going to a private school the one twin was not exposed to a lot of different social backgrounds than the private one was.

 

[BoosterBosko]

A lot of that will depend on the coursework taken.
You can get a HS diploma at a public school and take the minimum amount of science, math, etc permitted while loading up on PE, band or home ec.
You could also pursue semesters laden with AP courses with college credit that’ll make your head spin. Trying to say one public HS is either “easy” or “rigorous” isn’t a fair or well informed statement.

This is easily your best post on here Raw. Ill set aside our qualm because of the comments you made about my wife for a second here, because you raise a good point. Back when I was in high school, if someone asked about AP classes that also earned college credit, they would be making you ride the short bus before you knew it! High school wasnt taken seriously. Mostly because kids here in Ampipe, knew they were destined for a 9 to 5 (unless the OT got approved) in the steel mills. Fast forward to today, kids are graduating with darn near 30 college credit hours! Walnut Heights offers 15 different AP courses in high school. Sadly, Ampipe only offers 5. How does this relate? Both are PUBLIC schools. So your "Trying to say one public HS is either “easy” or “rigorous” isn’t a fair or well informed statement." comment is accurate and I agree with it.

 

[kaching]

close nit friends are the worst...

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

close nit friends are the worst...

Especially the ones with nits...............

 

[Team Tiger]

A lot of that will depend on the coursework taken.
You can get a HS diploma at a public school and take the minimum amount of science, math, etc permitted while loading up on PE, band or home ec.
You could also pursue semesters laden with AP courses with college credit that’ll make your head spin. Trying to say one public HS is either “easy” or “rigorous” isn’t a fair or well informed statement.

Very true, I think I had 3 PE classes my senior year, my best friend was half done with college by the time we graduated. We both turned out ok, well he did anyway, I'm posting on MoSports in the middle of the day when I should be working.

 

[Jomjam]

A lot of that will depend on the coursework taken.
You can get a HS diploma at a public school and take the minimum amount of science, math, etc permitted while loading up on PE, band or home ec.
You could also pursue semesters laden with AP courses with college credit that’ll make your head spin. Trying to say one public HS is either “easy” or “rigorous” isn’t a fair or well informed statement.

This is a great point, I think mine was well informed from what I saw between my kids, but still a great point

 

[JNreturns]

What rankings mean before Week 4-5: 0. ZIP. NADA. MEANINGLESS

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

What rankings mean before Week 4-5: 0. ZIP. NADA. MEANINGLESS

Not according to Maxpreps. Your bible.

 

[JNreturns]

Not according to Maxpreps. Your bible.

WRONG...they don't even do predictions until October 1, admitting there isn't enough data. "we will not project games until October 1st. [We are not too proud to admit that it just doesn't work nearly as well without much data (scores) to go on for the early-season games.]"

 

[BPcompete]

What rankings mean before Week 4-5: 0. ZIP. NADA. MEANINGLESS

True but it creates message board arguments which is like our whole purpose here

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

WRONG...they don't even do predictions until October 1, admitting there isn't enough data. "we will not project games until October 1st. [We are not too proud to admit that it just doesn't work nearly as well without much data (scores) to go on for the early-season games.]"

Sorry dolt. This is about rankings.They have posted them.

 

[JNreturns]

Sorry dolt. This is about rankings.They have posted them.

And a guy posts a meme of his horse taking a dump...according to Maxpreps own stat builder, their info prior to October 1 is about as meaningless as that post of a horse taking a dump.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

And a guy posts a meme of his horse taking a dump...according to Maxpreps own stat builder, their info prior to October 1 is about as meaningless as that post of a horse taking a dump.

The Raiders are as worthy as the dump you are talking about. As well as your argument.

 

[JNreturns]

The Raiders are as worthy as the dump you are talking about. As well as your argument.

This was trophy number three.