Missouri Dynasty Rankings 2003 to 2018.

[JNreturns]

Only two St. Louis schools in the top 10. (7 from the KC metro area, if you include Harrisonville)

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/GPfxiN...school-football-dynasty-ratings--missouri.htm

 

[Mitsurugi san]

And the only team in MO history to win 7 straight titles (all of which were between those dates, 2003 and 2018) is not listed?

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

And the only team in MO history to win 7 straight titles (all of which were between those dates, 2003 and 2018) is not listed?

They also believe a LN apparently is better than Lamar after losing a lot more than Lamar. All 3 1,000 yard RBs are gone. Kinda odd. I’d think it’s earned Lamar is 1 in rankings until they are dethroned. Can they lose? Sure. It can happen.

 

[hitch_and_go]

Max preps also has Carl Junction ranked #1 in class 4 and #7 overall in Missouri. The next highest team in class 4 is Webb City at #15. I understand their algorithm doesn't have data yet but not sure how you have Trinity #3 overall in the state when they didn't make the playoffs last year and CJ #7 who also didn't make the playoffs

 

[Mitsurugi san]

Because stars

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Max preps also has Carl Junction ranked #1 in class 4 and #7 overall in Missouri. The next highest team in class 4 is Webb City at #15. I understand their algorithm doesn't have data yet but not sure how you have Trinity #3 overall in the state when they didn't make the playoffs last year and CJ #7 who also didn't make the playoffs

Blair Oaks will be a real test for Lamar. Excellent team. And they are ranked 5th? Top 4 team in class 3 last year. And I believe they were young. It’s all about “stars” like San said.

 

[JNreturns]

And the only team in MO history to win 7 straight titles (all of which were between those dates, 2003 and 2018) is not listed?

Power ratings...Lamar wouldn't crack the top 8 in Class 6. Sorry.

 

[JNreturns]

Strength of schedule, level of play...Wow...more Class 4 teams in the top 10 than Class 5. Hmmm?

 

[JNreturns]

Max preps also has Carl Junction ranked #1 in class 4 and #7 overall in Missouri. The next highest team in class 4 is Webb City at #15. I understand their algorithm doesn't have data yet but not sure how you have Trinity #3 overall in the state when they didn't make the playoffs last year and CJ #7 who also didn't make the playoffs

Pre-season rankings? That has nothing to do with 15 years worth of results, tabulations, and prognostications...elaborations and Kearney Bulldog Nations...

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

Pre-season rankings? That has nothing to do with 15 years worth of results, tabulations, and prognostications...elaborations and Kearney Bulldog Nations...

I see what you did there lol

 

[Mitsurugi san]

Power ratings...Lamar wouldn't crack the top 8 in Class 6. Sorry.

Thought it was dynasty ratings, not power ratings

 

[hitch_and_go]

I wasn't talking about the dynasty rankings . I was talking about the current state rankings they have posted . CJ and Trinity aren't on the dynasty rankings .

 

[outsideveer89]

I wasn't talking about the dynasty rankings . I was talking about the current state rankings they have posted . CJ and Trinity aren't on the dynasty rankings .

Not having Lamar toward the top of that list somewhere kind of invalidates the entire thing

 

[Mitsurugi san]

I wasn't talking about the dynasty rankings . I was talking about the current state rankings they have posted . CJ and Trinity aren't on the dynasty rankings .

I know, but I was replying to Joey who was replying to my comment about Lamar being absent from the dynasty list

 

[WPAlum2010]

I know, but I was replying to Joey who was replying to my comment about Lamar being absent from the dynasty list

It’s all about top 1,000 teams they have played I looked to me. And Lamar hasn’t played all that many so it doesn’t compute with Max Preps. If we were to have our own rankings on here Lamar is top 3 easily.

 

[Mitsurugi san]

Meh...

I get it, they should just call it “Power Ratings” instead “Dynasty Ratings” then.

 

[JNreturns]

Thought it was dynasty ratings, not power ratings

Well, I'll explain this to you...a dynasty rating is a combination of power ratings over a number of years. Get it?

