Figuring out Classes for 2021
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It’s true. Swinging is huge in the STL area as well. This is why I stay out of the cities. The only thing I have to worry about is making sure I’m not related to someone before making a move. It’s far more simple here.
Haha! That’s the football forum humor I want to see! Some of y’all are far too serious!
No way Kirkwood goes down to Class 5. They've been in Class 6 since 2014 and by all account continue to grow. Can also say the same for Lafayette.
Just wait until the Doc Guys come back from summer hiatus.
CJ most likely is in a rebuilding stage. If they won 4 games last year, I’ll take the under this year.
Yeah they were supposed to be great last year. But we saw how that turned out. (Sorry my rivalry got the best of me.) As the kids say. Good morning to everyone but Mount Vernon fans.
Hopefully Bosko fell off a cliff this summer...
Temporary deal I "think" based on how much new housing construction is happening here. The mix is kinda odd: out in the country where I grew up (between KTown and Holt) everything has gotten very OLD. The new housing developments are attracting very young families with LOTS of kids but most are elementary school or younger.
Or the Mrs. got sick of him and sent him for a "dirt nap".
Nothing, yet. But I've got a feeling you will get all the "football forum humor" you could ever want!What have I done!
Hopefully the paramedics don't find him ! 🤡Bosko will be coming out of his summer slumber soon.
You're implying that Bosko would actually get out and hike to a cliff?
does anyone else think Class 6 Should be 8 4-Team Districts. it's not more complicated than 4 8-team districts we have now except for Hickman and Rock bridge
Here what 4 team districts look like
"I replace Holt for Seckman since Holt be possibly Class 5 this year"
District 1
Lindbergh
Marquette
Northwest (Cedar Hill)
Seckman
District 2
CBC
DESMET
SLUH
VIANNEY
District 3
Ft Zumwalt West
Hazelwood West
Hazelwood Central
Pattonville
District 4
Francis Howell
Rock Bridge/Hickman
Timberland
Troy
District 5
Joplin
Kickapoo
Ozark
Nixa
District 6
Lee Summit
Lee Summit West
Raymore-Peculiar
Rockhurst
District 7
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Hickman/Rockbridge
Lee Summit North
District 8
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill
Park Hill South
Here what 4 team districts look like
"I replace Holt for Seckman since Holt be possibly Class 5 this year"
District 1
Lindbergh
Marquette
Northwest (Cedar Hill)
Seckman
District 2
CBC
DESMET
SLUH
VIANNEY
District 3
Ft Zumwalt West
Hazelwood West
Hazelwood Central
Pattonville
District 4
Francis Howell
Rock Bridge/Hickman
Timberland
Troy
District 5
Joplin
Kickapoo
Ozark
Nixa
District 6
Lee Summit
Lee Summit West
Raymore-Peculiar
Rockhurst
District 7
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Hickman/Rockbridge
Lee Summit North
District 8
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill
Park Hill South
I think we should go back to 16 districts in all the other classes with 4 to 3 teams in each district. Still same tournament format we use now. I think some of these 8 team districts are just way too far geographical spread out. Plus the return of the Sectionals game would be exciting IMO.
i agree. What the chances of them going back to 5 Classes. we have 312 teams now. Around 62-63 each class with 5 Classes. i remember when they're was 332 teams back in 2015. We have lost around 20 schools the past 5 years and gain about 3 or 4 schools the past 5 years.
The top class won't go to 64 ever again IMO.
When contracting a class means 1-4 are all under 64 that's when it will happen.
if we ever see 5 Classes again it be in the next 5 or 10 years.
by 2030 we probably have around 300 teams. 8-10 teams will probably go 8-man, 2 or 3 schools might close, 1 or 2 could drop football or Co-op with other teams 11-man teams and 1 or 2 more high schools built.
Here is what 16 team districts would look like.
