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Kim Anderson is the worst coach in Mizzou history.

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In any sport. He is an embarrassment.
No improvement. Longest losing streak ever
against one of the worst schedules in school history.
He has no idea what he is doing.
Anyone who says otherwise is clueless.
 
Kim said, "he would bring back hard noised, tough, fundamental defense." To be fair.......he didn't say when he would do it.
 
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Lets see if you can do better with the roster that he has.
 
After a slow start the Tigers were showing some improvement about mid season. They last to Illinois on a buzzer beater desperation shot. They beat a fairly good LSU team. They lost to Arkansas by two missed free throws. After that things went bad in a hurry. Loosing Clark was a blow as he seemed to be the one that held the team together. Loosing to a mediocre Vanderbilt team by 25, more or less, was a disgrace. There must be a problem with team chemistry. Anderson inherited a bunch of young talented players, but who knows how coachable they are. Give him a couple of years to assemble his own team and see what happens. Then we can judge his coaching ability.
 
Re:Why is Kim Anderson the worst coach in Mizzou history.

I have been reading comments about Kim Anderson, the new basketball coach @ Missouri. Some are calling Kim a bad coach but do not give reasons that make him a bad coach. If we gave Kim Anderson a fair and just evaluation, would we label Kim as a bad first year D-1 basketball coach?

1. Did Kim Anderson do a good job of hiring asst. coaches?

2. Did Kim adjust to the talent on hand @ Missouri or did the talent @ Missouri adjust to Kim's " Style of play" ?

3. Kim first recruiting class @ Missouri, was it successful?

4. Kim's second year's recruiting class @ Missouri ( VanLeer 6'4", Puryear 6'7" and Phillip 5'11" ) All 3-stars--How did Kim do on his second recruiting class @ Missouri?

5. Kim promised defensive improvement---Did the " Missouri staff " improve the defensive fundamentals?

6. What are some other things that " Kim Anderson " should be judged?



This post was edited on 2/22 6:45 PM by metro-dude
 
Re:Why is Kim Anderson the worst coach in Mizzou history.

I don't know about those 3 star recruits for next year, but Marcus Marshall, Frank Kaminsky and Seth Tuttle were all 3 star recruits, they sure would look good in Black & Gold.

I agreed with hiring a Missouri guy, I think it's important to have those Tiger roots. Regardless of what you think about the Tigers talent, Anderson has done a poor job of coaching this years team, his rotations and combinations make you scratch your head.
 
All he needs to win...

Is a roster like he had at Central last year.

16 players on roster - 13 of those transfers - 10 jr or sr.

His last four years at Central, 10-11 - one freshman on team
11-12 - one freshman on team
12-13 - zero freshman on team
13-14 - three freshman on team

This year at Mizzou - 5 freshman on team. Same number as he had on his teams total in the last 4 years.

Seems like he had the same philosophy as Frank Haith - living off transfers.

Why would anyone expect him to be able to coach freshmen when he has never had to. I would expect it to be easier to coach more mature players, especially when they have already transferred once and their options are limited.

Maybe that explains all of the discipline issues.
 
I'd say that anyone who judges a coach while he's still in his first year with a program is clueless. Especially clueless with regards to this particular situation. It's the drive through, fast food give me my service now,world we live in. Sometimes things take time.
 
Totally agree Rock... People want results now, but do not want to build it the right way! Only way to do that is to get Calipari in there! Kim has not had time to get his own players in there and also, losing your only leader will kill a team. I think it will get better and MU will be better off for it down the road! They were ready to fire Pinkle too when he had average years!!!
 
Most Missouri fans are willing to give Kim Anderson three years as head coach @ Missouri but only if " Progress " is being made each year leading up to the third year. The question is and let's be fair------Has progress been made to date this year? Can the new Athletic Director give Kim a third year if the second year results are the same as the first?







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Originally posted by metro-dude:
Most Missouri fans are willing to give Kim Anderson three years as head coach @ Missouri but only if " Progress " is being made each year leading up to the third year. The question is and let's be fair------Has progress been made to date this year? Can the new Athletic Director give Kim a third year if the second year results are the same as the first?







This post was edited on 2/23 12:45 PM by metro-dude
I don't think he gets a third year if they don't improve some. I don't think the fanbase could take a second year of 8-24 or something like that. He's going to have to get to double digit wins and probably 4 wins in conference.