 

[MOFTBALLFAN]

I don’t know how
1. Lamar isn’t on the dynasty list
2. WC isn’t #1 when they torched Rockhurst during that same time span.

 

[JNreturns]

I don’t know how
1. Lamar isn’t on the dynasty list
2. WC isn’t #1 when they torched Rockhurst during that same time span.

Webb has three teams rated in the top 20 (out of all teams in Missouri) in the past 10 years.

2014 team. 5th
2011 team 14th
2012 team 18th

Blue Springs on the other hand has two teams in the top 4

2013 #1
2012 #4

Overall, Webb at #3 is pretty good, considering.

 

[JNreturns]

This is just the top 50 rated teams from the past 10 years.

1 Blue Springs (MO) . . 2013 74.5
2 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) . 2010 72.9
3 Lee's Summit West (Lee's Summit, MO) . . 2013 70.9
4 Blue Springs (MO) . 2012 70.2
5 Webb City (MO) . . 2014 67.6
6 Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO) . . 2017 67.5
7 Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO) . . 2014 66.4
8 Blue Springs South (Blue Springs, MO) . 2011 66.2
9 Blue Springs South (Blue Springs, MO) . . 2015 65.8
10 Kirkwood (MO) . 2012 64.1
11 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) 2008 63.6
12 Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO) . 2011 62.7
13 Blue Springs (MO) 2009 62.4
14 Webb City (MO) . 2011 62.4
15 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) . 2012 62.3
16 Blue Springs (MO) . 2010 62.1
17 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) . . 2014 62.1
18 Webb City (MO) . 2012 61.9
19 Lee's Summit West (Lee's Summit, MO) . 2010 61.6
20 Staley (Kansas City, MO) . 2011 61.4
21 Fort Osage (Independence, MO) . . 2015 61.4
22 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) . 2011 60.7
23 Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO) . . 2015 60.5
24 Kearney (MO) 2009 60.2
25 Webster Groves (MO) 2009 60.2
26 Hazelwood Central (Florissant, MO) 2009 60
27 Kearney (MO) . . 2015 59.8
28 Staley (Kansas City, MO) . . 2017 59.3
29 Jefferson City (MO) . 2011 58.8
30 Webb City (MO) 2008 58.4
31 Blue Springs South (Blue Springs, MO) . 2010 58.4
32 Webb City (MO) . 2010 57.8
33 Lee's Summit (MO) . . 2013 57.8
34 Webb City (MO) . . 2013 57.8
35 Blue Springs (MO) . . 2017 57.7
36 Kirkwood (MO) . . 2016 57.4
37 Webb City (MO) . . 2015 57.2
38 Rockhurst (Kansas City, MO) 2009 56.3
39 Hazelwood Central (Florissant, MO) . 2010 55.8
40 Kearney (MO) . . 2013 55.5
41 Webb City (MO) . . 2017 55.4
42 Howell [Francis] (St. Charles, MO) . . 2014 55.3
43 Fort Osage (Independence, MO) . . 2013 54.5
44 DeSmet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) 2009 54.3
45 Howell [Francis] (St. Charles, MO) . 2012 54.3
46 Staley (Kansas City, MO) . . 2015 54.1
47 Blue Springs South (Blue Springs, MO) 2008 53.9
48 Fort Zumwalt West (O'Fallon, MO) . 2010 53.9
49 Eureka (MO) . . 2017 53.6
50 Webb City (MO) 2009 53.4

 

[bhunt95]

Anybody have Overall Records during that timespan? Would think that would represent "Dynasty" teams better.

 

[hitch_and_go]

It lists it and Webb is by far the best. Also has by far the best winning % against top 1000 teams . Webb's is 78% 31-9. Next best is 64% in Blue Springs. Most of the rest are under 500 or close to .500

 

[JNreturns]

It lists it and Webb is by far the best. Also has by far the best winning % against top 1000 teams . Webb's is 78% 31-9. Next best is 64% in Blue Springs. Most of the rest are under 500 or close to .500

But Webb has a schedule loaded with powder puffs... Granted they have played some big games against big schools. But do that weekly...face a big time team every week..without a break...and thats why they are 3rd... Hell, from 2003 to 2018 Webb has a losing record to Kearney.

