Minneapolis

[kaskaskiakid]

Rioting in the streets last night and I don't blame them! George Floyd was a 46 yr old man being arrested for forgery at a deli, which makes me think possibly passing a bad check, just a guess. We don't see everything that happened, but a short clip did show him being led to the car and he was complying. He was on the ground in handcuffs behind his back and not resisting, at least at that point. My God, the cop had his knee on his neck for 7-8 minutes, Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" and you can hear a bystander saying "Let him breathe".

I appreciate that police probably have the toughest job, but what was this cop, obviously not a rookie, thinking, and why didn't any of the other 3 cops stop it?? This makes me sick! He was a 46 yr old man wanted for suspicion of a petty crime. I respect what cops do and wouldn't want their job. But this is happening way too often and it has to stop.

 

[bullitpdq68]

There was no need for that cop to keep their knee on that man for as long as he did. The man had tapped out, I respect cops and I understand the danger they face every day. I am sure they all want to go home to their families at night. But it is clear they had the situation under control, they had to feel him go limp and the officer continued to keep their knee on his neck. The other fact that an office pointed out to me is that the officer clearly has their knee in the wrong place, they are suppose to have it between the shoulder blades because you are taught in the academy he said that you can hurt them or crush their wind pipe when putting it on the neck.

 

[Sentrycash]

Prosecution is coming. Hopefully, justice will prevail. It won't bring him back. It's a terrible tragedy. These cops have a sick syndrome or something. That job hardens you to do stupid stuff.

You have to figure statistically, anyone that has the mentality to be a cop, has the potential get angry and kill people.

Like a rogue soldier who is already a psych job, that reveals his inner monster.

 

[Cheetah King]

Rioting in the streets last night and I don't blame them! George Floyd was a 46 yr old man being arrested for forgery at a deli, which makes me think possibly passing a bad check, just a guess. We don't see everything that happened, but a short clip did show him being led to the car and he was complying. He was on the ground in handcuffs behind his back and not resisting, at least at that point. My God, the cop had his knee on his neck for 7-8 minutes, Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" and you can hear a bystander saying "Let him breathe".

I appreciate that police probably have the toughest job, but what was this cop, obviously not a rookie, thinking, and why didn't any of the other 3 cops stop it?? This makes me sick! He was a 46 yr old man wanted for suspicion of a petty crime. I respect what cops do and wouldn't want their job. But this is happening way too often and it has to stop.

I agree except I don’t think this a cop problem that is representative of any large portion of law enforcement. This guy needs a fair trial and once proven guilty needs to be locked away for a long long time.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Prosecution is coming. Hopefully, justice will prevail. It won't bring him back. It's a terrible tragedy. These cops have a sick syndrome or something. That job hardens you to do stupid stuff.

You have to figure statistically, anyone that has the mentality to be a cop, has the potential get angry and kill people.

Like a rogue soldier who is already a psych job, that reveals his inner monster.

I don't know about the mentality part, but could be. I have family members who are cops and some have been for over 25 years. They say after awhile you just get so tired of arresting the same people for the same old $hit every night. And then before you know it you are arresting their kids, they say it is a never ending cycle and criminals continue to blame others everyday for why they are getting arrested. And they will threaten the cops, their kids and wifes, as a cop you might see them drive by your house as those criminals want to point out they know who you are too. I am sure after awhile that has to be so mentally tiresome and scary. One of my cousin got out of law enforcement because of that crap, they just said ever night you knew exactly who you were going to be dealing with it was like ground hog day over and over.

And Then there are a very few bad ones who were bullies before putting on the badge and they get off on having that power that the badge brings. I would say that would be the case here. But not all cops are bad.

 

[Sentrycash]

Rioting in the streets last night and I don't blame them! George Floyd was a 46 yr old man being arrested for forgery at a deli, which makes me think possibly passing a bad check, just a guess. We don't see everything that happened, but a short clip did show him being led to the car and he was complying. He was on the ground in handcuffs behind his back and not resisting, at least at that point. My God, the cop had his knee on his neck for 7-8 minutes, Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" and you can hear a bystander saying "Let him breathe".

I appreciate that police probably have the toughest job, but what was this cop, obviously not a rookie, thinking, and why didn't any of the other 3 cops stop it?? This makes me sick! He was a 46 yr old man wanted for suspicion of a petty crime. I respect what cops do and wouldn't want their job. But this is happening way too often and it has to stop.

I think it is unanimous all across America that includes police officers all the way up the chain to the President that this guy needs to fry.

We all agree.

I'm waiting to hear the guy that doesn't agree.

But as you can see as this unfolds the rhetoric is pretty terrible.

Because we all agree this guy needs to go to prison.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

I think it is unanimous all across America that includes police officers all the way up to the chain to the President that this guy needs to fry. We all agree.

Just playing the devil's advocate, after years on the job, I'm sure many cops become hardened and maybe lose their sense of compassion and human decency, just like soldiers do in war. I can't imagine what a cop in the hood goes through on a daily basis. Not excusing but can see how someone could become jaded. I don't want to see him executed. I see a plea deal down to manslaughter. The other 3 won't do more than 1-2 years in protected custody. I can't believe no one stopped it.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

I know and agree, no excuse. Maybe he should be executed to send a message to all cops that the brutality has to stop now.

