anonymous outs 4 big time GOP senators
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Thom Tills
Dan Coates
John Cornyn TX
Johnny Isakson
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Thom Tills
Dan Coates
John Cornyn TX
Johnny Isakson
GOP=KKK
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ag-man
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Holy crap! You really believe they belong in the same category?In all honesty, two very bad choices...
Looks like Webb almost losing to CJ has really shook you up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is one racist statement
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ag-man
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Well, to answer you and VB both, the clan probably isn't as rascist as the dem party.
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ag-man
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My comment was made in jest, and I am happy to see it was taken that way, however, just some food for thought.
I know a lot of Democrats, most of the black jokes I have heard in my life, were told by them.
What does this tell me?
The KKK doesn't like black people, and admit it, that's what they stand for.
Dems don't like black people, but hide it, as long as they can convince them they are trying to help them so they keep voting Dem.
But that is just some more anecdotal evidence.
I know a lot of Democrats, most of the black jokes I have heard in my life, were told by them.
What does this tell me?
The KKK doesn't like black people, and admit it, that's what they stand for.
Dems don't like black people, but hide it, as long as they can convince them they are trying to help them so they keep voting Dem.
But that is just some more anecdotal evidence.
that you live in a rural area?
It's pretty incredible to claim that the Democratic party doesn't like black people when they are 1/4 of its votes and they have consistently fought for their issues for 5 decades now
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ag-man
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The fact that blacks constitute 25% of the dem vote just proves my point that they are being hoodwinked.
After 5 decades of the dems trying to "help" them, how are they doing?
Record unemployed, record poverty, record child being born out of wedlock, record black on black crime, record on public assistance etc.etc.
I personally don't believe I want any of that "help".
Yes, it has nothing to do with getting elected. Only white democrats care about blacks.
The real problem in poor communities is structural poverty, not government. It's extremely difficult to argue that the policies pushed by Rs would make the problem better - in fact, there's good evidence they do they opposite.
The Democratic party's policy positions are much, much more aligned with black Americans than the Republican party. It's more than just civil rights.
It's funny you play the card on abortion as a voting technique by the Repubs. Yet the Democrats aren't playing the African American community? Cmon man, you can't believe that. The Democrats might act like they care, they don't. If they did they wouldn't let the BS race card to be played as it has over the years. They are hurting that community more than helping. All they care about is the vote.
And I have 30+ years of evidence that Democrats have done nothing but harm to East Saint Louis and Saint Louis alike.
1. BS Race Card? It's not BS. Has it been over played? Probably. Is it total BS? NO, there are many times where it is legit. Ag gave evidence of racist Dems. You suggest there are racist Dems, and then want to claim that the race card is BS. You can't have it both ways.
2. What exactly is your so called "30 + years of evidence"? Can you prove with Republican control things would be better in EStL and StL? Just as I can not prove that if neither party or R party were in control things would be 10 times worse.
2. What exactly is your so called "30 + years of evidence"? Can you prove with Republican control things would be better in EStL and StL? Just as I can not prove that if neither party or R party were in control things would be 10 times worse.
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ag-man
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Which Democratic policy positions are you referring to?
Pro-choice? Abortion ends a disproportionate amount of minority pregnancies.
Pro LGBT? Minorities on the whole generally frown on this.
Pro illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants and legal minorities frown on this also.
What policies to the Democrats have that align themselves with poor minorities besides promising them free stuff in exchange for their vote?
The only policy that I can think of is the Dems want to tax those evil business owners and successful citizens more so they can distribute MORE free stuff.
AA voters:
- are pro choice
- pro education spending
- pro anti-poverty spending
- pro higher taxes on the rich
etc.
You can argue pretty strongly that Dems have not served black voters well on criminal justice issues but nearly every other position they have supported have been ideas supported by the black community. It's not just the race issues, black voters generally support expansion of domestic government.
The inequality rhetoric, for example, rings quite true to black voters.
You can point to a lot of things that the Dems have done over time that have been well supported by black America. It's not like abortion where nothing ever gets done. The ACA, for example, is very popular among black Americans.
Basically everything economic that the Ds support is in line with the positions of black America.
Not to mention the mayor of a town like East St. Louis has little to do with the town's economic fortunes.
Are there times the race card is played in an incendiary manner that is unfair? Yes. Are there times it is a real point? Yes. See the gutting of voting rights laws which are designed to suppress poor minority voters.
And, of course they are willing to play things up for political gain, but they can also point to a lot of things they have done. Veer's point is you can't really do that at a Federal level about abortion - the changes are extremely limited.
Well, that was more on all levels. But I think you knew that. Which party runs that sorry state again?
Illinois has been led by Rs a lot, actually. Ds running Illinois is a recent thing.
This argument would have value if the other party actually pushed for changes that would help black America. It doesn't. It serves the interest of rich people and corporations. It serves the interests of Southern obstructionists who used to form the backbone of the D party pre-1964.
The Rs of the last 20-25 years do not support policies which are focused on the poor or the middle class, whether you are white, black, or whatever. I may disagree with an awful lot of what the Ds want but I think they are focused on the real problems in America.
This is a big part of why Trump is doing so well - the whole point of his campaign is to speak to middle America who feels Ds care more about poor people and elite Rs care only about rich people.
Certain members pull it far too often, but that doesn't mean it's wrong in all cases
The R's have tried to suppress the black vote forever. Good grief, how can anyone even question why blacks vote for Dems???? Duh.
