Explain how this is a level field.

[jlar2015]

http://www.columbiatribune.com/spor...cle_b1910fe9-6a99-50e1-abcd-6f7192914656.html


Tindal’s accomplished wresting career actually helped him get to Tolton in the first place. Tindal grew up in Owensville, a small town approximately 50 miles southeast of Jefferson City. As a youth, he trained under Mike Eierman — who also coached J’den Cox and Jaydin Clayton — in Millersburg, nearly 90 minutes away. He later learned that Tony Eierman, Mike’s brother, was the wrestling coach at Tolton. He and his family arranged for Tindal to stay with classmates so he could attend Tolton, where his wrestling career put him on the map.

“The whole reason I came up here was for wrestling, basically,” Tindal said.

"This is a kid whose family moved him for a sport and says it in the highest profile newspaper in central Missouri. MSHSAA rules are a joke."

 

[Veer2Eternity]

http://www.columbiatribune.com/spor...cle_b1910fe9-6a99-50e1-abcd-6f7192914656.html


Tindal’s accomplished wresting career actually helped him get to Tolton in the first place. Tindal grew up in Owensville, a small town approximately 50 miles southeast of Jefferson City. As a youth, he trained under Mike Eierman — who also coached J’den Cox and Jaydin Clayton — in Millersburg, nearly 90 minutes away. He later learned that Tony Eierman, Mike’s brother, was the wrestling coach at Tolton. He and his family arranged for Tindal to stay with classmates so he could attend Tolton, where his wrestling career put him on the map.

“The whole reason I came up here was for wrestling, basically,” Tindal said.

"This is a kid whose family moved him for a sport and says it in the highest profile newspaper in central Missouri. MSHSAA rules are a joke."

Private schools don't have an advantage. Just ask them

 

[Anders4]

http://www.columbiatribune.com/spor...cle_b1910fe9-6a99-50e1-abcd-6f7192914656.html


Tindal’s accomplished wresting career actually helped him get to Tolton in the first place. Tindal grew up in Owensville, a small town approximately 50 miles southeast of Jefferson City. As a youth, he trained under Mike Eierman — who also coached J’den Cox and Jaydin Clayton — in Millersburg, nearly 90 minutes away. He later learned that Tony Eierman, Mike’s brother, was the wrestling coach at Tolton. He and his family arranged for Tindal to stay with classmates so he could attend Tolton, where his wrestling career put him on the map.

“The whole reason I came up here was for wrestling, basically,” Tindal said.

"This is a kid whose family moved him for a sport and says it in the highest profile newspaper in central Missouri. MSHSAA rules are a joke."

When did he originally move there? Was he entering freshman year?

 

[jlar2015]

Entering your freshmen year or not a kid could not live in the Columbja Hickman school district, but stay with friends who live in the Columbia Rock Bridge School district and be eligible at to play sports at Rock Bridge.

It's recruiting, plain and simple. Your good, come here, stay with different families and play sports for us. If it happened at a public school you wouldn't be eligible.

 

[cr7707]

is your little wresting all-star trying to win a district championship or something? I'm sure the grapplers that have to compete against Owensville are just as happy he moved as you are mad. its a zero sum game.

Maryville high is filled with move-ins from 8 man and 1a schools. you should add that to your list of grievances.

Don't be naive. why do you think the MSHSAA won't step in? it's because they all do it. the big public schools are the worst offenders. if it was just a private school issue it would have been stopped long ago. again, don't be naive.

 

[jlar2015]

is your little wresting all-star trying to win a district championship or something? I'm sure the grapplers that have to compete against Owensville are just as happy he moved as you are mad. its a zero sum game.

Maryville high is filled with move-ins from 8 man and 1a schools. you should add that to your list of greivances.

Actually I don't like wrestling at all, unless it's Stone Cold applying the Stunner to you sir, but it's plain and simple not level and if it's ok for them just say it's ok for all school and no one can complain because the field would be level.

 

[MORock]

Private schools don't have an advantage. Just ask them

Has nothing to do with the school being private. Not saying right or wrong in this particular situation, but if you think this type of thing doesn't happen with public schools as well then you are woefully naive.

