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No, that’s not what I’m saying at all. With all the money Trump wants to spend (military upgrading, infrastructure, the tremendously ridiculous wall), added to the slashing of taxes to the rich - something has to give. It was promised to us that Mexico was going to pay for the tremendously ridiculous wall. So what I’m saying is, when Mexico forks over every penny to pay for the tremendously ridiculous wall, them have at it. Build the tremendously ridiculous wall.

Then that doesn't answer the question about the walls effectiveness. You said the cost was the issue not the effectiveness. Are you saying we can't afford it even if it works?
What border wall has failed to work very well?
Would keeping illegals out save more than the wall costs?
 
Then that doesn't answer the question about the walls effectiveness. You said the cost was the issue not the effectiveness. Are you saying we can't afford it even if it works?
What border wall has failed to work very well?
Would keeping illegals out save more than the wall costs?
I mentioned earlier that I don’t have an answer. I just feel Trump doesn’t either. His proposal of a tremendously ridiculous wall that Mexico is going to pay for is obviously not the right answer. I don’t know how many times you want me to answer the same question about the tremendously ridiculous wall. My thumbs hurt. Give us your answers, Mr. Miller.
 
None. Not directly anyways. When did I say they were. You seem to be under a lot of delusions that people believe every word Trump says.
When our president says it over and over during the campaign and at midterm rallies that Mexico will pay for the wall, I tend to believe that he believes it. Or was he telling us the same lie over and over? When Mexico pays each installment - have at it. Build that tremendously ridiculous wall.
 
I mentioned earlier that I don’t have an answer. I just feel Trump doesn’t either. His proposal of a tremendously ridiculous wall that Mexico is going to pay for is obviously not the right answer. I don’t know how many times you want me to answer the same question about the tremendously ridiculous wall. My thumbs hurt. Give us your answers, Mr. Miller.

You keep saying "tremendously ridiculous wall" but never say why it is "tremendously ridiculous!
My answer is to build a wall that will costs us 100s of billions less than illegals cost us.
 
When our president says it over and over during the campaign and at midterm rallies that Mexico will pay for the wall, I tend to believe that he believes it. Or was he telling us the same lie over and over? When Mexico pays each installment - have at it. Build that tremendously ridiculous wall.
You didn't say he believed it you said I did.
Cost isn't the issue.
 
The promise doesn't apply unless you voted for Trump. No promise was broken for the open border, world government party.
What do you mean the promise doesn’t apply unless you voted for Trump? He’s the POTUS and I’m an American. He lied to us all.
 
I think cost is the exact issue. Watch some real news. Congress isn’t debating what color to make the wall. Holy cow!
Not to mention he still has money left over from the 1.8 billion they gave him last year. At least spend the money you have before asking for 3 times as much immediately.
 
Not to mention he still has money left over from the 1.8 billion they gave him last year. At least spend the money you have before asking for 3 times as much immediately.
So, we came in under budget on what we built. That is just awful!
 
You’re right. Cost isn’t the issue to us. It’s Mexico’s issue. That’s what we were told. Promises made ...
You win. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Now, since it will save us hundreds of billions a year (cost of illegals) if it works (you can't cite an example of a border wall not working), why should we not build a border wall?
 
You win. Mexico isn't paying for the wall. Now, since it will save us hundreds of billions a year (cost of illegals) if it works (you can't cite an example of a border wall not working), why should we not build a border wall?
One last time — I’m all for building the wall/ concrete slabs! As soon as Mexico pays each and every penny of each and every installment; have at it. If we go under budget, return the excess. If we hit the budget, stop building, secure what money is needed from Mexico, and have at it again.

You and I know this will never happen. That is why I call it the tremendously ridiculous wall/concrete slabs. Don’t you think this makes Trump and the US appear weak when we say to Mexico “you’re paying for this wall/concrete slabs.”
Mexico: No, we’re not.
Trump: Please?!?
Mexico: We already said NO!
Trump : You’re not? Ok. We’ll pay for it.

Another solution — GoFundMe for those who want the tremendously ridiculous wall/concrete slabs to be paid for by Americans. I, personally, don’t want a cent of my tax dollars spent on something I was told was going to be paid for by someone else.

Lastly, Mr. Miller, if you tell me walls work everywhere they’ve been built; then, sir, I believe you. After all, you’re never wrong. If anyone doesn’t believe me on that one, all they have to do is ask ... you.
 
One last time — I’m all for building the wall/ concrete slabs! As soon as Mexico pays each and every penny of each and every installment; have at it. If we go under budget, return the excess. If we hit the budget, stop building, secure what money is needed from Mexico, and have at it again.

You and I know this will never happen. That is why I call it the tremendously ridiculous wall/concrete slabs. Don’t you think this makes Trump and the US appear weak when we say to Mexico “you’re paying for this wall/concrete slabs.”
Mexico: No, we’re not.
Trump: Please?!?
Mexico: We already said NO!
Trump : You’re not? Ok. We’ll pay for it.

Another solution — GoFundMe for those who want the tremendously ridiculous wall/concrete slabs to be paid for by Americans. I, personally, don’t want a cent of my tax dollars spent on something I was told was going to be paid for by someone else.

Lastly, Mr. Miller, if you tell me walls work everywhere they’ve been built; then, sir, I believe you. After all, you’re never wrong. If anyone doesn’t believe me on that one, all they have to do is ask ... you.