The SEC has some poor teams at the low end; Mizzou really should be able to win 4 games in that conference without breaking a sweat.
 
Re: All he needs to win...

I hope he doesn't rely on transfers. It is very hard to win at the D1 level relying on transfers to fill your team. One or two is fine. Don't make a team out of it. D2 level is a little bit different when you are getting D1 transfers to fill your D2 roster.
 
No one expected final four, but good god man 20+ losses against this crap schedule?
Lets be real. He has taken mediocre talent and laid a big egg.
 
Crap schedule??

Mizzou had played a top 10 strength of schedule according to nearly all of the ranking services. Mediocre talent is being generous. How many minutes would either of our big men get on any other SEC team? He's also endured 7 players being suspended at some point and lost who had become the team's best player. The results haven't been good but your bias is clearly showing.
 
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Missouri has an RPI of 196 and has 2 top 150 wins. 51 LSU and 64 Valpo. It goes without saying that Anderson has failed miserably this year but and obviously when a team quits like it apparently has a lot of that goes back on the coach but Anderson has proven to be at least a pretty good coach up to now in his career so I think most of the blame should go where it belongs, on the players who obviously who have mailed it in, or worse. I don't know that John Wooden could do much with the team Missouri has at this point.
 
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how sad is it that a coach that died in 2010 could get more out of the Tigers than Anderson. MU wins tonight.
 
The clueless people are the ones that are too dim witted to see that Kim Anderson took over a train wreck that was engineered by Frank Haith. Anderson had none of his players here when he came in or any players that fit his style. You are clueless not to give him a few years to get his people in place. He has got some good recruits coming in, but clueless people do not realize that it takes time to recruit and get your players in place. I'd give the original post the award for the most clueless post of the year on MoSports.
 
Originally posted by SouthBank:
The clueless people are the ones that are too dim witted to see that Kim Anderson took over a train wreck that was engineered by Frank Haith. Anderson had none of his players here when he came in or any players that fit his style. You are clueless not to give him a few years to get his people in place. He has got some good recruits coming in, but clueless people do not realize that it takes time to recruit and get your players in place. I'd give the original post the award for the most clueless post of the year on MoSports.
Some of this is true, but there are other things one can point out that go against this:

- It's hard to be this bad; the talent on the floor at MU isn't Kentucky but they should be able to win 12 games.
- They didn't get any better as the season went on. For all the young team talk they didn't develop at all.
- He ran off the kids were going to be Haith's best players. He hasn't replaced them with a good recruiting class of 2015. This team is set up to suck again.
 
Where are those saying Mizzou hasn't shown any improvement? Why aren't you saying they have after a few wins lately?
 
So you won't say progress has been made recently. I was pretty sure you wouldn't.
 
I've been somewhere watching HS ball so I haven't seen them but I have heard scores that say they have won games. Is that not progress?
 
Originally posted by 3Rfan:
I've been somewhere watching HS ball so I haven't seen them but I have heard scores that say they have won games. Is that not progress?
No. Cow thinks they should be 20-10. He doesn't believe their talent level, size, and athleticism is awful compared to their opponents almost nightly. He doesn't believe FFH left a dumpster fire. He also believes that the team shouldn't suffer through injuries or suspensions. And to answer his inevitable question...Post has gotten better. Wright has gotten better. Shamburger has gotten better. Some players still refuse to buy in. They will be gone. Roster will see some major turnover. And guys like Cow will pi$$ and moan because the record won't be pretty next year either. MU "fans" that already want KA gone should realize this...For as big of a joke as he was (and continues to be), FFH was going to get a fourth year as MU HC. No matter the team progressively got worse under him, and players continually made the same boneheaded mistakes game after game after game. Three years into his tenure, not one person could identify what FFH's teams were about. No identity at all. In fact, that was their identity. He knew what he'd "built" was so bad it was going to get him fired after year four, so he left on his own. THAT GUY was going to get four years. Chill, and watch somebody build it the right way. And in three or four years, if it's still bad you get to move on. And save me the "it'll be so bad" no coach would want it crap. MU will have to do something they've not been willing to do...PAY. $3.5M would've gotten just about whomever they wanted the last time. But, as per usual, they went cheap.
 
In no universe outside of hiring calipari is a basketball coach going to make more than pinkel.

The rest of your post is revisionist history, per usual. I said this team was going to be bad. I said I didn't care how many games they won, I just wanted to see improvement. Leaving behind a young team isn't the same as leaving being a dumpster fire. There is a good core of young players on this team.

