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3R, Veer, Expect etc,........ Not Duck, who is too big of a coward to discuss on a discussion board.

Please list the reasons you think Trump is ruining the country, with valid statistics or research that would indicate your opinion has merit.

Reasons including Putin, racism, and pu$$y grabbing are to be ignored, as they are without merit, and have no bearing on this discussion. Why, you say? Because he is harder on Putin than Obama was, he isn't racist in the least, and Clinton lost your right to complain about morals.

Just real reasons you think he is hurting the country.
 
Look it up for yourself. All would do is deny, or twist, spin any response. You don't merit a response. You sure don't have the right to say who can or cannot respond to you.
 
3R, Veer, Expect etc,........ Not Duck, who is too big of a coward to discuss on a discussion board.

Please list the reasons you think Trump is ruining the country, with valid statistics or research that would indicate your opinion has merit.

Reasons including Putin, racism, and pu$$y grabbing are to be ignored, as they are without merit, and have no bearing on this discussion. Why, you say? Because he is harder on Putin than Obama was, he isn't racist in the least, and Clinton lost your right to complain about morals.

Just real reasons you think he is hurting the country.
Clinton didn't have anything to do with MY morals. By the standards of you and others on here he was NOT convicted of anything so I guess she must have been a top notch guy. If you cannot see the harm Trump has/is doing to our country, both here and abroad, then there is no need to discuss much of anything with you. There are NO statistics that will show what he's doing to ruin this country! Where do get the idea he is tougher on Putin that anyone? He has a love affair with Putin as much as he does with Kim. When have you ever heard him say a bad word about Putin?
 
Clinton didn't have anything to do with MY morals. By the standards of you and others on here he was NOT convicted of anything so I guess she must have been a top notch guy. If you cannot see the harm Trump has/is doing to our country, both here and abroad, then there is no need to discuss much of anything with you. There are NO statistics that will show what he's doing to ruin this country! Where do get the idea he is tougher on Putin that anyone? He has a love affair with Putin as much as he does with Kim. When have you ever heard him say a bad word about Putin?


No statistics?

How about,

Job creation
GDP growth
unemployment
real weekly earnings
S&P
border apprehensions
home ownership
food stamp recipients
trade deficit
etc,etc

I would say there are probably some statistics to measure what a president is doing for or against a country.

As far as Putin
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...rd-the-u-s-administrations-actions-on-russia/
 
3R, Veer, Expect etc,........ Not Duck, who is too big of a coward to discuss on a discussion board.

Please list the reasons you think Trump is ruining the country, with valid statistics or research that would indicate your opinion has merit.

Reasons including Putin, racism, and pu$$y grabbing are to be ignored, as they are without merit, and have no bearing on this discussion. Why, you say? Because he is harder on Putin than Obama was, he isn't racist in the least, and Clinton lost your right to complain about morals.

Just real reasons you think he is hurting the country.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...s-budget-deficits-could-almost-double-obamas/
 
I am not wasting my time on this, considering you won't care anyway, and Miller has already weighed in with his typical condescension, since he can't make any critical thinking decisions.
The Iran deal, The Paris Climate Accord, The border doesn't have to have so many people coming if we would help the countries they are coming from, but he left them.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/18/donald-trump-two-years-five-key-policy-areas

I read your attached link and found it one of the most honest assessment's of this president and his administration. It had fair praise and also fair criticism. Some of the policies mentioned could be viewed good or bad, depending on which side of the aisle a person is on.
Even though you said you weren't wasting your time on this, you did:), and the attached was a good read.
 
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Also some fair criticism.

What they fail to acknowledge is, we acknowledge FAIR criticism. We also allow differing opinions. We seldom get either. The racist/bigot/homophobe/russian/nazi/white supremacist comments are the norm. You ask a specific question, ask for specific details, and cite specific facts to get deflection at best but usually outrageous slanders. I really don't care if they like me or Trump but it would be nice to have decency and candor for a change of pace.
 
. We also allow differing opinions.
That is gigantic BS. You have NEVER agreed with a liberal on this forum that differs from your narrow minded, slanted opinion. NEVER. You would say white is green if a liberal said something white was white, and you know it.
 
I read your attached link and found it one of the most honest assessment's of this president and his administration. It had fair praise and also fair criticism. Some of the policies mentioned could be viewed good or bad, depending on which side of the aisle a person is on.
Even though you said you weren't wasting your time on this, you did:), and the attached was a good read.
He has done good things, and some of them are good in the short term, but may not be in the long term, ie. trade wars, deficit spending.
I said I wasn't going to waste time on it, because there is a lot of evidence to support how he is hurting the country and I was not going to look for it all. His instability has caused other countries to be concerned about doing business with us.
I don't remember where I saw or read a story that the US was in the process of not being the world currency very soon. Other countries don't trust us anymore. I am not spending time finding it, but if you look for it, it is eye opening, and it would be the worst thing that could happen to this country in the last 3 years.
 
No statistics?

How about,

Job creation
GDP growth
unemployment
real weekly earnings
S&P
border apprehensions
home ownership
food stamp recipients
trade deficit
etc,etc

I would say there are probably some statistics to measure what a president is doing for or against a country.

As far as Putin
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...rd-the-u-s-administrations-actions-on-russia/
I believe you left out his welfare to work program and the fact that it got more people off welfare than anybody before him or since as far as I can tell.
 
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He has done good things, and some of them are good in the short term, but may not be in the long term, ie. trade wars, deficit spending.
I said I wasn't going to waste time on it, because there is a lot of evidence to support how he is hurting the country and I was not going to look for it all. His instability has caused other countries to be concerned about doing business with us.
I don't remember where I saw or read a story that the US was in the process of not being the world currency very soon. Other countries don't trust us anymore. I am not spending time finding it, but if you look for it, it is eye opening, and it would be the worst thing that could happen to this country in the last 3 years.

The dollar being dropped as the world currency has been seriously considered for several years, way before Trump, but yes, that is a problem.
 
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