 

[Veerman_12]

I know and agree, no excuse. Maybe he should be executed to send a message to all cops that the brutality has to stop now.

He should.

I mean give him a fair trial because the Constitution requires it, but if he's found guilty he should absolutely receive the death penalty.

 

[Veerman_12]

While I can't see any way the cops actions were justified, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I always say wait until ALL the evidence is in. I fully believe he will be found guilty but, It was in the line of duty so, I doubt there will be any execution which would probably be less painful than prison in this case.

There's no legal justification for kneeling on another human being's neck while said human is begging you to get up because he can't breath. The fact that this happened in the line of duty when the suspect was subdued and any threat was neutralized makes this worse, not better.

 

[MGHS]

Just playing the devil's advocate, after years on the job, I'm sure many cops become hardened and maybe lose their sense of compassion and human decency, just like soldiers do in war. I can't imagine what a cop in the hood goes through on a daily basis. Not excusing but can see how someone could become jaded. I don't want to see him executed. I see a plea deal down to manslaughter. The other 3 won't do more than 1-2 years in protected custody. I can't believe no one stopped it.

I think because he was talking...you assume he was breathing and OK. The Cop didn't appear to be angry in all the angles I saw. Just continued to keep pressure on his neck. Maybe he just assumed since he was a big dude he was going to be OK.

Cop still has to pay for his actions though.

As do those that are rioting that is insane and stupid.

 

[Expect2Win]

Duck beat me to it. The fact that a reporter was arrested with a ,microphone in his hand. The cop has not. Everyone agrees he appears to be guilty, but will have the right to a trial. They have to arrest him first. Why he has not been arrested in 4 days, is absolutely absurd. If nothing else an arrest would have possibly lowered tensions. I am sure there are people in Minnesota who believe he will never even face charges.

 

[Veerman_12]

Duck beat me to it. The fact that a reporter was arrested with a ,microphone in his hand. The cop has not. Everyone agrees he appears to be guilty, but will have the right to a trial. They have to arrest him first. Why he has not been arrested in 4 days, is absolutely absurd. If nothing else an arrest would have possibly lowered tensions. I am sure there are people in Minnesota who believe he will never even face charges.

Yeah...everyone agrees it's messed up.

Pretty sure we are all in agreement.

 

[Expect2Win]

OMG I am watching the recording of them being arrested. What in the world? They asked where do you want us to go? It was absurd. Jesus Christ, Omar Jimenez (sp?) handled this with such class and dignity.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Duck beat me to it. The fact that a reporter was arrested with a ,microphone in his hand. The cop has not. Everyone agrees he appears to be guilty, but will have the right to a trial. They have to arrest him first. Why he has not been arrested in 4 days, is absolutely absurd. If nothing else an arrest would have possibly lowered tensions. I am sure there are people in Minnesota who believe he will never even face charges.

It is mind boggling that there hasn't been an arrest. If that was avg joe he'd be in the slammer

 

[hb1025]

They arrested a CNN reporter in Minneapolis and they haven’t arrested the murderer yet. But the reporter is black so that makes it ok with Trump and his followers.

Duck you always got to blame Trump

 

[Distancefix]

Typical leftist run city. Let murdering cops run free, allow rioters to loot and burn the city down. But arrest reporters and write out parking tickets.

 

[hoopsrus6]

..."When the looting starts, the shooting starts." --George Wallace, 1968...

What was your source on that?

 

[hoopsrus6]

I'll just leave this here, we don't need any more fake news sullying this perfect message board.

My apologies for the source.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...-looting-starts-shooting-starts-come-n1217676

 

[Veerman_12]

I'll just leave this here, we don't need any more fake news sullying this perfect message board.

My apologies for the source.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...-looting-starts-shooting-starts-come-n1217676

Thank God some of us actually cite sources instead of just trying to gaslight the rest of the board.

 

[hb1025]

He has nothing to do with it,your hate for Trump is tearing you up inside.Put some Steely Dan on and chill,it will make you feel better

 

[kaskaskiakid]

He has nothing to do with it,your hate for Trump is tearing you up inside.Put some Steely Dan on and chill,it will make you feel better

I tried that, hb. I still hate trumpy.

 

[Veerman_12]

I tried that, hb. I still hate trumpy.

Because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Literally no other reason. You hate because CNN tells you to.

 

[Veerman_12]

you guys are hilarious. When Trump throws gas on the fire time and again, you decide the problem is Mosports posters hating a racist conman. Not the racist conman himself.

You have no credibility. You're a gaslighting artist.

Trying to make a comparison to George Wallace (without citation) when no comparison exists.

"Racist" is a distraction actual racist use to subvert the point.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Literally no other reason. You hate because CNN tells you to.

You want reasons.... how about he is a narcissistic, egomaniac, bullying, whoremongering, sexist, racist, abusive, power drunk, rude, vindictive, condescending, petty, childish, spoiled, deceitful, pathological lying piece of crap who thinks he is better than everybody else because his daddy left him millions. So yeah, I don't like that type of person. I'm funny that way!!

