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Lockwood enrollment issues

Yes this exactly.

Part of the problem I believe is that people used to live in traditional neighborhoods with parks and ball fields and kids walked and rode bikes around town and played games like unstructured baseball every day during the summer. Now many people live out in rural subdivisions and kids are totally dependent on parents transportation to play with friends in any capacity. Even kids who live in town, parents are often afraid to let them roam around and probably for good reason these days. So parents are 100% involved in all aspects of playing ball now and not surprisingly have made it too complicated and structured and professional, and of course socioeconomically segregated as well.
You make some valid points.
 
What's sad is that high school sports, especially football, are really meant for these towns with the declining populations. No disrespect to suburban communities, but Friday Night Lights just ain't that big of a deal in O'Fallon.

In my opinion, high school football is best-served in those working-class towns of 1,000-20,000 people. Towns like Moberly, California, and Hannibal all come to mind. These towns might not have the same individual talent, but the success of the team is more important to these places than the achievements of a single player. I could be way wrong on this, but I've never felt like communities in the STL area really rally around their local team or alma mater, but moreso root for or watch individual players. That might be because everybody attends commuter private schools now and the sense of community isn't as present.
 
What's sad is that high school sports, especially football, are really meant for these towns with the declining populations. No disrespect to suburban communities, but Friday Night Lights just ain't that big of a deal in O'Fallon.

In my opinion, high school football is best-served in those working-class towns of 1,000-20,000 people. Towns like Moberly, California, and Hannibal all come to mind. These towns might not have the same individual talent, but the success of the team is more important to these places than the achievements of a single player. I could be way wrong on this, but I've never felt like communities in the STL area really rally around their local team or alma mater, but moreso root for or watch individual players. That might be because everybody attends commuter private schools now and the sense of community isn't as present.

I think you are right, especially in this area around SWMo. You have seen alot of growth in communities outside of Joplin and Springfield in the last decade just for this reason. In Springfield there is no sense of community if you go to say a Kickapoo or Glendale. But move to a one high school town like Ozark or Nixa and yeah you see that. If you look at Joplin they could have split into two schools, but I remember when they did have two schools it split the sense of belonging because you were not a Joplin eagle, but either a Parkwood Bear or Memorial Eagle, the town was split.

Now you see towns like Log-Rog growing and it is people from Springfield who want their kids to have that small town pride, because Nixa and Ozark might soon have to build new high schools based on their growth. Stafford is growing along with Clever, people want what those towns can offer for their kids yet be close enough to Springfield that they can enjoy what they offer in the way of Jobs, eaters, and entertainment. Joplin people didn't move to Webb because of sports in the beginning while that was a nice trade off, they moved because it was a small community, smaller than Joplin especially back in the late 80's and early 90's. Now you are seeing CJ growing, Carthage is seeing some of that tool.
 
I think you are right, especially in this area around SWMo. You have seen alot of growth in communities outside of Joplin and Springfield in the last decade just for this reason. In Springfield there is no sense of community if you go to say a Kickapoo or Glendale. But move to a one high school town like Ozark or Nixa and yeah you see that. If you look at Joplin they could have split into two schools, but I remember when they did have two schools it split the sense of belonging because you were not a Joplin eagle, but either a Parkwood Bear or Memorial Eagle, the town was split.

Now you see towns like Log-Rog growing and it is people from Springfield who want their kids to have that small town pride, because Nixa and Ozark might soon have to build new high schools based on their growth. Stafford is growing along with Clever, people want what those towns can offer for their kids yet be close enough to Springfield that they can enjoy what they offer in the way of Jobs, eaters, and entertainment. Joplin people didn't move to Webb because of sports in the beginning while that was a nice trade off, they moved because it was a small community, smaller than Joplin especially back in the late 80's and early 90's. Now you are seeing CJ growing, Carthage is seeing some of that tool.

One of the best examples is Wardsville and Blair Oaks.
 
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Kids have a lot more different interest now at their disposal other than just sports.
 
Also one more thing, J-Rod went to the Webb City youth football board and convinced them to go back to just 2 youth teams per grade from 3. I am sure it has something to do with numbers going down and such in the lower grades. Numbers are starting to affect all towns in all grades, and I don't think it is just football.

I know in the last 10 years our local baseball and softball league went from almost 500 kids to just over 200 this last year. Travel ball is killing that program. Youth soccer numbers are down as more kids or should I say parents opt to go with club teams. Local basketball leagues are almost none existent now as kids now travel to Springfield to play in what parents consider more competitive leagues up there, hoping to give little junior a chance at stardom.

