Missouri Boys Basketball Coaching Movement

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Missouri Boys Basketball Head Coaching Movement


Missouri Boys Basketball Head Coaching Movement


Vacant

Advance

Bowling Green

Bunceton

Doniphan

Jefferson (Festus)

Kennett

Kingsville

Marshfield

Odessa

Tipton

Republic

South Callaway

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[bbq king]

Eldon needs to be open for a new head coach. I think 3 wins the last 3 years. 0 for nothing this year only had a few games close to maybe winning. Great guy just not getting the job done.

 

[midmoguy]

Eldon needs to be open for a new head coach. I think 3 wins the last 3 years. 0 for nothing this year only had a few games close to maybe winning. Great guy just not getting the job done.

They just don't have much talent their. For a Class 4 School they just simply don't have much to work with. The Coach Kliethermes puts in the work and gets his guys playing their best. They just don't have a very high ceiling.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

They just don't have much talent their. For a Class 4 School they just simply don't have much to work with. The Coach Kliethermes puts in the work and gets his guys playing their best. They just don't have a very high ceiling.

Does not matter what coach is there if the cupboard is dry! They do things the right way and puts in the work to get better, just not all on the coach. They will be like that for a while the way the jr high seasons looked too.

 

[midmoguy]

Does not matter what coach is there if the cupboard is dry! They do things the right way and puts in the work to get better, just not all on the coach. They will be like that for a while the way the jr high seasons looked too.

I agree with you 100% They have little to no chance against most teams on their schedule. I have seen them play teams close for a 1/2 or even 3 quarters before lack of talent and depth start to catch up with them. Right now Mid-Mo basketball is pretty strong so it isn't a great time to be rebuilding.

 

[MOsportsStaff]

Eldon needs to be open for a new head coach. I think 3 wins the last 3 years. 0 for nothing this year only had a few games close to maybe winning. Great guy just not getting the job done.

so they won 0 games and your blaming the coach? yeah that must be it SMH

 

[yoyo78]

What happened to Coach in Bowling Green?

 

[Trim78]

Advance will be open. Coach is retiring.

 

[HARDWORK3211]

Marshfield is still open right?

 

[BONE62]

What happened to Coach in Bowling Green?

He retired from coaching to spend more time with his children

 

[yoyo78]

He retired from coaching to spend more time with his children

Coach Bibb is a good guy.

 

[msubearssuperfan1]

I guess Republic will be open soon (unless they've changed their minds and will allow Trevyor to stay on as coach and AD).

 

[Hoosier 1]

It is open on the DOE along with his PE position.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Coach Biggs is a good guy.

Coach Bibb is a great guy and glad he gets to spend time with his family

 

[Bear Lioncat]

Greenfield and Gainesville are both open.

 

[bbq king]

Eldon needs to be open for a new head coach. I think 3 wins the last 3 years. 0 for nothing this year only had a few games close to maybe winning. Great guy just not getting the job done.

Looks like I wasn't to far off. The job was posted today. The coach is a good guy but in the end you are held accountable good or bad.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Looks like I wasn't to far off. The job was posted today. The coach is a good guy but in the end you are held accountable good or bad.

I think bbq king applies and takes the job next season...

 

[jball40]

Bibb will be missed on the sidelines. I've had the privilege of playing against his teams, coaching against him in the summer, and he's always been an easy person to talk to and rely on when something is needed. He has many stories, some of which are even true!! Glad he's getting to spend more time with his family. Although I also know he will be a phone call or text away when advice is needed.

 

[jlar2015]

Looks like I wasn't to far off. The job was posted today. The coach is a good guy but in the end you are held accountable good or bad.

Pretty hard to win with no talent...not sure how a coach is "held accountable" when the kids just aren't good. BBQ king you are why I love message boards getting to read people saying stupid things.

 

[HARDWORK3211]

Where did the Greenfield coach go?

 

[bbq king]

Pretty hard to win with no talent...not sure how a coach is "held accountable" when the kids just aren't good. BBQ king you are why I love message boards getting to read people saying stupid things.

