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How are these "Gun Free" zones working out for all the Lib Educators??

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University of Missouri prof suing the University for denying him his rights to bear arms under the US and Missouri constitution as well as Missouri law.

Hope it goes to Supreme Court and we can win another one

Bad day in Oregon
 
University of Missouri prof suing the University for denying him his rights to bear arms under the US and Missouri constitution as well as Missouri law.

Hope it goes to Supreme Court and we can win another one

Bad day in Oregon

It's really disgusting the way you right wing gun nuts try to use a tragedy to make political points.. ...... .
 
The problem isn't gun free zones, it's the fact that whoever this person is had access to a firearm.

It is not rocket science.

Look at the guy who got shot in downtown St. Louis the other day...getting robbed by a criminal changed his perspective on guns when he realized he could never have used his own gun before the other guy shot him
 
I don't know why we even talk about this stuff anymore. As a country, we have decided that we are willing to let children get gunned down in school in order to feed our fascination with gun ownership.

The debate's over. Gun nuts win. Time to move on.
 
The Onion Headline today. Might as well be the Blaze

'No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

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NEWS IN BRIEFOctober 1, 2015
VOL 51 ISSUE 39 News · Guns · Violence


ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in southwestern Oregon in which a lone attacker killed 13 individuals and seriously injured 20 others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
 
I don't know why we even talk about this stuff anymore. As a country, we have decided that we are willing to let children get gunned down in school in order to feed our fascination with gun ownership.

The debate's over. Gun nuts win. Time to move on.

As opposed to the left's idea that we should just kill them in the womb, and save the time.

Can't we both agree that something needs to be done about abortion, and gun violence? I can.

I am not trying to argue. Can we not agree that these are both horrible situations ?

I dont like people getting killed with guns.

I dont like babies getting killed by doctors.

What am I ?

A democrat ?

A republican ?

Or a republiberealcan?

Or a independant ?

Veer, whatcha think ?
 
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I don't know one liberal who's for abortion.

So since liberals must be against abortion, and conservatives are against it, we must be good to go. Yea, no more abortion.....

Cow, you and I just solved the problem,.....love it
 
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As opposed to the left's idea that we should just kill them in the womb, and save the time.

Can't we both agree that something needs to be done about abortion, and gun violence? I can.

I am not trying to argue. Can we not agree that these are both horrible situations ?

I dont like people getting killed with guns.

I dont like babies getting killed by doctors.

What am I ?

A democrat ?

A republican ?

Or a republiberealcan?

Or a independant ?

Veer, whatcha think ?
Richard Cranium is what you are.
 
So since liberals must be against abortion, and conservatives are against it, we must be good to go. Yea, no more abortion.....

Cow, you and I just solved the problem,.....love it
There's a difference between not being for something and thinking something should be legal.
 
I don't know why we even talk about this stuff anymore. As a country, we have decided that we are willing to let children get gunned down in school in order to feed our fascination with gun ownership.

The debate's over. Gun nuts win. Time to move on.

Maybe you should take the same approach with guns as you do abortion?

Obviously strict gun laws and background checks are not working in Oregon.
 
Maybe you should take the same approach with guns as you do abortion?

Obviously strict gun laws and background checks are not working in Oregon.
Oregon is a CC state and students were allowed to carry on campus. Servers like of them were doing so. But good try.

People that link abortion and guns are being simplistic. Not remotely the same issue.
 
Oregon is a CC state and students were allowed to carry on campus. Servers like of them were doing so. But good try.

People that link abortion and guns are being simplistic. Not remotely the same issue.

Under state law, people in Oregon could carry concealed firearms on college campuses like the one where a gunman killed several people and wounded several others on Thursday. However, Umpqua Community College has been established as a gun-free zone thanks to a loophole in state law that has made every third-level institution in the state almost entirely gun-free. Here’s how that works.

Currently, only three states—Idaho, Utah and Colorado—allow guns on campuses regardless of school policy. Oregon’s guns-on-campus law is a bit more complicated.

Under state law, “campus carry” is permitted, but each university can set its own policy on whether or not they want to allow firearms. In 2012, after the state legislature failed to pass a bill that would have banned guns on campuses, Oregon’s State Board of Education, which oversees many of the state’s public universities, unanimously approved a policy that bans guns from its campuses, and other institutions followed suit. Additionally, the policy states that anyone who does business with any of the state universities—which includes “students, employees, contractors, people buying tickets to university events or people renting university property,” according to a 2012 article posted on OregonLive.com—must agree to not bring weapons on campus. Anyone who violates this policy cannot be criminally prosecuted, but can face punishment by the university. Students and faculty could face disciplinary action from the university, while contractors risk a breach of contract lawsuit.

