Lock Them Up!
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It's great going back over the quotes these clowns made about the Clinton email 'outrage'.
Phew.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who disclosed the war plans in the chat this month, condemned Mrs. Clinton’s actions during a Fox News segment in November 2016.
“Any security professional — military, government or otherwise — would be fired on the spot for this type of conduct and criminally prosecuted for being so reckless with this kind of information,” he said.
Mr. Hegseth was also adamant that anyone engaging in similar acts should be summarily punished.
“People have gone to jail for one one-hundredth of what, even one one-thousandth of what Hillary Clinton did,” he said during a Fox Business segment that same month.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, another participant in the encrypted group chat, also voiced those sentiments in a Fox News appearance in 2016, when he was running for president.
“People are going to be held accountable if they broke the laws of this country,” he said. He added that “nobody is above the law, not even Hillary Clinton.”
Several Defense Department officials said on Monday that by putting U.S. war plans into a commercial chat app, Mr. Hegseth risked compromising national security — and had potentially violated the Espionage Act, a law that governs how national security information is handled.
But members of the group chat still pointed to Mrs. Clinton’s use of the private email server years later as they denounced the Justice Department for indicting President Trump in 2023 over his handling of classified documents.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/20/travel/things-to-do-Hilo.html
“How is it Hillary Clinton can delete 33,000 government emails on a private server yet President Trump gets indicted for having documents he could declassify?” Michael Waltz wrote on his Twitter account in 2023, when he was a representative from Florida.
Now people are referring to the alcoholic secretary of defense Pete as “WhiskiLeaks”. 😂🤣🥸
The Atlantic does the right thing and doesn’t divulge secret war plans. Then whiskileaks and pals go into denial and spew vitriol at the journalist.
So now the Atlantic posts some of the texts and shove it right up the maga arse. Now Tulsi says she wasn’t lying yesterday she just misremembered. Bahahahahaha
So now the Atlantic posts some of the texts and shove it right up the maga arse. Now Tulsi says she wasn’t lying yesterday she just misremembered. Bahahahahaha
it's refreshing to see some of the GOP showing some spine and at least admitting this is a problem.
what did they expect when you hire unqualified 'yes men' to lead our gubmint?
Phew.
The Espionage Act contains a provision that criminalizes the disclosure of national secrets through gross negligence.
The law does not require that the info be classified, it refers simply to national defense information.
The law does not require that the info be classified, it refers simply to national defense information.
Supposedly nothing classified and this same app was used by the last administration.
I see where Mike Waltz is taking the blame.
My questions are how Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic editor got on the app and why he felt compelled to publish.
I see where Mike Waltz is taking the blame.
My questions are how Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic editor got on the app and why he felt compelled to publish.
He didn’t publish. Until they lied about it.
The NSA specifically told them not to use Signal.
But go ahead and do your whataboutism and messenger blaming instead of just saying what everyone knows.
I keep hearing right leaning folks say why would they give that info out. Anyone who really thinks that any news source, right or left leaning, that would inadvertently receive that type of information and just sit on it is full of bull. The news is entertainment and for profit.
it's clear that anything that is negative to trump is always a 'hoax' or a 'witch hunt' and they accept zero responsibility. ...eventually even the MAGAts will have to see that. Right?
They are caught dead to rights here. They did wrong. They screwed up. Be an adult and own it and learn from it.
Phew.
Not sure what I said is whataboutism and messenger blaming?
I know I am the minority on here and I know they screwed up but I see them taking more responsibility than the Clinton email scandal. And I don’t think the Atlantic should have published.
Some things here:
They're not taking responsibility. Who has stated 'this is my fault"?
The best part is the folks involved were ALL OVER clinton about the email server..yet they're using SIGNAL. Gimme a break. That's for POSs. No way no how should anyone that isn't doing wrong be using Signal. They're breaking the law by not preserving records.
The Atlantic should absolutely publish. This is a story that the American public needs told. We see the utter incompetence on display already. Trump picked a bunch of flunkies and yes men and it's already paying off.
Phew.
I’ve seen this on multiple sites.
Donald Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Waltz, said on Tuesday he takes “full responsibility” for the group chat of senior administration officials that inadvertently included a journalist and leaked highly sensitive information about planned airstrikes in Yemen.
They said in a hearing yesterday that nothing was confidential. Subsequently the Atlantic published.
What?