Question Eagles: where is the improvement that you promised KA would bring. Still too short of a stretch for KA to improve this team one iota?
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To 3R: they've won 9 games this year. 9-22. They just scored 43 points against a bad Mississippi state team. No improvement from the beginning of the season. No help on the recruiting front.

Kim needs a .500 or better season next year to keep his job, especially with a new boss and no equity built up. The schedule is easier next year. There is no reason he shouldn't get to .500.
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Originally posted by wcowherd:
In no universe outside of hiring calipari is a basketball coach going to make more than pinkel...MU mindset. Always a lil bro. Gotta pay these days. They've got the pockets to do it. No reason not to.

Question Eagles: where is the improvement that you promised KA would bring. Still too short of a stretch for KA to improve this team one iota? You just choose to ignore what I put in the post above?
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Originally posted by wcowherd:
To 3R: they've won 9 games this year. 9-22. They just scored 43 points against a bad Mississippi state team. No improvement from the beginning of the season. No help on the recruiting front.

Kim needs a .500 or better season next year to keep his job, especially with a new boss and no equity built up. The schedule is easier next year. There is no reason he shouldn't get to .500.
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Btw, that bad Mississipi State team had the two best players on the court. And you're right, they are bad. But that's how bad the talent level is at MU. I get you don't agree with me on that, but that fact alone should clue you in a bit. But, it won't. One thing I like about you, you're hard headed. A trait I can admire.
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Post has gone from abysmal to simply terrible. So congrats KA. Sham and wright are the same players. Not sure what you base their improvement on. How about the team at large? Are they better than the start of the season? I think it's quite obvious they are.

As far as a basketball coach not making more than pinkel...pinkel got Mizzou to the SEC. Football pays the bills for the AD. Mizzou is a football school. They aren't Kentucky. Football will always be king, and you will see the AD spend resources accordingly.
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Originally posted by wcowherd:
Post has gone from abysmal to simply terrible. So congrats KA. Sham and wright are the same players. Not sure what you base their improvement on. How about the team at large? Are they better than the start of the season? I think it's quite obvious they are.

As far as a basketball coach not making more than pinkel...pinkel got Mizzou to the SEC. Football pays the bills for the AD. Mizzou is a football school. They aren't Kentucky. Football will always be king, and you will see the AD spend resources accordingly.
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Then bump Pinkie when you hire a big-time bball coach. Or keep getting who they've been getting. The money is there. But for whatever reason, they decide to be small time. If Pinkie was about the success of the university athletic department, and not just the football program, you'd think he wouldn't get his panties in a bunch if a bball coach got paid like he did. Fact is, one of two things will have to happen to clean the mess up. CMA sort of did that, but left his own new mess (no recruits) when he went to Arky. FFH put a band aide over it for a short period, but left his own mess as well. MU faithful are either going to have to be patient for the next couple of years and see if KA can fix it long term and actually leave it in a good place for the next guy, or they're going to have to open up their pocketbooks for a home run hire to fix it immediately. And by immediately, I mean hiring someone that's a splash and an immediate hit with recruits. Truthfully, I don't see them doing either. But a new AD could change that. Hell, he did hire Kelvin Sampson.

You asked for improvement. Comparing Sham and Wright has nothing to do with how each have improved. And they are both better now than they were at the beginning of the year. As is Post. KA did something with him that FFH couldn't do. Clark was showing much better play from the previous season in the few games I saw before his injury. I think they are better than they were at the beginning of the season, especially when you consider they're playing without their PG and arguably best player.
 
What I meant was sham and wright have not improved from the beginning of the year. I'm curious what you base their improvement on. Post was still a bad player. It's not like KA turned him into an even serviceable big man. Not sure why you want to give much credit KA for that.

Well, they just scored 43 points against Mississippi state, finished last in conference, and lost 13 of their last 15 (that includes Clark, by the way) and their 2 wins were against a bad auburn team at home and a mediocre Florida team at home without their two top scorers.

But yeah, you're right. Massive improvement from the beginning of the year.
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Originally posted by wcowherd:
What I meant was sham and wright have not improved from the beginning of the year. I'm curious what you base their improvement on. Post was still a bad player. It's not like KA turned him into an even serviceable big man. Not sure why you want to give much credit KA for that.

