Is anyone familiar with the split back veer?
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I feel like I need to face palm myself and pretty hard too.
Bill Yeoman was the greatest. Guy would talk with you for hours if you'd give him a call.
Lou Holtz ran a good veer when he was at William & Mary then at Arkansas.
Outside veer still the hardest play in football to stop when it's ran correctly
We ran that out of the flex for years and it was unstoppable. Felt running the veer out of flex is better than split back.
He has been in retirement land last few years. I believe in a district championship game in 2007 he ran outside veer 52 times and won. He also had the Van Devender kid who was a stud at rb. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
They are making a comeback in a lot of other states. The schools that run those in Missouri typically have high-scoring offenses.
I personally don't like shotgun spread offenses. It requires a quarterback who is a true passer. I think in HS, it's too much to ask year in and year out, especially at small schools. With veer and 3 back offenses you need either a QB that can run or a RB that can throw. They are usually 6 play offenses, which allows you to focus on repetition and gives more time for defense when you run a 1 or 1.5 platoon practice.
I don't prefer shotgun spread offenses because the first thing that has to happen is a snap that travels through the air. Also, many places that run those types of offenses don't have the cats to run those types of offenses. I will say, though, that if your snap is 100% and your QB can at least throw quick game to a few decent athletes, you don't have to have fantastic linemen. But, I always say (as did the great Darrell Royal and Woody Hayes and others) that when you pass, 3 things can happen and 2 of them are bad.
By that same token, you also don't need great linemen to compete with split-back veer, flexbone, wishbone, etc. You don't need road-graders. You need guys who can double-team at the point of attack and not get split, guys who can get in a linebacker's way when coming off a combo and when veer-releasing, and guys who can scoop the backside (whether by cutting or by zone scooping). None of that requires great skill or ability.
A lot of the young coaches aren't as familiar with how to defend it, not as much info at clinics on it, only see it once or twice a season, etc. All good reasons to run it IMO.
Exactly. Half the D-coordinators out there don't (or can't) differentiate between midline, inside veer, and outside veer. Too many of them think the easy stunt, blood stunt, and 3-2 exchange are good for what ails you.