Class 1
1 – Hayti, Malden, Portageville
2 – Chafee, Charleston, Scott City, St. Vincent
3 – Brentwood, Crystal City, Principia, St. Pius X
4 – Louisiana, Mark Twain, Paris, Van-Far
5 – Russellville, South Callaway, Tipton, Tolton Catholic
6 – Cole Camp, Lincoln, Sweet Springs, Windsor
7 – Ash Grove, Cabool, Skyline, Thayer
8 – Diamond, Marionville, Miller, Pierce City
9 – Adrian, Midway, Sherwood
10 – Crest Ridge, Lone Jack, University Academy, Wellington-Napoleon
11 – East Buchanan, Mid-Buchanan, North Platte, West Platte
12 – Gallatin, Maysville, Penney, Plattsburg,
13 – Carrollton, Marceline, Polo, Salisbury
14 – Fayette, Harrisburg, Slater, Westran
15 – Milan, Princeton, Putnam County, South Harrison
16 – Highland, Monroe City, Scotland County, South Shelby
Class 2
1 – Caruthersville, East Prairie, Kelly, NMCC
2 – Cuba, Grandview, Jefferson
3 – Lift for Life, Lutheran South, Roosevelt
4 – Confluence Prep, Duchesne, Lutheran St. Charles
5 – Bowling Green, Brookfield, Clark County, Palmyra
6 -Hermann, Montgomery County, North Callaway
7 -Centralia, Hallsville, MMA
8 -California, Versailles, Warsaw
9 – Houston, MV Liberty, Willow Springs
10 -Ava, Forsyth, Springfield Catholic
11 – Clever, Fair Grove, Strafford
12 – East Newton, Lamar, Mount Vernon, Sarcoxie
13 -Butler, El Dorado Springs, Holden, Stockton
14 -Hogan Prep, Pembroke Hill, St. Michael’s
15 -Higginsville, Knob Noster, Lexington, Richmond
16 -Lathrop, Lawson, Maryville, Trenton
Class 3
1 – Dexter, Doniphan, Fredericktown, Kennett
2 –Park Hills Center, Potosi, Ste. Genevieve, Valle Catholic
3 – Bayless, Borgia, Herculaneum, St. Clair
4 –Cardinal Ritter, Miller Career, St. Mary’s, Vashon
5 –Lutheran North, Normandy, Soldan, University City
6 – Orchard Farm, St. Charles West, Westminster Christian
7 – Blair Oaks, Fulton, Wright City
8 – Boonville, Macon, Southern Boone
9 – Owensville, Salem, St. James, Sullivan
10 – Buffalo, Eldon, Osage
11 – Hollister, Mountain Grove, Reeds Spring
12 – Aurora, Cassville, Seneca
13 – Clinton, Pleasant Hill, Summit Christian
14 – Central, Northeast, Southeast
15 – Chillicothe, Oak Grove, Odessa
16 – Cameron, Savannah, St. Pius X
Class 1
1 – Hayti, Malden, Portageville
2 – Chafee, Charleston, Scott City, St. Vincent
3 – Brentwood, Crystal City, Principia, St. Pius X
4 – Louisiana, Mark Twain, Paris, Van-Far
5 – Russellville, South Callaway, Tipton, Tolton Catholic
6 – Cole Camp, Lincoln, Sweet Springs, Windsor
7 – Ash Grove, Cabool, Skyline, Thayer
8 – Diamond, Marionville, Miller, Pierce City
9 – Adrian, Midway, Sherwood
10 – Crest Ridge, Lone Jack, University Academy, Wellington-Napoleon
11 – East Buchanan, Mid-Buchanan, North Platte, West Platte
12 – Gallatin, Maysville, Penney, Plattsburg,
13 – Carrollton, Marceline, Polo, Salisbury
14 – Fayette, Harrisburg, Slater, Westran
15 – Milan, Princeton, Putnam County, South Harrison
16 – Highland, Monroe City, Scotland County, South Shelby
Class 2
1 – Caruthersville, East Prairie, Kelly, NMCC
2 – Cuba, Grandview, Jefferson
3 – Lift for Life, Lutheran South, Roosevelt
4 – Confluence Prep, Duchesne, Lutheran St. Charles
5 – Bowling Green, Brookfield, Clark County, Palmyra
6 -Hermann, Montgomery County, North Callaway
7 -Centralia, Hallsville, MMA
8 -California, Versailles, Warsaw
9 – Houston, MV Liberty, Willow Springs
10 -Ava, Forsyth, Springfield Catholic
11 – Clever, Fair Grove, Strafford
12 – East Newton, Lamar, Mount Vernon, Sarcoxie
13 -Butler, El Dorado Springs, Holden, Stockton
14 -Hogan Prep, Pembroke Hill, St. Michael’s
15 -Higginsville, Knob Noster, Lexington, Richmond
16 -Lathrop, Lawson, Maryville, Trenton
Class 3
1 – Dexter, Doniphan, Fredericktown, Kennett
2 –Park Hills Center, Potosi, Ste. Genevieve, Valle Catholic
3 – Bayless, Borgia, Herculaneum, St. Clair
4 –Cardinal Ritter, Miller Career, St. Mary’s, Vashon
5 –Lutheran North, Normandy, Soldan, University City
6 – Orchard Farm, St. Charles West, Westminster Christian
7 – Blair Oaks, Fulton, Wright City
8 – Boonville, Macon, Southern Boone
9 – Owensville, Salem, St. James, Sullivan
10 – Buffalo, Eldon, Osage
11 – Hollister, Mountain Grove, Reeds Spring
12 – Aurora, Cassville, Seneca