 

[Veerman_12]

You want reasons.... how about he is a narcissistic, egomaniac, bullying, whoremongering, sexist, racist, abusive, power drunk, rude, vindictive, condescending, petty, childish, spoiled, deceitful, pathological lying piece of crap who thinks he is better than everybody else because his daddy left him millions. So yeah, I don't like that type of person. I'm funny that way!!

1. He doesn't drink (at all). Lie

2. "Racist" - He's not.

3. The rest of that is all based on nothing but opinion.

You have TDS. Period.

 

[Veerman_12]

Did you read this article? The Miami popo Chief was a white supremicist.

The phrase was considered to have contributed to the city's race riots in the late 1960s.

So Trump chooses THAT motto for dealing with the volatile situation unfolding in Minneapolis? But you don’t address THAT, only whether the quote was attributed to the correct racist. You guys are something.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

power drunk is an expression that has nothing to do with alcohol, dimwit.

You may want to ask the blacks who were refused at "No Blacks Allowed" NYC Trump Properties if he is a racist. A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

Nice try, Squeaky!!

 

[hoopsrus6]

Did you read this article? The Miami popo Chief was a white supremicist.

The phrase was considered to have contributed to the city's race riots in the late 1960s.

So Trump chooses THAT motto for dealing with the volatile situation unfolding in Minneapolis? But you don’t address THAT, only whether the quote was attributed to the correct racist. You guys are something.

Yes I read it, nice deflection, did you forget to tell us where you sourced that BS?

I accept your retraction for incorrectly ascribing the quote to that racist POS George Wallace and promoting fake news on this forum.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Yes Mitch, fake news is only acceptable if trumpy says or tweets it.

 

[Veerman_12]

power drunk is an expression that has nothing to do with alcohol, dimwit.

You may want to ask the blacks who were refused at "No Blacks Allowed" NYC Trump Properties if he is a racist. A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

Nice try, Squeaky!!

50 years ago. Meanwhile Biden made an extremely racist statement a week ago and no condemnation from you. TDS

 

[Veerman_12]

yes, it was attributed to the wrong racist.
But when you can’t defend Trumps actions your only option is to deflect. Pathetic. A grown up would say that’s a horrible choice by Trump.

I'm sure it was an innocent mistake on your part...

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Joe apologized, something trumpy would never do.

 

[Stop n Go]

Trump is really racist. He doesn’t have the FBI or the DOJ looking into the death of Floyd or anything.

 

[Veerman_12]

Joe apologized, something trumpy would never do.

When Trump publicly marginalizes half of black America while cringily "talking black" on a podcast. Then I'll want an apology from him.

 

[Cheetah King]

Let me contribute to the suck of this thread.

The cops involved in this need to be arrested, NOW, given a fair trial and then given the stiffest sentence possible.

2. Rioting and destroying property and endangering lives of those innocent is not ok either. It is like being upset at the Chinese government and burning down a wok and roll in retaliation.

3. Tweets like Trump’s are the lowest of the low and it is the reason why is so unpopular. NO defending that. Still better than Biden who is an actual racist and not mentally competent but like 2016 it is a race to the bottom.

4. The white liberal virtue signaling over this is nauseating. Apart from a few bigots pretty much everyone agrees this is awful and needs to addressed. It seems to be this is turning into a huge straw man argument that if you aren’t ok with looting then you may as well be a southern plantation owner circa 1840.

5. Can we be sophisticated enough to agree the guilty should be punished and the innocent not and be able to tell the difference between them?

 

[hb1025]

Well they just need to get Obama to take control of things since he did an outstanding job in Ferguson

 

[Expect2Win]

What Joe Biden said was dumb and dismissive of the African American voter. It is not disqualifying but should make an African American think twice.
Joe Biden's comment has NOTHING to do with Minneapolis. Anyone complaining about Biden's comment when Trump is telling the governor to have his police shoot his own people.
Bringing up Biden now, says Trump can not be defended.

 

[Veerman_12]

What Joe Biden said was dumb and dismissive of the African American voter. It is not disqualifying but should make an African American think twice.
Joe Biden's comment has NOTHING to do with Minneapolis. Anyone complaining about Biden's comment when Trump is telling the governor to have his police shoot his own people.
Bringing up Biden now, says Trump can not be defended.

Let's be clear, what Biden said was only brought up because @kaskaskiakid thinks the common zoning practices Trump happened to participate in 50 years ago are relevant when discussing Trump's view on race today.

I simply pointed out that Biden made a VERY racially insensitive comment less than two weeks ago and wondered why Trump is being held (selectively) accountable for things he did 50 years ago, but Biden gets a pass for things he said 10 days ago?

 

[flatriverrats]

You want reasons.... how about he is a narcissistic, egomaniac, bullying, whoremongering, sexist, racist, abusive, power drunk, rude, vindictive, condescending, petty, childish, spoiled, deceitful, pathological lying piece of crap who thinks he is better than everybody else because his daddy left him millions. So yeah, I don't like that type of person. I'm funny that way!!