 

[jlar2015]

Has nothing to do with the school being private. Not saying right or wrong in this particular situation, but if you think this type of thing doesn't happen with public schools as well then you are woefully naive.

If a kid moved in with different families and then in the news paper admitted to it and said I moved because of sports (Would they be eligible at a public school?)

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

Pull a Vince McMahon and strip him of his titles. Then give him the "Rock Bottom" for the crowd!

 

[jlar2015]

Pull a Vince McMahon and strip him of his titles. Then give him the "Rock Bottom" for the crowd!

I also am a fan of the DDP Diamond Cutter.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Has nothing to do with the school being private. Not saying right or wrong in this particular situation, but if you think this type of thing doesn't happen with public schools as well then you are woefully naive.

Can you name kids who have transferred to Private schools and had to sit out a year?
There are several that have transferred public schools and had to sit.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

is your little wresting all-star trying to win a district championship or something? I'm sure the grapplers that have to compete against Owensville are just as happy he moved as you are mad. its a zero sum game.

Maryville high is filled with move-ins from 8 man and 1a schools. you should add that to your list of grievances.

Don't be naive. why do you think the MSHSAA won't step in? it's because they all do it. the big public schools are the worst offenders. if it was just a private school issue it would have been stopped long ago. again, don't be naive.

Going far out on a limb here...Private school educated? Kids attend private school?

 

[coachperk]

We can never make the field level for every school. It's been attempted in KC school district and it didn't work out. I never bought in to the idea that life is fair.
In a perfect world I would've sent my son's to Rockhurst, so during the school day they wouldn't be distracted by all the leg that distracted me every single second of my high school academic time.

 

[jlar2015]

Life's not fair that's true, but there are laws that you follow and if you break em in the real world little Johnny goes to jail. IMHO I would rather ur boy looking at a little leg than what he might be looking at at the Rock.

 

[coachperk]

Life's not fair that's true, but there are laws that you follow and if you break em in the real world little Johnny goes to jail. IMHO I would rather ur boy looking at a little leg than what he might be looking at at the Rock.

I've taught where the same sex students are kissing in the hallways. Boy's are elected homecoming queens. We're from different areas I guess. Open your eyes, get off your high horse. Who are we to say what is right. In the real world s""t happens, I just would keep my head down and go with it. This is 2016, a different era, the laws are arbitrary.
If I could hire Peyton Manning to teach my kid to play quarterback, and he was good as a result, I would find a school that throws the ball every play. This doesn't seem wrong to me. I'd move there too. So I could watch him throw it every Friday night. If he was in Math bowl every Wed night, I might miss one or two of those.

 

[SadButTrue]

Has nothing to do with the school being private. Not saying right or wrong in this particular situation, but if you think this type of thing doesn't happen with public schools as well then you are woefully naive.

Ah ha. Then, finally, you admit private schools do recruit.

 

[jlar2015]

I've taught where the same sex students are kissing in the hallways. Boy's are elected homecoming queens. We're from different areas I guess. Open your eyes, get off your high horse. Who are we to say what is right. In the real world s""t happens, I just would keep my head down and go with it. This is 2016, a different era, the laws are arbitrary.
If I could hire Peyton Manning to teach my kid to play quarterback, and he was good as a result, I would find a school that throws the ball every play. This doesn't seem wrong to me. I'd move there too. So I could watch him throw it every Friday night. If he was in Math bowl every Wed night, I might miss one or two of those.

Well we don't allow kissing in the hallways one way or the other and I'll ride my high horse tall and proud. Also if you move with your son and it's a full family move into the school district then the kid is typically eligible. Also, if your kid can throw the rock why not stay at the current school where the coach would surely use him if he was that good as opposed to moving him. I call that not having pride in where you came from, but that is me calling it from way up here on my horse and you may not hear me.

 

[coachperk]

Well we don't allow kissing in the hallways one way or the other and I'll ride my high horse tall and proud. Also if you move with your son and it's a full family move into the school district then the kid is typically eligible. Also, if your kid can throw the rock why not stay at the current school where the coach would surely use him if he was that good as opposed to moving him. I call that not having pride in where you came from, but that is me calling it from way up here on my horse and you may not hear me.