13 – Clinton, Pleasant Hill, Summit Christian
14 – Central, Northeast, Southeast
15 – Chillicothe, Oak Grove, Odessa
16 – Cameron, Savannah, St. Pius X
Class 4
1 – Farmington, North County, Perryville, Sikeston
2 – DeSoto, Festus, Hillsboro
3 – Pacific, Union, Windsor
4 - Affton, Bishop DuBourg, Gateway
5 -Clayton, John Burroughs, Parkway Central, Parkway North
6 -Hazelwood East, Jennings, Riverview Gardens
7 - McCluer, McCluer North, St. Charles, St. Dominic
8 – Hannibal, Mexico, Warrenton, Winfield
9 – Hillcrest, Logan-Rogersville, Marshfield, West Plains
10 – Bolivar, Carl Junction, McDonald County, Monett
11 – Harrisonville, Nevada, Warrensburg
12 – Center, Grandview, Raytown South
13 – East, Lincoln Prep, Van Horn
14 – Excelsior Springs, Kearney, Winnetonka
15 – Benton, Lafayette, Smithville
16 – Kirksville, Marshall, Moberly
Class 5
1 – Cape Central, Jackson, Poplar Bluff
2 - Fox, Mehlville, Oakville, Seckman
3 -Eureka, Lafayette, Rockwood Summit
4 – Kirkwood, Parkway South, Parkway West, Webster Groves
5 -Chaminade, Ladue Horton Watkins, Ritenour
6 – Francis Howell North, Ft Zumwalt East, Ft Zumwalt North, Ft Zumwalt South
7 – Francis Howell Central, Liberty, Washington
8 – Battle, Capital City, Helias, Jefferson City
9 – Camdenton, Lebanon, Rolla, Waynesville
10 – Parkview, Springfield Central, Willard
11 – Branson, Glendale, Republic
12 – Carthage, Neosho, Webb City
13 – Belton, Raytown, Ruskin
14 – Fort Osage, Grain Valley, Smith-Cotton
15 – North Kansas City, Truman, William Chrisman
16 – Oak Park, Platte County, Staley, St. Joe Central
Class 6
1 - Lindbergh, Marquette, Northwest (Cedar Hill), Seckman
2 - CBC, DeSmet, SLUH, Vianney
3 - Ft. Zumwalt West, Hazelwood West, Hazelwood Central
4 - Francis Howell, Rock Bridge, Timberland, Troy
5 - Joplin, Kickapoo, Nixa, Ozark
6 - Lee Summit, Lee Summit West, Ray-Pec, Rockhurst
7 - Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, Hickman, Lee's Summit North
8 - Liberty, Liberty North, Park Hill, Park Hill South
1 – Farmington, North County, Perryville, Sikeston
2 – DeSoto, Festus, Hillsboro
3 – Pacific, Union, Windsor
4 - Affton, Bishop DuBourg, Gateway
5 -Clayton, John Burroughs, Parkway Central, Parkway North
6 -Hazelwood East, Jennings, Riverview Gardens
7 - McCluer, McCluer North, St. Charles, St. Dominic
8 – Hannibal, Mexico, Warrenton, Winfield
9 – Hillcrest, Logan-Rogersville, Marshfield, West Plains
10 – Bolivar, Carl Junction, McDonald County, Monett
11 – Harrisonville, Nevada, Warrensburg
12 – Center, Grandview, Raytown South
13 – East, Lincoln Prep, Van Horn
14 – Excelsior Springs, Kearney, Winnetonka
15 – Benton, Lafayette, Smithville
16 – Kirksville, Marshall, Moberly
Class 5
1 – Cape Central, Jackson, Poplar Bluff
2 - Fox, Mehlville, Oakville, Seckman
3 -Eureka, Lafayette, Rockwood Summit
4 – Kirkwood, Parkway South, Parkway West, Webster Groves
5 -Chaminade, Ladue Horton Watkins, Ritenour
6 – Francis Howell North, Ft Zumwalt East, Ft Zumwalt North, Ft Zumwalt South
7 – Francis Howell Central, Liberty, Washington
8 – Battle, Capital City, Helias, Jefferson City
9 – Camdenton, Lebanon, Rolla, Waynesville
10 – Parkview, Springfield Central, Willard
11 – Branson, Glendale, Republic
12 – Carthage, Neosho, Webb City
13 – Belton, Raytown, Ruskin
14 – Fort Osage, Grain Valley, Smith-Cotton
15 – North Kansas City, Truman, William Chrisman
16 – Oak Park, Platte County, Staley, St. Joe Central
Class 6
1 - Lindbergh, Marquette, Northwest (Cedar Hill), Seckman
2 - CBC, DeSmet, SLUH, Vianney
3 - Ft. Zumwalt West, Hazelwood West, Hazelwood Central
4 - Francis Howell, Rock Bridge, Timberland, Troy
5 - Joplin, Kickapoo, Nixa, Ozark
6 - Lee Summit, Lee Summit West, Ray-Pec, Rockhurst
7 - Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, Hickman, Lee's Summit North
8 - Liberty, Liberty North, Park Hill, Park Hill South
It’s called “The Jones Effect.” Liberty north enrollment has increased from 1600 to 2200 since he made the move
Hey, yeah, that way you get twice as many district champions! Sounds like "Participation Trophies" to me. When are you people EVER going to be satisfied with the playoff system?
