I'd like to see Mizzou hire

[Veer2Eternity]

Unless you throw a bunch of money at him not sure why Campbell would leave Iowa State for MIZZOU... Its not exactly a step up.

Man that loss to ksu really has you boomers in lala land

Hahahahahha

 

[Veerman_12]

I think for equal money, you're right. That's the one advantage MU could have, the money. The SEC makes that possible. But Campbell makes $3.5M. Are you really going to throw that kind of money at him? I'd say you'd have to get to $4.5M to even make it worth his while...Same can really be said for Leach too. These guys aren't going to make a move purely for the competition in the SEC. You're going to have to outpay where they are. And Leach makes $3.75M. But Kiffin...He doesn't make near that. Just saying.

Mizzou has to realize you get what you pay for. Pay Cambell or Leach 4.5, 5 million and I think you keep them around for a while.

Leach's next stop is probably his last, but you COULD get a decade out of him.

Cambell or Fickel are both midwestern guys who have shown the ability to program build and not necessarily have a wandering eye.

For that matter, PJ Fleck should be in the conversation.

 

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Man that loss to ksu really has you boomers in lala land

Hahahahahha

I guess. It was an epic choke job but I disagree in that I think ISU is definitely a step down from Missouri unless you are an ISU native son. It would be a better debate is basketball but not in football.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Bring in Big Game Bob Stoops

 

[CoachFox-ScreamingEagles]

Dave Steckel

 

[Duck_walk]

I saw last night on HBO, Washington State’s stadium has a capacity of 33,000. Kind of shocking.

 

[Mofan79]

I saw last night on HBO, Washington State’s stadium has a capacity of 33,000. Kind of shocking.

Pullman's a unique place and Mike Leach is a unique guy and that is why it works

 

[2old2slow]

Doesn't matter. Has Missouri EVER been a player on College Football's main stage?

You need a history lesson

 

[Veerman_12]

Things that will never happen, but would be amazing...

Hire Jeff Monken from Army.

 

[J. Kane]

Paul Johnson

 

[KCHI]

You need a history lesson

I'm here, waiting for the lesson, Mr 2old2slow.

 

[Veerman_12]

And install the flexbone so we can witness Duck slowly pull out all of his hair live on MoSports.

Makes total sense. If you can't be "better" than your competition, be different.

We can't play or recruit at an SEC level, so let's be different.

Duck losing his mind would be an added bonus. Mizzou running flexbone and 4 more years of Trump...2020 would not be a good year for him.

 

[Veerman_12]

 

[deacon jones]

I'm here, waiting for the lesson, Mr 2old2slow.

Yeah, I'd like to hear that one, too.
A couple of 8-2-1 years under Don Faurot in the '50's doesn't constitute being on the main stage.

 

[Duck_walk]

Things that will never happen, but would be amazing...

Hire Jeff Monken from Army.

because they are 3-5?

 

[Duck_walk]

Yeah, I'd like to hear that one, too.
A couple of 8-2-1 years under Don Faurot in the '50's doesn't constitute being on the main stage.

Guess what football program had the best record of all NCAA teams during the decade of the 60s??? Hint:,,it wasn’t Oklahoma or Notre Dame or USC or Ohio State.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Didn't Navy School Mizzou in 2009 using the flexbone?

 

[Veerman_12]

because they are 3-5?

11-2 last year.

Took highly ranked Oklahoma and Michigan to overtime. Mizzou can't even get it done in regulation against Vandy and Kentucky.

3-5 happens when you're banged up at a service academy, that's no indictment on his ability to coach.

 

[J. Kane]

11-2 last year.

Took highly ranked Oklahoma and Michigan to overtime. Mizzou can't even get it done in regulation against Vandy and Kentucky.

3-5 happens when you're banged up at a service academy, that's no indictment on his ability to coach.

Or Wyoming!

 

[Duck_walk]

There was a movie called “I spit on your grave” in which a woman was raped and tortured and left for dead. She then somehow survived and came back to brutally torture and kill all of her assailants. I say we remake that movie and let her have her way with J. Kane.

 

[J. Kane]

There was a movie called “I spit on your grave” in which a woman was raped and tortured and left for dead. She then somehow survived and came back to brutally torture and kill all of her assailants. I say we remake that movie and let her have her way with J. Kane.