This is a hypothetical example, Peyton and all, but there are many people that want the very best for their children and this is why they change schools dummy. I don't understand why that is so hard to understand. If his former school was shrangri lah he would not have transferred. Athlete's do it all the time at the college level. Some sit out, some don't. I find no fault in this. No one should tell me where I can educate my children, play sports even if the lure of a great wrestling or football program comes before an excellent education in the mind of the parents. Typically in private schools both are the norm, high quality athletics and academics . Nor should I be penalized for changing schools once the gifts of a young athlete are realized. You have a terrible example here, obviously the kid has talent, regardless of who coached him. Would you penalize a musical genious that went to specialized music school from competing in a band competition? They teach other subjects beside music in specailized private schools, and they have sports programs.
There's the money issue too. Money to go to a private school. It's not cheap. Those who have the money work for it, so they can send their kids to the best private school.

 

[jlar2015]

This is a hypothetical example, Peyton and all, but there are many people that want the very best for their children and this is why they change schools dummy. I don't understand why that is so hard to understand. I find no fault in this. No one should tell me where I can educate my children, play sports even if the lure of a great wrestling or football program comes before an excellent education in the mind of the parents. Typically in private schools both are the norm, high quality athletics and academics . Nor should I be penalized for changing schools once the gifts of a young athlete are realized. You have a terrible example here, obviously the kid has talent, regardless of who coached him. Would you penalize a musical genious that went to specialized music school from competing in a band competition? They teach other subjects beside music in specailized private schools, and they have sports programs.

If you would read one of my earlier posts where I said make it ok for kids to move freely to public schools like they do private and I have no problem with it ya dummy. If My little Johnny goes to a 5A public school and is average but I could send my little Johnny to a 3A public school and he could be the star he will have to sit out a year. If I move him to a private school with like 30 miles of where I live he is eligible. Make the same rule for public and I'm ok with it (like I said before). Do you disagree with this??

 

[coachperk]

Explain how this a level playing field? That is the title of the post, and the crux of the paragraph. Have you changed your mind? Please explain to me what your beef is and why you called out the MSHSAA and Tindal over a kid from Owensville? Did you not object to his transfer? Why call MSHSAA a joke?

 

[jlar2015]

Explain how this a level playing field? That is the title of the post of the original post and you apparently changed your mind. Please explain to me what your beef is and why you called out the MSHSAA and Tindal over a kid from Owensville? Did you not object to his transfer? Why call MSHSAA a joke?

I didn't call out the kid he used a rule that is OK by MSHSAA to transfer to a private school. I called out MSHSAA because they ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN which makes the field have an unfair advantage. It goes hand in hand with the title. I never said anything about the kid so don't put words in my mouth. Put it all together, read and use some common sense.

 

[coachperk]

As I said, it's not a level playing field. Get used to it. Get over it. People pay to send their kids to private schools. That's the difference. Some do it for religious, athletic, musical and tiddly winks talents. Who cares if it's fair. If you have the cash that's how it goes. Line up your kids and kick their ass. You both put your pants on one leg at a time. Wealthy school districts beat up on limited resourced schools all the time. It's not a negotiable subject. Go to MSHSAA, write a letter, get a lawyer, take it to the Missouri Supreme court. ( it's more than likely already to have been litigated). I'm not following you at all. It's a ridiculous post. You think swimmers that have parents in elite AAU programs from todlers to high school don't have an advantage? Do you think smart kids do better on tests than dumb kids? That's not fair either.

 

[jlar2015]

You don't have to have cash they can give scholarships to good athletes. Answer another question. (A three year starting QB transfers from public school "A" to a private school "B" for his senior year. Public school A has to play private B in districts that year. How do you line your kids up without the 3 year starter leading them and beat the kid you gave your time and leadership to for 3 years? By putting your pants on the same way they do. The post makes sense but the rules don't.

 

[coachperk]

You don't have to have cash they can give scholarships to good athletes. Answer another question. (A three year starting QB transfers from public school "A" to a private school "B" for his senior year. Public school A has to play private B in districts that year. How do you line your kids up without the 3 year starter leading them and beat the kid you gave your time and leadership to for 3 years? By putting your pants on the same way they do. The post makes sense but the rules don't.