The State Board tried to ban guns on campus entirely, but were denied by Oregon’s Court of Appeals. The current policy of the State Board of Education states that people with concealed carry permits are allowed to bring their firearms on campuses, but are not into university buildings, which means a person can roam a campus with a concealed weapon, but if they want to go indoors, they must have somewhere (like the trunk of their car) to store their weapon. Umpqua Community College is not governed by the State Board of Education, but has a similar policy in place.

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited,” according to the college’s code of conduct.



You have no idea what background this guy has. How he acquired his weapons etc. It's safe to assume you would ban all sales of firearms period. THAT is being simplistic. It is your type that allow these shootings to happen. You would rather the security guard hand out flowers than carry a weapon to defend those students. It is your type that would rather let kids get gunned down than let an armed citizen to intervene. I have offered a realistic approach on how to stop these shootings. But all that comes out of the left mouth, bleh bleh bleh NRA bleh bleh bleh Gun Nuts.

Just roll over play dead, coward. It's what you're good at.
 
Check out @TheDailyEdge's Tweet: [

MEDIA=tweet]649922173654704128[/MEDIA]

Approximately 10,000 kids killed or injured per year due to gun violence - Dems appalled

Planned Parenthood kills 327,000 kids in 2014 - Dems say no problem

We, as a nation, should be ashamed of both.
 
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Under state law, people in Oregon could carry concealed firearms on college campuses like the one where a gunman killed several people and wounded several others on Thursday. However, Umpqua Community College has been established as a gun-free zone thanks to a loophole in state law that has made every third-level institution in the state almost entirely gun-free. Here’s how that works.

Currently, only three states—Idaho, Utah and Colorado—allow guns on campuses regardless of school policy. Oregon’s guns-on-campus law is a bit more complicated.

Under state law, “campus carry” is permitted, but each university can set its own policy on whether or not they want to allow firearms. In 2012, after the state legislature failed to pass a bill that would have banned guns on campuses, Oregon’s State Board of Education, which oversees many of the state’s public universities, unanimously approved a policy that bans guns from its campuses, and other institutions followed suit. Additionally, the policy states that anyone who does business with any of the state universities—which includes “students, employees, contractors, people buying tickets to university events or people renting university property,” according to a 2012 article posted on OregonLive.com—must agree to not bring weapons on campus. Anyone who violates this policy cannot be criminally prosecuted, but can face punishment by the university. Students and faculty could face disciplinary action from the university, while contractors risk a breach of contract lawsuit.

The State Board tried to ban guns on campus entirely, but were denied by Oregon’s Court of Appeals. The current policy of the State Board of Education states that people with concealed carry permits are allowed to bring their firearms on campuses, but are not into university buildings, which means a person can roam a campus with a concealed weapon, but if they want to go indoors, they must have somewhere (like the trunk of their car) to store their weapon. Umpqua Community College is not governed by the State Board of Education, but has a similar policy in place.

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited,” according to the college’s code of conduct.



You have no idea what background this guy has. How he acquired his weapons etc. It's safe to assume you would ban all sales of firearms period. THAT is being simplistic. It is your type that allow these shootings to happen. You would rather the security guard hand out flowers than carry a weapon to defend those students. It is your type that would rather let kids get gunned down than let an armed citizen to intervene. I have offered a realistic approach on how to stop these shootings. But all that comes out of the left mouth, bleh bleh bleh NRA bleh bleh bleh Gun Nuts.

Just roll over play dead, coward. It's what you're good at.
You are so wrong. So so wrong.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...ause-public-colleges-in-oregon-cant-ban-guns/

It's safe to assume you would ban all sales of firearms period. THAT is being simplistic. It is your type that allow these shootings to happen. You would rather the security guard hand out flowers than carry a weapon to defend those students. It is your type that would rather let kids get gunned down than let an armed citizen to intervene.
You are a very simple person. This quote encapsulates why.
 
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Maybe you should take the same approach with guns as you do abortion?

Obviously strict gun laws and background checks are not working in Oregon.
There are no such thing are strict gun laws in the US, not by the standard of what is needed to truly combat gun violence.
 
Hey genius, how about you click inside that link where Dana Loesch gives that above explanation. How wrong am I again?

I live a simple life, that is true.
Um, very wrong? Your point (or the only point that makes sense in response to my post) is that these were helpless kids because they couldn't bring their guns to school. They could, and some did.

"The current policy of the State Board of Education states that people with concealed carry permits are allowed to bring their firearms on campuses..."
 