 

[hitch_and_go]

Springdale Har-Ber, Bentonville, Jeff City, Memphis Ridgeway , Columbia Rock Bridge , Rockhurst ( whom they scored 80 straight points on ) Columbia Hickman, St . Thomas Aquinas ,, etc ..those weren't 'powder puffs" neither is the COC large who has nixa , Ozark, and Carthage in the final 4 in class 5 almost every year. And I know you don't buy it but cj is one of the best teams Webb plays every year ...

 

[JNreturns]

Springdale Har-Ber, Bentonville, Jeff City, Memphis Ridgeway , Columbia Rock Bridge , Rockhurst ( whom they scored 80 straight points on ) Columbia Hickman, St . Thomas Aquinas ,, etc ..those weren't 'powder puffs" neither is the COC large who has nixa , Ozark, and Carthage in the final 4 in class 5 almost every year. And I know you don't buy it but cj is one of the best teams Webb plays every year ...

And I say so what? Random games against good schools isn't like having a Class 5 or Class 6 Kansas City area schedule where you have to play Park Hill, Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, and even the mediocre Class 6 teams that are physical. Puuulleease Do yourself a favor...go to the Webb City Football History site and look at those schedules over the past 15 years. Come on man, sometimes they only play like 2 decent teams in the regular season. Average class 4 teams are nowhere near as good or physical as average Class 5 and 6 teams... Maybe in your area...but not in Kansas City.. Hence, you have 7 of the top 10 dynasties from Kansas City.

 

[Mitsurugi san]

And I say so what? Random games against good schools isn't like having a Class 5 or Class 6 Kansas City area schedule where you have to play Park Hill, Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, and even the mediocre Class 6 teams that are physical. Puuulleease Do yourself a favor...go to the Webb City Football History site and look at those schedules over the past 15 years. Come on man, sometimes they only play like 2 decent teams in the regular season. Average class 4 teams are nowhere near as good or physical as average Class 5 and 6 teams... Maybe in your area...but not in Kansas City.. Hence, you have 7 of the top 10 dynasties from Kansas City.

Ya! The COC schedule Webb City plays just doesn’t even come close to comparing. Just look at how Ozark faired against Lee Sumit We....

Oh wait!

 

[JNreturns]

Ya! The COC schedule Webb City plays just doesn’t even come close to comparing. Just look at how Ozark faired against Lee Sumit We....

Oh wait!

Keep cherry picking examples of one game here or there. It still doesn't matter...Webb is a top team. No one is saying they aren't. Just because they have a losing record to kearney doesn't man they don't have a better dynasty.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Blair Oaks will be a real test for Lamar. Excellent team. And they are ranked 5th? Top 4 team in class 3 last year. And I believe they were young. It’s all about “stars” like San said.

Not sure if Balir OAks is strong enough up front to contend with Lamar

 

[JNreturns]

Its funny how butt hurt people get when their perception of reality is countered by the facts/data/reality.

 

[Mitsurugi san]

It’s not just Ozark; Nixa was in the dome a couple years ago in Class 5...

And outside

Its funny how butt hurt people get when their perception of reality is countered by the facts/data/reality.

Pot/Kettle

 

[outsideveer89]

And I say so what? Random games against good schools isn't like having a Class 5 or Class 6 Kansas City area schedule where you have to play Park Hill, Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, and even the mediocre Class 6 teams that are physical. Puuulleease Do yourself a favor...go to the Webb City Football History site and look at those schedules over the past 15 years. Come on man, sometimes they only play like 2 decent teams in the regular season. Average class 4 teams are nowhere near as good or physical as average Class 5 and 6 teams... Maybe in your area...but not in Kansas City.. Hence, you have 7 of the top 10 dynasties from Kansas City.

I think you have delusions of grandeur.
Urban teams from the KC area seem to generally suck. Bunch of city wussies pushing each other around then bragging about how great they are.