The private schools don't depend on state funds to educate the students or pay the teachers. They have private donors and many people pay for tuition to those schools, they earn their own money. Private schools can do whatever they want with their money. That's how it works. I say tough tamale over the second question. Why'd he transfer? Any reason is OK with me. The rules are fine. If the same athlete transferred from a private school to a public school he would be eligible. I've had that very scenario many many times. They were eligible. I know it's hard for you to believe but you are wrong here. You are well intentioned I'm sure, but you are wrong. I can give you three examples off the top of my head. All of the kids are still playing in college. One of them is playing for MU.

 

[jlar2015]

The private schools don't depend on state funds to educate the students or pay the teachers. They have private donors and many people pay for tuition to those schools, they earn their own money. Private schools can do whatever they want with their money. That's how it works. I say tough tamale over the second question. Why'd he transfer? Any reason is OK with me. The rules are fine. If the same athlete transferred from a private school to a public school he would be eligible. I've had that very scenario many many times. They were eligible. I know it's hard for you to believe but you are wrong here. You are well intentioned I'm sure, but you are wrong. I can give you three examples off the top of my head. All of the kids are still playing. One of them is playing for MU.

Give the examples. In MSHSAA rule they can't be eligible not living in the district...Nope no way they can't be sorry. However if you live in a major city that has open inrollment a kid can transfer without moving but can't play varsity for a year. I'm right. Kirk kid played JV bball after transferring and was dropping 40 a game while he couldn't play varsity for a year.

 

[jlar2015]

The private schools don't depend on state funds to educate the students or pay the teachers. They have private donors and many people pay for tuition to those schools, they earn their own money. Private schools can do whatever they want with their money. That's how it works. I say tough tamale over the second question. Why'd he transfer? Any reason is OK with me. The rules are fine. If the same athlete transferred from a private school to a public school he would be eligible. I've had that very scenario many many times. They were eligible. I know it's hard for you to believe but you are wrong here. You are well intentioned I'm sure, but you are wrong. I can give you three examples off the top of my head. All of the kids are still playing in college. One of them is playing for MU.

By the way you didn't answer how to beat them you just said tough. So piss on the other 60 kids who have depended on their QB for 3 years and who cares.

 

[coachperk]

By the way you didn't answer how to beat them you just said tough. So piss on the other 60 kids who have depended on their QB for 3 years and who cares.

Did this really happen? I've had kids transfer by moving to other school districts (boundaries) and playing for another program and I've subsequently faced their team. Non issue. I wish we'd kept some of them.

 

[jlar2015]

Has happened on two occasions where I personally know the coach in the last 8 years and I know 2 isn't many but it's damn tough and those are two that measly old me know about.

 

[coachperk]

Now you're talking my language. I take back what I wrote. I've had that happent too but they were approached much earlier in their careers, most before their freshman year, some after 9th grade. Never a leader going into their senior year. All were good athlete's. But nothing like what you've explained here. We had time to recover.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

I've taught where the same sex students are kissing in the hallways. Boy's are elected homecoming queens. We're from different areas I guess. Open your eyes, get off your high horse. Who are we to say what is right. In the real world s""t happens, I just would keep my head down and go with it. This is 2016, a different era, the laws are arbitrary.
If I could hire Peyton Manning to teach my kid to play quarterback, and he was good as a result, I would find a school that throws the ball every play. This doesn't seem wrong to me. I'd move there too. So I could watch him throw it every Friday night. If he was in Math bowl every Wed night, I might miss one or two of those.

For 1, Public Display of Affection can not happen in any school, let alone by the same sex... Show me 1 school where a boy was elected homecoming queen. If you move with your son, your are eligible to play!

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

This is a hypothetical example, Peyton and all, but there are many people that want the very best for their children and this is why they change schools dummy. I don't understand why that is so hard to understand. If his former school was shrangri lah he would not have transferred. Athlete's do it all the time at the college level. Some sit out, some don't. I find no fault in this. No one should tell me where I can educate my children, play sports even if the lure of a great wrestling or football program comes before an excellent education in the mind of the parents. Typically in private schools both are the norm, high quality athletics and academics . Nor should I be penalized for changing schools once the gifts of a young athlete are realized. You have a terrible example here, obviously the kid has talent, regardless of who coached him. Would you penalize a musical genious that went to specialized music school from competing in a band competition? They teach other subjects beside music in specailized private schools, and they have sports programs.
There's the money issue too. Money to go to a private school. It's not cheap. Those who have the money work for it, so they can send their kids to the best private school.