So I guess the kids are responsible for everything according to you. The last time I checked the head coach gets the wins and losses on His record not the kids. When I made the statement held accountable that's exactly what it boils down to. As a head coach you are only as good as what you have to work with fully understood. But in the end sad to say as the head coach your wins and losses are an important factor in whether you are retained. Also in my reply to your comment notice that I didn't mention anything about saying stupid things.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

So I guess the kids are responsible for everything according to you. The last time I checked the head coach gets the wins and losses on His record not the kids. When I made the statement held accountable that's exactly what it boils down to. As a head coach you are only as good as what you have to work with fully understood. But in the end sad to say as the head coach your wins and losses are an important factor in whether you are retained. Also in my reply to your comment notice that I didn't mention anything about saying stupid things.

I know nothing of the situation in Eldon, other than the players I see on the court. And this is no shot at them at all, because they seem like hard working kids. Just not much talent there. Greg Popovich would get fired based solely on W/L record at Eldon with that talent level.

 

[midmoguy]

When it comes to looking at removing a coach there are a few things I think should be looked at before taking into consideration W/L's.

1. Participation numbers
2. Work ethic of the coach
3. Are the players there working hard
4. Are players prepared
5. Meeting talent expectations

Those are not posted in any particular order. I am sure some others have priorities that should be put in their as well. If you constantly under-perform then maybe remove a coach for not winning. But if you look at a roster and go "we top out at maybe 3 wins" then that coach should not be let go for winning 0. If you look at teams that should be competing for district titles and they never get out of the 1st round then maybe remove a guy if that happens 3,4, or 5 years in a row. Kinda like college coaches. You can't tell for sure until they have sent a class all the way through the program.

 

[jlar2015]

So I guess the kids are responsible for everything according to you. The last time I checked the head coach gets the wins and losses on His record not the kids. When I made the statement held accountable that's exactly what it boils down to. As a head coach you are only as good as what you have to work with fully understood. But in the end sad to say as the head coach your wins and losses are an important factor in whether you are retained. Also in my reply to your comment notice that I didn't mention anything about saying stupid things.

Well you don't know much about coaching if you think a coach really cares about his or her win loss total. You work as hard as you can, with what you have to work with, and yes you want to win, but if it doesn't happen then you hope kids learned some life lessons along the way (which are a hell of a lot more important then a win loss total in my book).

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Well you don't know much about coaching if you think a coach really cares about his or her win loss total. You work as hard as you can, with what you have to work with, and yes you want to win, but if it doesn't happen then you hope kids learned some life lessons along the way (which are a hell of a lot more important then a win loss total in my book).

Exactly. I have coached a few games, but can not tell you how many games i have won because thats not important to me. If you work hard, do the best, everything takes care of itself and you have a positive impact on kids for later in life.

 

[PCole]

I used to work with a coach here in Princeton who, every year when the St. Joseph News-Press sent out its preseason questionnaire, would call me and ask "Preston, what's my record?" William E. Goodin is now a member of the MBCA Hall of Fame - and never gave two s**** about his record.

 

[164chevy]

Parents have a lot to do with the amount of success a program has. Kids can't be held accountable because there just kids. Give me a good mom and dad together and they can determine the future of their child. Players aren't made at the 2 to 3 hr practice every day, but rather what there taught at home. Coaches can demand certain things, but nothing takes the place of good parents.

 

[Trim78]

164chevy, I agree with you 100%.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Parents have a lot to do with the amount of success a program has. Kids can't be held accountable because there just kids. Give me a good mom and dad together and they can determine the future of their child. Players aren't made at the 2 to 3 hr practice every day, but rather what there taught at home. Coaches can demand certain things, but nothing takes the place of good parents.

True, but HS athletes can certainly be held accountable. If not, expectations are meaningless.

 

[164chevy]

Yes, you are right. It helps a lot if they've been taught this and then have a coach that teaches the same thing.

 

[midmoguy]

Jumping on this topic, I heard parents this season saying the coach "played favorites" with those players who came to off season stuff vs those that came to nothing. Probably had nothing to do with players getting better than others during the off season. This is a prime example of how coaches and parents need to work together in order to have a successful program.

 

[mowesten]

Jumping on this topic, I heard parents this season saying the coach "played favorites" with those players who came to off season stuff vs those that came to nothing. Probably had nothing to do with players getting better than others during the off season. This is a prime example of how coaches and parents need to work together in order to have a successful program.

At the moment you're fighting over who showed up to offseason stuff and who came to nothing, you're about to be awful.