Was this before or after he said that he had just spoken with Musk and that they have the “best technical minds” looking at how this happened, insinuating that Goldberg hacked into it.
Honestly I don’t know but I saw it on NBC and at least two others. One being the Guardian.
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Private insecure personal server and smashing phones. We will never know.
CNN
“Top aides Huma Abedin and Monica Hanley, as well as another person whose name is redacted, also helped Clinton set up her BlackBerry.
According to Abedin and Hanley, Clinton’s old devices would often disappear to parts “unknown once she transitioned to a new device.”
Cooper, according to the report, “did recall two instances where he destroyed Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer.”
She shared classified information.
“In 2016, the FBI investigated Clinton’s emails, and then-Director James Comey found evidence that Clinton was “extremely careless”using a private server but that her actions were not enough to merit an indictment.
A total of 113 emails from Clinton’s email contained information that was classified at the time they were sent or received, Comey found, and another roughly 2,000 emails were classified later.”
The current admin has some serious problems, but you want to take it back to Hillary’s emails still. You are a comedian. The essence of whataboutism.
Current and former US officials have told CNN they believe two texts sent by national security adviser Mike Waltz and CIA Director John Ratcliffe in the now-infamous group chat involving senior US officials discussing battle plans to strike Houthi targets in Yemen, may have done long-term damage to the US’s ability to gather intelligence on the Iran-backed group going forward.
Although messages from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth detailing the sequencing, timing and weapons to be used in a March attack on the Houthis have drawn the most scrutiny because they could have endangered US servicemembers if revealed, the messages from Waltz and Ratcliffe, in the chat Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg was added to, contained equally sensitive information, these sources said.
In one of the messages, Ratcliffe told other Cabinet members who were discussing whether to delay the strikes that the CIA was in the act of mobilizing assets to collect intelligence on the group, but that a delay might offer them the opportunity to “identify better starting points for coverage on Houthi leadership.”
That text, according to the current and former officials, exposed the mere fact that the US is gathering intelligence on them — bad in and of itself — but also hinted at how the agency is doing it. The language about “starting points,” these people said, suggests clearly that the CIA is using technical means like overhead surveillance to spy on their leadership. That could allow the Houthis to change their practices to better protect themselves.
Then, in a later message, Waltz offered an extremely specific after-action report of the strikes, telling the thread that the military had “positive ID” of a particular senior Houthi leader “walking into his girlfriend’s building” — offering the Houthis a clear opportunity to see who the US was surveilling and potentially figure out how, thus enabling them to avoid that surveillance in the future, the sources said.
Current and former US officials have told CNN they believe two texts sent by national security adviser Mike Waltz and CIA Director John Ratcliffe in the now-infamous group chat involving senior US officials discussing battle plans to strike Houthi targets in Yemen, may have done long-term damage to the US’s ability to gather intelligence on the Iran-backed group going forward.
Although messages from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth detailing the sequencing, timing and weapons to be used in a March attack on the Houthis have drawn the most scrutiny because they could have endangered US servicemembers if revealed, the messages from Waltz and Ratcliffe, in the chat Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg was added to, contained equally sensitive information, these sources said.
In one of the messages, Ratcliffe told other Cabinet members who were discussing whether to delay the strikes that the CIA was in the act of mobilizing assets to collect intelligence on the group, but that a delay might offer them the opportunity to “identify better starting points for coverage on Houthi leadership.”
That text, according to the current and former officials, exposed the mere fact that the US is gathering intelligence on them — bad in and of itself — but also hinted at how the agency is doing it. The language about “starting points,” these people said, suggests clearly that the CIA is using technical means like overhead surveillance to spy on their leadership. That could allow the Houthis to change their practices to better protect themselves.
Then, in a later message, Waltz offered an extremely specific after-action report of the strikes, telling the thread that the military had “positive ID” of a particular senior Houthi leader “walking into his girlfriend’s building” — offering the Houthis a clear opportunity to see who the US was surveilling and potentially figure out how, thus enabling them to avoid that surveillance in the future, the sources said.
I can appreciate you think I’m funny.
As I have stated they did screw up.
I will say it again we all flipped the script. Me included.
When it’s all said and done both this one and Clinton’s was about sharing classified material.
I didn’t flip anything. Most of us said at the time, Clinton was stupid for using that server. But no one said that Clinton divulged war plans that might jeopardize people in the field.