I was asking a family the other day about football and they said we just cannot afford it this year both in money and time, They said we are playing travel baseball and they have been gone every weekend so far this summer, they say they are just tapped out, and not just money but going non stop traveling all summer for games. Seems the cost of kids doing sports is slipping out of reach for many poor and middle class families. I really I blame travel ball...these coaches blow smoke up parents @$$ filling them with dreams of if you join my team your kid can play in college someday, when most of them are money rackets.

The numbers are down in the youth football program at Webb, but this year's 7th had 79 kids come out compared to when they were in 3-6th grade they had roughly around 52-56 kids. Coach Rod, didn't suggest them to go to 2 teams, he gave his blessing for them to do whatever they wanted. My son is on a 6th grade team and between their 3 teams last year they only had about 44-48 kids by the end of the year. I am glad they went to 2 teams.
 
The numbers are down in the youth football program at Webb, but this year's 7th had 79 kids come out compared to when they were in 3-6th grade they had roughly around 52-56 kids. Coach Rod, didn't suggest them to go to 2 teams, he gave his blessing for them to do whatever they wanted. My son is on a 6th grade team and between their 3 teams last year they only had about 44-48 kids by the end of the year. I am glad they went to 2 teams.

Well that is not what they exactly told the SW conference youth board when they said they were going to two teams. My understanding from listening to them was John asked for a meeting with the youth board and at that meeting approached the board with the idea of going back to two teams.
 
Well that is not what they exactly told the SW conference youth board when they said they were going to two teams. My understanding from listening to them was John asked for a meeting with the youth board and at that meeting approached the board with the idea of going back to two teams.

They needed to go back to 2 teams when they only had numbers in the mid 40s and to be honest I dont know what the other grades had out. I'm just talking just 6th grade here. Other grades could have less.

Going back to 2 teams? When did they ever have 2 teams? I'm honestly asking because ever since I moved here, they've had 3.
 
They needed to go back to 2 teams when they only had numbers in the mid 40s and to be honest I dont know what the other grades had out. I'm just talking just 6th grade here. Other grades could have less.

Going back to 2 teams? When did they ever have 2 teams? I'm honestly asking because ever since I moved here, they've had 3.

I want to say they went to 3 teams in 2011, we joined in 2012 because Joplin could not get back to 3 teams after the tornado, but dang so many years have passed my memory gets everything messed up. We were set to join the year before but Webb decided to go to three teams because of numbers.
Yes there is a breaking point where talent can be spread to thin.
 
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I want to say they went to 3 teams in 2011, we joined in 2012 because Joplin could not get back to 3 teams after the tornado, but dang so many years have passed my memory gets everything messed up. We were set to join the year before but Webb decided to go to three teams because of numbers.
Yes there is a breaking point where talent can be spread to thin.
it's daddy ball. Spreading talent too thin should be the last thing you worry about. Limit your numbers so kids get more snaps. More snaps means they're getting better.

Nobody cares who wins in 4th grade.
 
it's daddy ball. Spreading talent too thin should be the last thing you worry about. Limit your numbers so kids get more snaps. More snaps means they're getting better.

Nobody cares who wins in 4th grade.

If we could we would love to split into two teams, I think we figured at least 15-16 kids per team so about 30 kids minimum per grade to do that.

I am not going to tell another town how to run their program, but Webb's youth program has over the years even with three teams been very good. But who am I to tell them what is best for them.
But you also don't want to put kids in a position where they cannot succeed or could get another kid hurt. Some kids you just have to bring along a bit slower so they don't start to hate the game because they are getting beat up.
 
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Lockwood is a big class 1 school at 87 enrolled 9 to 11.
Everton and gc field teams with much fewer students.
Will their new conference put them on probation?

Lockwood isn't getting very many girls traveling from outside their school district for sports, but they do still get that for the boys playing football.
 
Lockwood isn't getting very many girls traveling from outside their school district for sports, but they do still get that for the boys playing football.
i saw in their board minutes they hired a girls bball coach last spring. Surely with 11 volleyball girls they'll make it work.
 
Traveling baseball kills me. I had a long posts typed up but I’ll leave it at that.

Hopefully my boys take after me and not my wife, and stink it up on the diamond so I don’t have to worry about it!
Traveling teams and parents are comical. Playing baseball 30 weeks out of the year, blaring "Old Town Road" and shot gunning White Claws from your Yeti cooler you put on your overdue credit card so you can yell at 8 year old kids at 7:45 am on a Sunday. Its the new American Dream!

But hey, maybe you'll get lucky and your kids will get into club soccer instead
 
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