Well, they just scored 43 points against Mississippi state, finished last in conference, and lost 13 of their last 15 (that includes Clark, by the way) and their 2 wins were against a bad auburn team at home and a mediocre Florida team at home without their two top scorers.

But yeah, you're right. Massive improvement from the beginning of the year.
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Don't mention during that span that they lost many games to suspension, Gill-Ceaser has played hurt all year, and Clark was lost for the remainder of the season. I get it, it doesn't fit your agenda. You should go to Tigerboard and talk to Fiji. Or maybe you are Fiji...Fact remains, you're butt hurt they didn't get a name and that no-name ran off a player or two you thought could help. And you, and the rest of the world that demands instant results, use anything you can to fit your agenda. Your opinion and mine differ. I think, given the same amount of time FFH was given, KA will have the program in a spot that can sustain success. You disagree. And you bitch and moan about it. And you're an MU fan. And I'm not. Weird.

Here's what's going to happen if the MU people don't support KA. He'll get run after his third year. Between years two and three, he won't get any players because they'll all know he's going to get fired. And then MU will hire some mid-major guy (or Kelvin Sampson) for $1.4M. And they'll be in a deeper hole than they were before. And this is how programs end up where Auburn has been for quite a while. And where Tennessee is headed. All because people like you have seem to decided KA can't coach D-I basketball after less than 30 games. I could be wrong, but I'm smart enough to realize the man needs time to clean up the program. And I'm smart enough to know that FFH did leave a mess and a roster void of anything resembling talent.
 
I spent the last half hour on google skimming 2014 KA articles/write ups/features/previews/etc

I challenge any remaining apologists to go back and read all the Mizzou and or KA write ups and season previews from his hire through the train wreck of losses in year one.

If you get nauseous, take Dramamine, because son of a bitch I found it infuriating.
(Realistic bubble team predictions, 20-23ish wins, hard nosed defense, Bill Self offense, identifying and playing to strengths, ace recruiters, Gary Link's face palm on playing defense at intro press conference)
Shit I need a drink
 
Don't mention during that span that they lost many games to suspension, Gill-Ceaser has played hurt all year, and Clark was lost for the remainder of the season. I get it, it doesn't fit your agenda. You should go to Tigerboard and talk to Fiji. Or maybe you are Fiji...Fact remains, you're butt hurt they didn't get a name and that no-name ran off a player or two you thought could help. And you, and the rest of the world that demands instant results, use anything you can to fit your agenda. Your opinion and mine differ. I think, given the same amount of time FFH was given, KA will have the program in a spot that can sustain success. You disagree. And you bitch and moan about it. And you're an MU fan. And I'm not. Weird.

Here's what's going to happen if the MU people don't support KA. He'll get run after his third year. Between years two and three, he won't get any players because they'll all know he's going to get fired. And then MU will hire some mid-major guy (or Kelvin Sampson) for $1.4M. And they'll be in a deeper hole than they were before. And this is how programs end up where Auburn has been for quite a while. And where Tennessee is headed. All because people like you have seem to decided KA can't coach D-I basketball after less than 30 games. I could be wrong, but I'm smart enough to realize the man needs time to clean up the program. And I'm smart enough to know that FFH did leave a mess and a roster void of anything resembling talent.

Hilarious. And spot on.
 
What I meant was sham and wright have not improved from the beginning of the year. I'm curious what you base their improvement on. Post was still a bad player. It's not like KA turned him into an even serviceable big man. Not sure why you want to give much credit KA for that.

Well, they just scored 43 points against Mississippi state, finished last in conference, and lost 13 of their last 15 (that includes Clark, by the way) and their 2 wins were against a bad auburn team at home and a mediocre Florida team at home without their two top scorers.

But yeah, you're right. Massive improvement from the beginning of the year.
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You could also have shared this one again, the story hasn't changed that this team has shown zero improvement and is going to finish last or almost last in the SEC
 
You could also have shared this one again, the story hasn't changed that this team has shown zero improvement and is going to finish last or almost last in the SEC
Anyone who wants to defend KA at this point is a joke. He's not delivered on any of the promises that the KA defenders promised hed bring. Defense? It's worse than ever. Toughness? This team is weaker than tissue paper. Competitiveness? Not a single top 150 win and blowout losses to any team with a pulse. Recruiting? Heck, he can't even keep the half-decent players he inherited here. Fundamentals? This team is 98th in the country in turnovers and 273rd in rebounding.

I don't need to rub that in how wrong people were about KA.
 
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