Everyone that said Kirk wood was not good they just won class 6 easy. I guess North does play good c
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So because they beat BS that means that means North plays a good schedule???? So I guess that means the ROCK BSS and Park Hill played great schedules because they all beat RayPec whom beat BS as well. Dumb logic. WEBB lost to CJ by 16 then beat them by 21, its FOOTBALL anything can happen any given night. Hville has tradition, 3 consecutive Class 3 titles, North made the class 5 playoffs and you call them great????? Congrats they moved down from Class 5, means nothing more than that. Biggest difference between classes is usually numbers. The top class 4 teams have as many as 5 and 6's do. Think you may get a suprise come Saturday.
if your comparing good class 5 schools to good class 4 schools they aren't even close. Only
exception I will ever give is Webb in their hey day they could of played with any class. State Champion class 5 would beat class 4 champion every time with the exception of Webb. They where
the best class 4 champions in missouri history.
exception I will ever give is Webb in their hey day they could of played with any class. State Champion class 5 would beat class 4 champion every time with the exception of Webb. They where
the best class 4 champions in missouri history.
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Are you, like, even aware of Kearney's record vs. the C5 powers in the KC metro in the Jones era?
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EDIT: 2003 Class 5 champion Park Hill would disagree, at least with the idea that 2003 Kearney would have been favorites to win Class 5 or 6.
I remember people coming out of the 2003 championship games wanting to see Blue Springs and Park Hill head-to-head.
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Kirkwood kicked butt. No doubt they are the best team in class 6 and all classes for that matter.
FYI, they played a wounded team in the final, a backup quarterback, and wounded running game. Not that the BS coach made it an excuse, he went of his way to comment it wouldn't have mattered. Classy classy coach.
FYI, they played a wounded team in the final, a backup quarterback, and wounded running game. Not that the BS coach made it an excuse, he went of his way to comment it wouldn't have mattered. Classy classy coach.
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Is it just me or are all 3 of the top classes down this year? Maybe I have been watching too much college and pro ball but I wasn't terribly impressed by Battle, Blue Springs, Rockurst, Park Hill, ... and those are some of the state's top programs.
Kirkwood was pretty impressive last night but they weren't exactly dominate over Rockhurst ... and sorry Nwalls that doesn’t change the fact that they played a weak regular season schedule.
Kirkwood was pretty impressive last night but they weren't exactly dominate over Rockhurst ... and sorry Nwalls that doesn’t change the fact that they played a weak regular season schedule.
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Yes, and no. I think parity is the better word. This BS team is average by BS standards. Staley lost to two average teams in the regular season, and a team that lost 5 games last night. I saw a lot of potent offenses this year, but an overall average poor year in defenses. Staley defense was exceptional in the front7, but as you saw, the back end is typical. Dogs get it done with a good quarterback, scrappy defense, and great special teams. We shall see today.
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Bring any class 4 team in the State and play Kirk wood schedule even Kearney would lose
1 game. You don't know anything about St. Louis football Vianney beat a great Staley team
last night. Kearney is a great class 4 team but this team doesn't come close to class 4 Webb
best teams, or Kirkwood last night or Vianney or CBC or Chaminade and the list goes on. Kirkwood
had a couple guys missing even when a West Team wins people figure out a way to give no credit.
1 game. You don't know anything about St. Louis football Vianney beat a great Staley team
last night. Kearney is a great class 4 team but this team doesn't come close to class 4 Webb
best teams, or Kirkwood last night or Vianney or CBC or Chaminade and the list goes on. Kirkwood
had a couple guys missing even when a West Team wins people figure out a way to give no credit.
Sorry if your feelings got hurt. I'm sure Kirkwood is enjoying their championship and couldn't care less what little ol' me says on this message board.
It doesn't really matter if you like what I'm saying, it is the truth. I have seen some great Blue Springs football teams over the past few decades. Last night I did not.
As others pointed out, Blue Springs ended the regular season with a loss to Ray-Pec. RP only won 2 of their final 6 games with wins over BS and St. Joe Central. That’s not good company.
It doesn't really matter if you like what I'm saying, it is the truth. I have seen some great Blue Springs football teams over the past few decades. Last night I did not.
As others pointed out, Blue Springs ended the regular season with a loss to Ray-Pec. RP only won 2 of their final 6 games with wins over BS and St. Joe Central. That’s not good company.