Or the private school usually finds a scholarship for that kid! If you want to attend a Private school, pay for it out of your own pocket. A lot of great athletes do not have to pay to attend a private school.

 

[JoeDear-Tay]

If you live there then play there. If your family wants to move there to play there then great. No "live-ins" for playing there. If you want to go private then pay for it yourself no tuition grants or scholarships.

 

[shoot90draw]

Explain how this a level playing field? That is the title of the post, and the crux of the paragraph. Have you changed your mind? Please explain to me what your beef is and why you called out the MSHSAA and Tindal over a kid from Owensville? Did you not object to his transfer? Why call MSHSAA a joke?

I didn't call out the kid he used a rule that is OK by MSHSAA to transfer to a private school. I called out MSHSAA because they ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN which makes the field have an unfair advantage. It goes hand in hand with the title. I never said anything about the kid so don't put words in my mouth. Put it all together, read and use some common sense.

I think coachperk and jlar2015 are the new Joey and Blizzard.....

 

[coachperk]

For 1, Public Display of Affection can not happen in any school, let alone by the same sex... Show me 1 school where a boy was elected homecoming queen. If you move with your son, your are eligible to play!

Ohh pleeease. you silly okie .How about this? No. you find it.

 

[coachperk]

For 1, Public Display of Affection can not happen in any school, let alone by the same sex... Show me 1 school where a boy was elected homecoming queen. If you move with your son, your are eligible to play!

Rillee? rillly? ohhhh pleease grasshopuh you r sheltered.

 

[sbdude]

For 1, Public Display of Affection can not happen in any school, let alone by the same sex... Show me 1 school where a boy was elected homecoming queen. If you move with your son, your are eligible to play!

Highlighted above is NOT necessarily true.

 

[bullitpdq68]

If one parent moves with one child not the whole family to another school district then they could be ruled ineligible.
This happened a few years back locally when a student moved with a parent to another local district and they were ruled ineligible for one year.

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

If one parent moves with one child not the whole family to another school district then they could be ruled ineligible.
This happened a few years back locally when a student moved with a parent to another local district and they were ruled ineligible for one year.

If custody of the child is transferred too. Hire a lawyer and you will become eligible immediately.. Happened this year!

 

[bullitpdq68]

If custody of the child is transferred too. Hire a lawyer and you will become eligible immediately.. Happened this year!

Transferred? A parent should have custody. The Rules state that the entire family has to move.

• If you transfer schools, you will be ineligible for 365 days, unless your circumstances meet one of the exceptions listed in the MSHSAA Residence and Transfer Rules (By-Law 3.10). Make an appointment with the school's athletic director to review these exceptions. Several, but not all, are described below.
• Exception 1: If you move with your entire family to your new school district, you will be eligible at your new school provided you were eligible in all other respects at your former school and provided there are no other issues with the transfer. You and your entire family must move to the new residence at the same time prior to attending classes.
• Always check with your school principal or athletic director before you transfer to determine whether it will affect your eligibility.
• Discipline follows a student to a new school. Being expelled from a school also causes 365 days of ineligibility for a student.
• Exception 2: A student may be eligible immediately at the school of his or her choice upon first being promoted from the 8th grade into the 9th grade, provided the student is eligible in all other respects.
• Exception 10: Foreign Exchange Students are eligible for varsity competition for one year only and only if they are seniors (semester 7 or 8), provided they are participating in an exchange program listed by CSIET. However, no member of the school's coaching staff for the sport concerned may serve as a host family.
• You shall become ineligible for 365 days if you transfer to another school for athletic reasons.

 

[jlar2015]

Ohh pleeease. you silly okie .How about this? No. you find it.

I googled it and found nothing, can't be true because Google tells all truths like MSHSAA. Right now it's allowing privates to transfer soon it will be a coach getting 5 boys to claim transgender trying to win a state title. I wouldn't want to have to deal with that scenario ever.