So since liberals must be against abortion, and conservatives are against it, we must be good to go. Yea, no more abortion.....

Cow, you and I just solved the problem,.....love it


GOP had complete control of government 2000-2006.

Abortion was never in jeopardy of being banned .

Why do you think that is?

Let me help...it's an issue that the GOP (and Dems) can count on to get lemmings out to vote.

Don't be silly.
 
GOP had complete control of government 2000-2006.

Abortion was never in jeopardy of being banned .

Why do you think that is?

Let me help...it's an issue that the GOP (and Dems) can count on to get lemmings out to vote.

Don't be silly.
Absolutely, don't think the Dems are running scared that Planned Parenthood is being discussed. They don't think it's bad for them with women. Notably, the polling on continuing funding for Planned Parenthood favors them by a 2:1 margin, and the polling on not shutting down the government about Planned Parenthood favors them 8:1. They aren't bothered by what is going on. Abortion is a wedge issue but not one that is a big winner for either side.

The biggest change that is hurting both sides is the decreasing willingness of either side to take a slightly more moderate position - Rs who oppose all abortions, including incest and rape (for instance), and Ds who support later term abortions like Sanders.
 
Um, very wrong? Your point (or the only point that makes sense in response to my post) is that these were helpless kids because they couldn't bring their guns to school. They could, and some did.

"The current policy of the State Board of Education states that people with concealed carry permits are allowed to bring their firearms on campuses..."

If you can't take the gun to class, how much good is it? Why even bother taking it if you must leave it in your car? How do you use a gun locked in your car?

That law is worthless but you cite it as evidence?
 
If you can't take the gun to class, how much good is it? Why even bother taking it if you must leave it in your car? How do you use a gun locked in your car?

That law is worthless but you cite it as evidence?
Because you could get the opportunity mow down the bad guys at any time.

Oh, and the security guards didn't even check if you had a gun, so you could bring it in if you wanted.
 
Interesting opinion piece by John Paul Stevens in the Washington post. This particular sentence caught my eye.

"Emotional claims that the right to possess deadly weapons is so important that it is protected by the federal Constitution distort intelligent debate about the wisdom of particular aspects of proposed legislation designed to minimize the slaughter caused by the prevalence of guns in private hands."

The full op-Ed is here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d2b1245_story.html?postshare=4511443814742272
 
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So since liberals must be against abortion, and conservatives are against it, we must be good to go. Yea, no more abortion.....

Cow, you and I just solved the problem,.....love it

When you think about it the Left's policies on Abortions, Male Gay Rights, Transvestism and Female Gay Rights are good for the GOP.

By promoting an agenda that stops newborn births, they will have single-handedly made their own liberal party extinct.

Would love to say that I thought of this but I did not,
RUSH did....

He's worth every bit of $70 million a year... : )
 
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Because you could get the opportunity mow down the bad guys at any time.

Oh, and the security guards didn't even check if you had a gun, so you could bring it in if you wanted.

Gun owners generally follow the law! Most CC people declare their posession to prevent a problem. "Sneaking" a gun in isn't the goal. It's pretty hard to carry a gun on campus if going to a class that you can't take it in.
 
When you think about it the Left's policies on Abortions, Male Gay Rights, Transvestism and Female Gay Rights are good for the GOP.

By promoting an agenda that stops newborn births, they will have single-handedly made their own liberal party extinct.

Would love to say that I thought of this but I did not,
RUSH did....

He's worth every bit of $70 million a year... : )
That's why we have to allow illegal immigration.
 
Gun owners generally follow the law! Most CC people declare their posession to prevent a problem. "Sneaking" a gun in isn't the goal. It's pretty hard to carry a gun on campus if going to a class that you can't take it in.
Yes, I'm sure gun owners are paragons of virtue.
 
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When you think about it the Left's policies on Abortions, Male Gay Rights, Transvestism and Female Gay Rights are good for the GOP.

By promoting an agenda that stops newborn births, they will have single-handedly made their own liberal party extinct.

Would love to say that I thought of this but I did not,
RUSH did....

He's worth every bit of $70 million a year... : )
You should go look up the poll data. The majority position in America is limited pro choice.

Gay issues are even more positive for the Ds. There is a reason mainstream Rs are running away from the issue. Being anti gay is good in an R primary but bad in a general election, and that is only getting worse with time. The D party loves that Ted Cruz and mike huckabee ran to Kim Davis.
 
Gun owners generally follow the law! Most CC people declare their posession to prevent a problem. "Sneaking" a gun in isn't the goal. It's pretty hard to carry a gun on campus if going to a class that you can't take it in.

I wish you had been in that class.
 
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