 

[J. Kane]

Seeing Mizzou Run the veer would be cool. Duck walk probably wouldn't like watching it. From what I hear he had no idea how to defend it.

 

[Veerman_12]

Seeing Mizzou Run the veer would be cool. Duck walk probably wouldn't like watching it. From what I hear he had no idea how to defend it.

 

[Veerman_12]

What Mizzou will do if they hire Mike Leach:

 

[Duck_walk]

Seeing Mizzou Run the veer would be cool. Duck walk probably wouldn't like watching it. From what I hear he had no idea how to defend it.

That was my second year of coaching. I didn’t learn a damn thing after that. You right.

 

[J. Kane]

I’m of the mind that teams running the option in major college football these days are going to be at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Not that it couldn’t be highly successful at that level. I don’t see why it couldn’t be, but here’s the thing:

Most, if not all, the high-profile HS recruits won’t want anything to do with it. They’ll want to be somewhere showcasing skills that translate to the NFL.

It would be a tough sell getting recruits to believe playing in such a system is a good path to the draft. Heck, even the good O linemen will want to prove they can pass pro, not prove they can double team or combo block.

The academies aren’t going to get recruits wanting to get into the NFL anyway, so it’s of no concern to them. For my part, I think they do an awesome job with a bunch of kids most power 5 schools wouldn’t even consider. I admire them on many levels.

On the flip side, it’s not like Mizzou is consistently signing all our home grown talent anyway, so maybe I’m merely rambling. (Which is always a distinct possibility. At least I’m not yelling at the clouds I see from my porch today - which is always a good thing)

GT ran it successfully for years.

 

[Veerman_12]

I’m of the mind that teams running the option in major college football these days are going to be at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Not that it couldn’t be highly successful at that level. I don’t see why it couldn’t be, but here’s the thing:

Most, if not all, the high-profile HS recruits won’t want anything to do with it. They’ll want to be somewhere showcasing skills that translate to the NFL.

It would be a tough sell getting recruits to believe playing in such a system is a good path to the draft. Heck, even the good O linemen will want to prove they can pass pro, not prove they can double team or combo block.

The academies aren’t going to get recruits wanting to get into the NFL anyway, so it’s of no concern to them. For my part, I think they do an awesome job with a bunch of kids most power 5 schools wouldn’t even consider. I admire them on many levels.

On the flip side, it’s not like Mizzou is consistently signing all our home grown talent anyway, so maybe I’m merely rambling. (Which is always a distinct possibility. At least I’m not yelling at the clouds I see from my porch today - which is always a good thing)

That's where my head's at. If we were consistently pulling in top 10 recruiting classes, I'd say no way, but we average out at like the 45th overall class over the last 10 years.

We're not going to "out-Bama" Bama, or LSU, or Georgia, Florida...etc. So either get someone who CAN recruit those top 25 classes and keep local talent at home, or do something drastically different.

Todd Monken can flat out coach, heck he beat Florida while he was at Georgia Southern.

If it was up to me I'd go for one of the extremes, either get Leach and throw the ball 60 times a game or get Moken and run the ball 60 times a game.

 

[Mofan79]

That's where my head's at. If we were consistently pulling in top 10 recruiting classes, I'd say no way, but we average out at like the 45th overall class over the last 10 years.

We're not going to "out-Bama" Bama, or LSU, or Georgia, Florida...etc. So either get someone who CAN recruit those top 25 classes and keep local talent at home, or do something drastically different.

Todd Monken can flat out coach, heck he beat Florida while he was at Georgia Southern.

If it was up to me I'd go for one of the extremes, either get Leach and throw the ball 60 times a game or get Moken and run the ball 60 times a game.

I agree I think being different In a conference like the SEC would be huge teams would have to take a lot of extra time installing a defense unique for that week.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

That's where my head's at. If we were consistently pulling in top 10 recruiting classes, I'd say no way, but we average out at like the 45th overall class over the last 10 years.

We're not going to "out-Bama" Bama, or LSU, or Georgia, Florida...etc. So either get someone who CAN recruit those top 25 classes and keep local talent at home, or do something drastically different.

Todd Monken can flat out coach, heck he beat Florida while he was at Georgia Southern.

