Went out to get my mail and guess what was there delivered by the people Trump wants to put out of business. Hs friggen letter patting himself on the back about how he saved my life with the stimulus check. What a waste of tax payer money. Can't wait to hear the spin on this .
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Well the post office needs to financially figure out how to stand on its own and not on the backs of tax payers.
We don't need another company living on tax payer welfare ....honestly.
Alot, but let's try to roll that back and you will see just as Many Dems crying as Pubs because many of those defense contract benefit Dem owned states too.
Did you get your check??? Guess I'll be last because I don't file taxes electronically.
I'm sure you're right but we can't continue adding to the deficit like we are now. Why can't we use some of that money on infrastructure or other places to keep jobs.
Wait what? By spending that money we are keeping jobs? So... if you want to just cut it fine, but what you are suggesting is cutting it causing layoffs in one area then adding it back to create jobs in another?
Then how do we cut the $730Trillion defense budget - that's more than the next 12 countries combined - that's crazy
Do you think planes,tanks ,ships last forever?Do you think we don't have to keep up with technology that other countries have now?
Obama made deep cuts to the military and now we are paying for it.Obama had 8 years to shut down the F-35 for cost overruns but did nothing.
I'm sure there are cuts that can be made to the military and to a lot of other programs
Obama made deep cuts to the military and now we are paying for it.Obama had 8 years to shut down the F-35 for cost overruns but did nothing.
I'm sure there are cuts that can be made to the military and to a lot of other programs
Exactly how are we paying for it now? We are not at war now. Unless trumpy drags us into one somewhere, I don't see anybody invading us anytime soon. I'm not saying just stop building planes and ships, even though I doubt we have a great shortage of either. We throw money away all over the world to countries that are allies one decade and enemies the next, military bases all over the globe, getting involved in other countries civil wars, Outer Space Air Force. And our national debt is growing by almost 20% this year alone - $3.7 trillion.
We spend $730 billion on defense and $70 billion on education. That's > 1/10th.
We have to stop being the world's police force.
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You may be quoting our Orange Messiah there.
I sense the evolution to MAGAt in your future.
I have been saying that for years!! I have stated on here I agreed with trumpy that we should get out of the Middle East. He talked a good game but hasn't done it.
Got mine pretty quick! Direct deposit, but I'm surprised the letter I got today didn't say vote for me this money came right out of my pocket!
I got the letter today to too, got the money April 15th. Why send that letter out now?
Lets just talk military planes,they only last for so many hours and then you take them out of service.Now they are like a car where after so many hours they get maintenance until they reach they say around 135,000 hours then they take them out of service.About70% of the F-15 and F-18 are close or have exceeded that amount of hours,so they need to be replaced.
The F-35 is supposed to be the cadillac of fighter planes but they cost a butt load.This plane is a major reason the military budget is so high.Cost over runs out the a$$.
Yes we are not at war but you don't wait until we are at war to build planes.I'm sure there are ways to cut military spending. I'm sure you can say that with education,public housing and many more programs.
There are people who don't know about the program, don't know if they qualify, and don't know if they can spend it.I got the letter today to too, got the money April 15th. Why send that letter out now?
There are people who may have not received the checks they are entitled to. This lets them know they should have it.
A quick check - US has 3,300 combat planes, Russia 1,900, China 1,500, India 1,000, Egypt 900. I would guess these numbers would correspond with other military equipment like tanks.
Given your premise that 70% of our military planes need to be replaced would leave us with 900 planes still available. Do we really need 2,400 new planes? And how many of those other countries have outdated ;planes, too?
If we are to go down the path of isolationism, "America First", as Trump proposes and I agree with, and stop being the world's police force, we need to cut military expenses across the board.
Hey I get it. You work in the plane building industry. I have a retired brother who worked his entire life working for McDon Douglas, Boeing, and Saberliner.
The fact is, our military mega industry is more about business and jobs than it is about maintaining our military might in the world. Again, we spend more in military/defense than the next 12 countries combined. That is crazy for a country at peace and has a national debt that is going out of control.
But I guess that is future generations problem, just like the environment.
Given your premise that 70% of our military planes need to be replaced would leave us with 900 planes still available. Do we really need 2,400 new planes? And how many of those other countries have outdated ;planes, too?
If we are to go down the path of isolationism, "America First", as Trump proposes and I agree with, and stop being the world's police force, we need to cut military expenses across the board.
Hey I get it. You work in the plane building industry. I have a retired brother who worked his entire life working for McDon Douglas, Boeing, and Saberliner.
The fact is, our military mega industry is more about business and jobs than it is about maintaining our military might in the world. Again, we spend more in military/defense than the next 12 countries combined. That is crazy for a country at peace and has a national debt that is going out of control.
But I guess that is future generations problem, just like the environment.
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Oh it's not going to change. Defense contractors are strong lobbyists. Politicians want those jobs in their states. National debt be damned. Spend and print more money. It will be someone else's problem.
Since everyone has a different idea what is unnecessary spending, just cut ALL spending (not total, each area) 5%.
How about the fly over for medical workers? That was a nice gesture but how much do you think it cost US? The Blue Angels AND the Thunderbirds and throw in a couple of B-52's. That was quite the expensive show of support.
I said everything....How each dept cuts their spending matters not to me.How about the fly over for medical workers? That was a nice gesture but how much do you think it cost US? The Blue Angels AND the Thunderbirds and throw in a couple of B-52's. That was quite the expensive show of support.
Glad to hear you're ok with such waste of money. Just cost of the fuel they used would feed a lot of folks that area out of work right now. I wonder how many bridges could be built for the cost of that show of gratitude?
A 5% reduction in US defense spending would still be $694 billion. China spends $261B, India $71B, Russia $65B, Germany $45B. I just don't understand why we have to spend that much more than other countries.
If you can't educate the masses on 70 billion than I blame the Parents,Teachers and the Culture that surrounds the Students. Getting a Education is not about More Money and More bell's and whistles. It's about taking Personal responsibility and working and striving to learn. If a Education isn't a priority and highly valued then no amount of money is going to help.... You can Lead a Horse to water but you can't make it drink...
We have to maintain the War Machine it's simple as that, you always want to be the Biggest dog in the Pack. America has to be the most advanced and well trained Fighting force on the Planet.
I would pull out of NATO and Let Europe fend for themselves, and focus on the Pacific and the Middle East. But the Military Complex must not be gutted.
We base our Military and Budget on the ability to fight more than One Conflict at a time. Let's say we are engaged in a Conflict with North Korea in the Pacific and then Iran decides that this is the perfect time to cause a Issue in the Gulf and disrupt the Oil supply and to sow Chaos. To fight multiple fronts takes a lot of money.
We also support 1.3 million active military personal and 800K plus reserves. China has 2.2 million active personal but they are not as well trained or as well equipped as our fighting force. So we are making up for our smaller force with more expensive equipment and better training. I suppose if a Conflict breaks out we could bring back the Draft but in this day and age that would have to be a last ditch effort.
I Believe that keeping a Large Volunteer Armed force with many being career soldiers with solid benefits(huge Cost) is necessary and more desirable than cutting expenses reducing the size,and then if we need to having to out lay more money to ramp back up the Military complex to combat a threat that will Happen. We made that mistake after WW1.....let's not repeat history.
So you don't care about the deficit just certain parts of it meaning nothing will be done.
Across the board cuts means EVERYONE loses some. Guess you are too stingy to help.Glad to hear you're ok with such waste of money. Just cost of the fuel they used would feed a lot of folks that area out of work right now. I wonder how many bridges could be built for the cost of that show of gratitude?
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