I actually liked the old system with 4 teams and played the round robin to end the season. I didn't like it when they added 2 teams out of each district made the playoffs. I also like the current system how they rank them and then play it out bracket style. I don't like the 8 team districts that are spread out geographically that make travel stupid in many cases. You get the best of both playoff systems with the 4 team 16 districts. And those "participation trophies" is a bunch of BS. A District championship would mean the world to a lot of the programs and communities they are in.
Please, spare us the vaunted "district championship" argument. Those mean little whey they are watered down, just like "participation" trophies. "Well, thanks for coming."
I also like the current ranking system except when a team with an easy schedule gets home field advantage over another team in their district which played a tougher one. It shouldn't work out that way, but it does, and is somewhat rectified by the winner getting home field if the teams played in the regular season.
As far as travel goes, the ones doing the stupid travel now are the lower ranked teams. Post-district play is entirely another thing. In your scenario, a better team winning in their mini district would often have to travel that long distance to play a lesser team. That wouldn't happen in an 8-team district. So the argument is moot since the district "champs" would still have stupid travel.
Glad to know 24 years of District Championships mean nothing.
This will never happen, get rid of conferences. 8 team district with your first game can be a rival game if they are not in your district. Seed after game 9. Never going to be perfect. But that's life.
I like the old 4 team district with one moving on too. When they had 2 move on it was a bit watered down. These 1 vs 8 games are real beneficial for everyone 🙄
Not that anyone cares, I really don't even care that much but really I do think the current setup is superior to the others. The 4 team district had it's issues, one being when you had 2 or even 3 solid teams in close proximity to each other. They tried to rectify this by adding a second team but that system was just kind of wonky and watered down.
So here we are with everyone "in" and just play until you lose. Yes there are quirks like rewarding a team with a weak schedule and the value of an 8 seed's 200 mile road trip to the slaughter house is debatable.
But it's about as fair as it can get and it gives all teams at least a theoretical chance, even if they struggled most of the season but found a stride late. The teams that performed well all season are generally rewarded with home field advantage.
I do think the bye weeks in C5 are better than the 1/8 games in other classes, if the classifications and seedings could be arranged to at least allow the top team in each district to earn a bye.
So here we are with everyone "in" and just play until you lose. Yes there are quirks like rewarding a team with a weak schedule and the value of an 8 seed's 200 mile road trip to the slaughter house is debatable.
But it's about as fair as it can get and it gives all teams at least a theoretical chance, even if they struggled most of the season but found a stride late. The teams that performed well all season are generally rewarded with home field advantage.
I do think the bye weeks in C5 are better than the 1/8 games in other classes, if the classifications and seedings could be arranged to at least allow the top team in each district to earn a bye.
What if you have 3 teams sharing a long-held rivalry? Plenty of examples I could give you, but shutting down conferences will eliminate the last vestiges of traditional rivalries and the current system makes it possible to have it both ways. You're right about it never going to be perfect, but it's nearly perfect as it is, so leave it alone.
I guess they could, but if they want to play, which I think is a given, then they have to make the trip.
Don't know how often that is really an issue though. I hear about it a lot down here because of schools like Joplin and West Plains that are much larger than other schools in their region and get grouped with far flung districts.
I'm always surprised Staley is still Class 5. I would think they will be moving up pretty quickly. A lot of those subdivisions built up there 10-15 years ago should have a large influx of teenagers coming through about now. The school complex there is massive.