If it was up to me I'd go for one of the extremes, either get Leach and throw the ball 60 times a game or get Moken and run the ball 60 times a game.

or stay with BO and Pass 30x and run 30x

 

[Veerman_12]

or stay with BO and Pass 30x and run 30x

And lose to Wyoming, Vandy, and Kentucky all the while looking like they don't want to be playing.

Also, balance doesn't mean a 50/50 run/pass split. If I've got four ball carriers with 15 carries and 110 rushing yards a piece, is that not "balance"?

 

[Duck_walk]

GT ran it successfully for years.

And they didn’t really have any more success than Mizzou during that time period

 

[bullitpdq68]

I’m of the mind that teams running the option in major college football these days are going to be at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Not that it couldn’t be highly successful at that level. I don’t see why it couldn’t be, but here’s the thing:

Most, if not all, the high-profile HS recruits won’t want anything to do with it. They’ll want to be somewhere showcasing skills that translate to the NFL.

It would be a tough sell getting recruits to believe playing in such a system is a good path to the draft. Heck, even the good O linemen will want to prove they can pass pro, not prove they can double team or combo block.

The academies aren’t going to get recruits wanting to get into the NFL anyway, so it’s of no concern to them. For my part, I think they do an awesome job with a bunch of kids most power 5 schools wouldn’t even consider. I admire them on many levels.

On the flip side, it’s not like Mizzou is consistently signing all our home grown talent anyway, so maybe I’m merely rambling. (Which is always a distinct possibility. At least I’m not yelling at the clouds I see from my porch today - which is always a good thing)

Those high flying offenses are such a hit and miss and so dependent on recruiting the right kids, if you miss on a receiver your QB is done for miss on the QB and well it gets ugly. Look at Mizzou, Bryant is dinged up and the offense is very much stagnate. In today's world a Good QB is not going to sit behind and wait for his turn so you are never going to have much depth at that position, that is how we got the QB we got now! And who knows how paying Athletes for their likeness is going to change the recruiting landscape.

I think going after athletes that other colleges are not for offense might work, and I don't think it would hurt your defensive recruitment, nothing helps a defense like a ball control offense, much better than two incomplete passes and a Zone read for little gain and then a punt and then you are back out there on defense.

 

[Duck_walk]

Those high flying offenses are such a hit and miss and so dependent on recruiting the right kids, if you miss on a receiver your QB is done for miss on the QB and well it gets ugly. Look at Mizzou, Bryant is dinged up and the offense is very much stagnate. In today's world a Good QB is not going to sit behind and wait for his turn so you are never going to have much depth at that position, that is how we got the QB we got now! And who knows how paying Athletes for their likeness is going to change the recruiting landscape.

I think going after athletes that other colleges are not for offense might work, and I don't think it would hurt your defensive recruitment, nothing helps a defense like a ball control offense, much better than two incomplete passes and a Zone read for little gain and then a punt and then you are back out there on defense.

Let us all pray that Bullit isn’t the next Mizzou AD.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Let us all pray that Bullit isn’t the next Mizzou AD.

Like I am sure Mizzou would be undefeated if you were coaching them.

 

[J. Kane]

And they didn’t really have any more success than Mizzou during that time period

They also didn't lose to Wyoming!

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

And lose to Wyoming, Vandy, and Kentucky all the while looking like they don't want to be playing.

Also, balance doesn't mean a 50/50 run/pass split. If I've got four ball carriers with 15 carries and 110 rushing yards a piece, is that not "balance"?

Yep balanced in the running game, but you lost 64-28. You passed for 50 yards.

 

[Veerman_12]

Yep balanced in the running game, but you lost 64-28. You passed for 50 yards.

If you run for 410 yards, the opposing offense hasn't had the ball long enough to score 64 points.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

If you run for 410 yards, the opposing offense hasn't had the ball long enough to score 64 points.

Lordy these days teams score in 2 plays and :30..Plus the had a fumble return for a TD and a punt return

 

[Jman90]

Lane Kiffin is a hire I'd love to see. FAU doesn't present the opportunities Mizzou does.

 

[bigcat1754]

I don't even care if we were bad with mike leach at least he would provide some entertainment instead of this boring mizzou games of the past couple weeks