 

[Bluejaypureblood]

Boy this topic could catch fire real quick! Anytime the gym was open by the coach, I was there growing up. 95 degree day with no A/C in that hot box of a gym, didn't matter I just wanted to play! Also, if my old man knew the gym was open, I was there. It was never a burden to go play ball but seems like today, coaches have it rougher. Darned if you open the gym and want kids to come get better, danged if you don't and kids don't want to get better and you are subject of getting canned? I completely understand if you do not produce wins but to say that it's a coaches fault you are losing when the talent isn't there or what little talent you have, doesn't want to work is a tad ridiculous. Parents need to step back and understand that most coaches are giving their kid every opportunity to get better. The real questions are 1.Is you player showing up to get better?2. Are you getting them there as a parent? In my opinion, if a coach and parents work together to produce quality young people in the classroom and community, the winning will come, not just on the field of play! It doesn't just take a village to raise a kid, it takes one to build a program too! End rant!

 

[Cant-Coach-Just-Blog]

Bluejay just spoke the truth and dropped the mic on his way out

 

[Trim78]

I see this every year. I started coaching in 1982 and I have loved my job for the last 36 years. I hear today's kids don't want to work! That's not really true. What has changed is there's just a lot more for kids to do today than 36 years ago when I started. Every year I get kids that love the game and they work their butts off to get better. I also get the kid that's there because he enjoy's being around his friends but he doesn't truly love the game so his effort is not where we would like it. Now you have a player that doesn't give everything but a set of parents that believe their son should be on the floor, this can lead to many different sets of problems. This is where as a coach I find making the decision to play the kids that give 100% and really love the game over the one's that are just there no matter what talent level we are talking about! Allows me to get up in the morning and like what I see in the mirror. Has this attitude caused me problems? Yes every year. But when I put a young man on the floor to play I know deep down he earned that right by what he's done in practice everyday, not because what his last name is. I really believe as a coach you have to play the player's that give you everything and want to be there. Understand that this isn't always the popular move with the powers that be and I have had more than my share of parent meetings over the last 4 decades. As a coach you have to weigh your options- 1. Do what's right, play the kids that work the hardest and do everything you ask of them and worry about your job. 2. Play the kids that have the power backing them and not worry about keeping your job ( No
guarantee if you lose). Young coaches needing the job lean towards #2. It's the old "caught between a rock and a hard spot." Either way you go can cost you your job. I have always done the one that allows me to sleep at night! Good luck to all my fellow coaching brethren!!

 

[midmoguy]

At the moment you're fighting over who showed up to offseason stuff and who came to nothing, you're about to be awful.

I totally agree with you. The team I am referencing has a ton of talent but a big difference between who shows up and who doesn't. You have 1/2 the team that shows up to everything and the other 1/2 that shows up to nothing. Not even summer games! Then wonders why some kids play over others. Sometimes the kids who don't show up get better after the first few weeks of practice and start to earn more playing time, other don't. Makes for a long season. It is mostly the parents feeding talented kids the idea that since you were a stud last year on JV or in Middle School you will be a stud varsity player. Your a year older so you are automatically better than last year. At least that's what the parents think.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Perfect example is Coach Day being let go at NMCC! You can not tell me he deserved to be let go, but yet a school board member has a kid that he thinks needs to be playing more and works his magic. Just wish the dad would take over and really see what it is like!

 

[midmoguy]

Sorry to hear about Coach Day. I am sure he is only one of many coaches who "resign" from their positions this year due to that type of situation.

 

[164chevy]

It's hard to do what's right and play the kids that work hard and are in it for the team. You know honestly those school board members sons, etc. know the truth, they are not as good as some kid that probably doesn't have as much but as learned the value of hard work. I used to say if you were an administrators son, board members son or the local bankers son, you better be good, because you weren't getting playing time for your name. I remember very well the problems this attitude caused me. Wouldn't change it but does cause a lot of interesting situations.

 

[3Rfan]

Missouri Boys Basketball Head Coaching Movement


Missouri Boys Basketball Head Coaching Movement


Vacant

Advance

Bowling Green

Bunceton

Doniphan

Jefferson (Festus)

Kennett

Kingsville

Marshfield

Odessa

Tipton

Republic

South Callaway

Strafford




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Strafford

Naylor boy's basketball and baseball is open, at least I haven't heard if it has been filled.