Quote: "Mexico will pay for the wall. 100%. 100%"
 
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One last time — I’m all for building the wall/ concrete slabs! As soon as Mexico pays each and every penny of each and every installment; have at it. If we go under budget, return the excess. If we hit the budget, stop building, secure what money is needed from Mexico, and have at it again.

You and I know this will never happen. That is why I call it the tremendously ridiculous wall/concrete slabs. Don’t you think this makes Trump and the US appear weak when we say to Mexico “you’re paying for this wall/concrete slabs.”
Mexico: No, we’re not.
Trump: Please?!?
Mexico: We already said NO!
Trump : You’re not? Ok. We’ll pay for it.

Another solution — GoFundMe for those who want the tremendously ridiculous wall/concrete slabs to be paid for by Americans. I, personally, don’t want a cent of my tax dollars spent on something I was told was going to be paid for by someone else.

Lastly, Mr. Miller, if you tell me walls work everywhere they’ve been built; then, sir, I believe you. After all, you’re never wrong. If anyone doesn’t believe me on that one, all they have to do is ask ... you.

1st, Who pays for something doesn't determine its necessity (tremendously ridiculous or not) and value.
2nd, I want the wall/border whether Mexico writes a check or not because it pays for itself in less than a year.
3rd, Where did Trump beg Mexico? Just wrong again? I NEVER thought Mexico would write a check for the wall and don't care if they do.
4th, The ONLY promise left for Trump to keep that matters to me is the border wall so yes, promises made and kept is accurate to me. Maybe you just don't like that they are.
5th, Are you saying (seems like you are) that the only opposition you have to the wall is we have to pay for it? If not list the other reasons.
6th, If i'm not correct that walls have always worked for border purposes, all you have to do is say where they haven't.
 
Quote: "Mexico will pay for the wall. 100%. 100%"
OK, he lied, he was wrong, he was crazy, he looks like a fool, anything else?
NOW, why shouldn't we build a strong border wall to prevent illegal immigrants from coming here? (note I never said it would prevent EVERY one)
 
1st, Who pays for something doesn't determine its necessity (tremendously ridiculous or not) and value.
2nd, I want the wall/border whether Mexico writes a check or not because it pays for itself in less than a year.
3rd, Where did Trump beg Mexico? Just wrong again? I NEVER thought Mexico would write a check for the wall and don't care if they do.
4th, The ONLY promise left for Trump to keep that matters to me is the border wall so yes, promises made and kept is accurate to me. Maybe you just don't like that they are.
5th, Are you saying (seems like you are) that the only opposition you have to the wall is we have to pay for it? If not list the other reasons.
6th, If i'm not correct that walls have always worked for border purposes, all you have to do is say where they haven't.
Asked and answered. Again, not what you want the answer to be, so that means I haven’t answered.
 
1st, Who pays for something doesn't determine its necessity (tremendously ridiculous or not) and value.
2nd, I want the wall/border whether Mexico writes a check or not because it pays for itself in less than a year.
3rd, Where did Trump beg Mexico? Just wrong again? I NEVER thought Mexico would write a check for the wall and don't care if they do.
4th, The ONLY promise left for Trump to keep that matters to me is the border wall so yes, promises made and kept is accurate to me. Maybe you just don't like that they are.
5th, Are you saying (seems like you are) that the only opposition you have to the wall is we have to pay for it? If not list the other reasons.
6th, If i'm not correct that walls have always worked for border purposes, all you have to do is say where they haven't.
If someone is going to donate the labor, materials, etc., in other words, Mexico, I’m all for it. I think we’ll all find it won’t be as effective as we’re being lead to believe. Just my opinion. I’ve been known to be wrong.
 
Asked and answered. Again, not what you want the answer to be, so that means I haven’t answered.
There were multiple questions there. Which did you answer and how did you answer? Saying you did isn't the same as actually answering.
 
If someone is going to donate the labor, materials, etc., in other words, Mexico, I’m all for it. I think we’ll all find it won’t be as effective as we’re being lead to believe. Just my opinion. I’ve been known to be wrong.
Why would you have that opinion since you can't cite a single case of a border wall NOT working? Uneducated opinions usually are stupid (as in this case).
 
If someone is going to donate the labor, materials, etc., in other words, Mexico, I’m all for it. I think we’ll all find it won’t be as effective as we’re being lead to believe. Just my opinion. I’ve been known to be wrong.

Hey TJ. Here is a tweet showing the wall fence. Do you see a depiction of 15 feet of fence being under the ground?

 
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Why would you have that opinion since you can't cite a single case of a border wall NOT working? Uneducated opinions usually are stupid (as in this case).
Let me see if I have this correct: Your uneducated opinion about my uneducated opinion is also stupid?
 
So, we came in under budget on what we built. That is just awful!
We didn't build any additional wall/fence as far I've seen or read from any source. They have been replacing or repairing some that had already been built.
 
We didn't build any additional wall/fence as far I've seen or read from any source. They have been replacing or repairing some that had already been built.
Why do you guys have such a problem with government spending not happening?
Why does it matter if money was approve to develop/research/build the border and it wasn't all needed at this time? Until the new border is built, there will be maintenance on the existing border. You just don't miss an opportunity to turn any situation into a negative.
 
Only 4 billion$ more and the Trump lemme's will take Mexico off the hook. Another bigly win for the minority party of Putin! Just too easy
 
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Avoiding my question?
No, just curious why you asked for modern walls. Do you think it's different now. How about Israel? Is that one modern? Is Germany ancient or modern? They are all examples of physical barriers designed to delineate a border.
 
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