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Haha I would have loved to see that Kearney team vs. Park Hill. Would've not been pretty.
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No shutdown defenses this year. That, for me, is the big difference between this and prior years.
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Also I was referring to his comment about Webb being the best Class 4 team ever (whichever year he is referencing).
It wouldn't have been pretty for a Class 4 team that thought they were god's gift to football.
Park Hill rushed 430 yards in their dominating win over the undefeated and defending champs Webster Groves while shutting down their All-American QB.
Honestly, Oak Park with All-American RB Michael Keenan was the best Northland team in 2003. He rushed for something like 340 yards and 5-6 TDs in a district loss to Blue Springs.
So 2003 Kearney was the #3 team in the KC Northland that year. Not bad for Class 4.
How many games did you see Blue Springs, Oak Park, and Park Hill play in 2003?
Kearney did exceptionally well in Class 4 in 2003. Would they have beaten 2000 or 2001 Webb City or Park Hill? I don't know but if they would have been favorites it wouldn't have been by much. 2002 Kearney certainly would not have won in 2000 or 2001. They most likely wouldn't even have gotten out of a district with Park Hill.
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I understand we all have our biases (yes, even me) but the non-KC people I talked to at state who saw all three teams (BS, PH, & Kearney) didn't understand all the talk about Kearney. They thought either of the Class 5 and 6 champs would have handled them.
You can take this as an insult if you like but it isn't. 2003 Kearney was one of the top couple of Class 4 teams in that decade, maybe even all-time for Class 4.
You can take this as an insult if you like but it isn't. 2003 Kearney was one of the top couple of Class 4 teams in that decade, maybe even all-time for Class 4.
Parkway North is a good football team but probably 5th-6th best team if they were on west side of state. Kirkwood game was fools gold.
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FINALLY get to respond to this rubbish: Jealous much? BTW in 2003 K beat a very highly regarded (with a Coffman who is still in the NFL) Ray-Pec 42-6 after playing them pretty much even the year before (lost 37-28). That Ray-Pec team dominated Park Hill in the 2002 semi. As for 2003 (I have all the KC star articles saved from both years) I remember attending Park Hill's Houdini-like escape over Winnetonka 14-13 in the semifinal. NONE of the newspaper articles nor the sports talk back then even mentioned the Trojans but I do, of course, congratulate them on their title in 2003.
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They opened the season with a 24-21 victory over now C5 finalist FZ North. They had a lot of size and speed from what I could see watching the webcast. K is very, very lucky to have survived that one.
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I see chuckwagon66 liked Honcho's revisionist History lesson.........wonder how much he liked that 2003 semi in Webb?
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Add to that Webb has played many teams in the KC metro area...............ask them who they respect the most. That should be a pretty obvious answer.
Webb smebb. Why give a rats arse that small ball beat a depleted Rockhurst?. All of you turds are too young and stupid to know what you don't know. If we're gonna talk 2003, class 4 versus Rock, get real! Get serious!.
What is the only Missouri high school football PROGRAM to be inducted into the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame???
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And very deservedly so...............I may not care for some "webbies" but respect that program like no other.
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Had two nearly-NFL players on Kearney 2003 and a bunch more very talented ones (QB and RB in particular). Only knock on that team was lack of depth..............avoided any major injuries thus that season happened.
Depleted or not that small ball team, which is ignorant in itself handed ROCK a beating at home by 26. They only had two losses and beat BSS and BS twice and it was the same year CBC only beat them 31-24 in the semis. Depleted, lol. WEBB IS 2-0 against that depleted ROCK team and Jeff City and Rock Bridge. WEBB smeb, poor Hillary fan.....
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I am beginning to believe FistOH and BlizzardX are either the same person or closely related...........
Lol, No, not the same person. In my opinion, the Joe Windsor era was the best football teams of the Kearney era. Those teams would beat every team since and before including 2002 and 2003. As for Rockhurst, being the gold standard of Kansas City football, you are all very far off. That rose has bloomed and faded. Those great Rockhurst teams, Jeff City teams that were defeated by and won State Championships against St. Louis powers, there's no comparison to recent history and then. That's all I'm saying.
2003, had a William Jewell level QB and walk on over achiever Reciever at Missouri, a legit Big 12 Lber. All very good. All very good class 4 players, but the team was small in numbers. They would not stand up to large class schedule that has the luxury of many more one-way players, that have equal or better talent. It's just common sense, one gets tired.
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