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

But Webb has a schedule loaded with powder puffs... Granted they have played some big games against big schools. But do that weekly...face a big time team every week..without a break...and thats why they are 3rd... Hell, from 2003 to 2018 Webb has a losing record to Kearney.

Joey gone fishin'...........

 

[JNreturns]

I think you have delusions of grandeur.
Urban teams from the KC area seem to generally suck. Bunch of city wussies pushing each other around then bragging about how great they are.

Yeah Staley sucked last year. And so has Blue Springs and Blue Springs South (6 of the last 7 championships they have won or been in.) Real overrated.

 

[JNreturns]

Joey gone fishin'...........

Not really. Look at theur schedules and tell me one schedule that Webb has had that comes halfway close to a Blue Springs or Blue Springs South schedule. Fishing? Nope. Fact.

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

Not really. Look at theur schedules and tell me one schedule that Webb has had that comes halfway close to a Blue Springs or Blue Springs South schedule. Fishing? Nope. Fact.

This is sorta off subject but I really like what some of the STL schools are doing. I think it would benefit MO overall to have our top programs play similar sized schools in other parts of the Nation.

 

[JNreturns]

This is sorta off subject but I really like what some of the STL schools are doing. I think it would benefit MO overall to have our top programs play similar sized schools in other parts of the Nation.

But why is Tinity, Class #2, and ranked 52 in Missouri last year playing Colquitt high school, who would be a Smaller Class 6 school in Missouri? They are continually ranked top 8 in the state of Georgia. Shouldn't that be CBC going to that game?

 

[SW Drill King]

I created an account just to comment on his post, you big city dudes couldn’t be further from the truth, Webb City would steam roll through most of Blue Springs schedule and most years dominate Blue Springs. They kicked the shit out of Rockhurst in a down year. They would dominate because of the coach they have. As soon as Rod leaves the program it will go back into just a solid program and not be a world beater like it’s been.

 

[JNreturns]

I created an account just to comment on his post, you big city dudes couldn’t be further from the truth, Webb City would steam roll through most of Blue Springs schedule and most years dominate Blue Springs. They kicked the shit out of Rockhurst in a down year. They would dominate because of the coach they have. As soon as Rod leaves the program it will go back into just a solid program and not be a world beater like it’s been.

And yet, Webb still has a losing record to little old Kearney and Excelsior Springs. See how cherry picking works?

Here is last year's stength of schedule ranking. So you folks down South understand, THIS is a RATING of the toughest schedules in 2017 as compiled by Maxpreps:

1. Rockhurst
2. Blue Springs South
3. Ray Pec
4. Lee's Summit North
5. DeSmet
6. Park Hill
7. Jeff City
8. Pattonville
9 LSW
10. CBC
11. St. Louis U
12. Vianney
13. Staley
14. Lafayette
15. Marquette
16. Eureka
17. Lindbergh
18. Liberty, Mo
19. Kirkwood
20. Webster Groves
21. Liberty North (Kansas City)
22. Rockwood Summit
23. Jackson
24. Webb City

I will interpret this for you. Webb is WAY DOWN the LIST. You can cherry pick good victories over certain teams...but so can a lot of other teams. Week in and week out, Webb has a powder puff schedule relative to what the Class 6 teams have to face every week. An early season win agianst Rock? Really? They are a slow starting team anyway. And Blue Springs has beaten them over and over again. Perspective bro. Perspective.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

But why is Tinity, Class #2, and ranked 52 in Missouri last year playing Colquitt high school, who would be a Smaller Class 6 school in Missouri? They are continually ranked top 8 in the state of Georgia. Shouldn't that be CBC going to that game?

Because max preps LOVES Trinity and so does everyone else. Ask people who recruit these kids and think they are so special. (Which we all know they are mostly overrated) it should be CBC.

 

[anon_o1osz027druk9]

But why is Tinity, Class #2, and ranked 52 in Missouri last year playing Colquitt high school, who would be a Smaller Class 6 school in Missouri? They are continually ranked top 8 in the state of Georgia. Shouldn't that be CBC going to that game?

Oh and Vienney is playing Fayetteville Ark today. That might be a implied game as well.