Electing a Socialist for President.... for what?

[BigMODog]

Are we really poorer than our parents?
Is global income inequality rising or falling?
What causes rising Health Care and Education Costs?
Is the middle class worse off?
Are Americans really worse off than the 1970s?
Are deaths from cancer declining?
Is there a mental health epidemic?
Wage stagnation?
What killed extreme poverty?
Half of the world is now Middle Class or Wealthy?
Is income inequality the injustice Socialist claim it to be?

The upshot is that growth in nominal wages, or lack thereof, does not reflect the real changes in the standard of living experienced by the vast majority of Americans. That’s something to keep in mind when Americans contemplate the choice between capitalism and socialism.

 

[SadButTrue]

You wouldn’t even be having to worry about any of this if the republican senate would just throw Trump out. Pence or any other republican could have maintained Obama’s economy and been re-elected by simply not being a vile conman jerk. He didn’t clean the swamp. He put foxes in charge of the henhouse. Republicans had a perfect chance to have an easy 2 term president and instead put a dik in charge.

yes and he would have appointed conservative judges to the SC, and been against abortion, and would have been justifiable to the evangelicals. But everyone thinks trump is the only one that would do all of that.

 

[BigMODog]

You wouldn’t even be having to worry about any of this if the republican senate would just throw Trump out. Pence or any other republican could have maintained Obama’s economy and been re-elected by simply not being a vile conman jerk. He didn’t clean the swamp. He put foxes in charge of the henhouse. Republicans had a perfect chance to have an easy 2 term president and instead put a dik in charge.

Trump is proving Obama delayed the recovery more than he helped it.
Dimwits make bad decisions because of their overly pessimistic reactions, fundamental dishonesty and need to create conspiracies to justify their party's existence.

 

[Veerman_12]

You wouldn’t even be having to worry about any of this if the republican senate would just throw Trump out. Pence or any other republican could have maintained Obama’s economy and been re-elected by simply not being a vile conman jerk. He didn’t clean the swamp. He put foxes in charge of the henhouse. Republicans had a perfect chance to have an easy 2 term president and instead put a dik in charge.

A what?

 

[Veerman_12]

You wouldn’t even be having to worry about any of this if the republican senate would just throw Trump out. Pence or any other republican could have maintained Obama’s economy and been re-elected by simply not being a vile conman jerk. He didn’t clean the swamp. He put foxes in charge of the henhouse. Republicans had a perfect chance to have an easy 2 term president and instead put a dik in charge.

 

[SadButTrue]

you know a veerman_12

 

[have an idea]

you know a veerman_12

reported for obscenity

 

[Veerman_12]

I've (probably) helped more people this year than in any previous year, I was finally in a place financially, emotionally, and spiritually where I was in a position to be an extremely positive change in the lives of others. In 2020, I will help even more.

Turns out the more people you help, the more successful you become...

But people on here would rather complain about billionaires from their $1000 iPhones, meanwhile what have they done to affect positive change?

Everyone sees them for what they really are.

 

[Veerman_12]

I gave a disabled niece I have given thousands of dollars of assistance to over the years. I set up 529 accounts for all my other nieces and nephews and contribute to those.
None of this will show up on a tax return as “charitable” giving. I try to help take care of my own. Even though they aren’t really my own. I didn’t need a religion or spiritual BS or made up bible stories to tell me what to do.
Get down off your high horse. Most of the liberals you look down your nose at are hard working Americans who are willing to pay more in taxes to make sure their neighbor has health care. You thump your chest like Tarzan for giving to some charity that probably pays their administrators 6 figures. There are some really crappy people on this board. I won’t be back.

Oh no! Please, don't go! What will anyone do without you...

 

[BigMODog]

I have a disabled niece I have given thousands of dollars of assistance to over the years. I set up 529 accounts for all my other nieces and nephews and contribute to those.
None of this will show up on a tax return as “charitable” giving. I try to help take care of my own. Even though they aren’t really my own. I didn’t need a religion or spiritual BS or made up bible stories to tell me what to do.
Get down off your high horse. Most of the liberals you look down your nose at are hard working Americans who are willing to pay more in taxes to make sure their neighbor has health care. You thump your chest like Tarzan for giving to some charity that probably pays their administrators 6 figures. There are some really crappy people on this board. I won’t be back.

I agree with this-Charity begins at home. I agree hard work gives a man a purpose and gives meaning to life.
I agree you don't need to advertise religious faith or acknowledge it or claim that God exists. The important thing is to acknowledge he exists through your actions.
This is proof that atheists may say they don't believe, but their actions say God exists, and it doesn't matter what they say about their belief in God, God is here no matter what.
Faith (hope) gets me through the hard times. I realize the story of the bible is in part a story of the individual voluntarily and nobly taking upon himself the tragic burdens of life and moving forward.
This can get you through recessions, suffering, loss of health, money, and the death of a loved one. No amount of money or Government or man-made rule can be a substitute for this. With this, you can endure anything.

 

[Veerman_12]

I agree with this-Charity begins at home. I agree hard work gives a man a purpose and gives meaning to life.
I agree you don't need to advertise religious faith or acknowledge it or claim that God exists. The important thing is to acknowledge he exists through your actions.
This is proof that atheists may say they don't believe, but their actions say God exists, and it doesn't matter what they say about their belief in God, God is here no matter what.
Faith (hope) gets me through the hard times. I realize the story of the bible is in part a story of the individual voluntarily and nobly taking upon himself the tragic burdens of life and moving forward.
This can get you through recessions, suffering, loss of health, money, and the death of a loved one. No amount of money or Government or man-made rule can be a substitute for this. With this, you can endure anything.

Notice no one brought up religion except Mitch in order to slam it.

I never said my giving or helping was religiously motivated, but he decided to bring it up and refer to it as "made up Bible stories". Completely disrespectful.

 

[SadButTrue]

reported for obscenity

Reported for being one too.
Who are you veerman's lawyer? I thought trump had all the lawyers already hired. Mind your business fool.

 

[Veerman_12]

reported for obscenity

No need to report him, just ignore him. It's made my experience on here MUCH better.

 

[BigMODog]

Notice no one brought up religion except Mitch in order to slam it.

I never said my giving or helping was religiously motivated, but he decided to bring it up and refer to it as "made up Bible stories". Completely disrespectful.

Yes. He can't have a reasonable debate.

 

[BigMODog]

You wouldn’t even be having to worry about any of this if the republican senate would just throw Trump out. Pence or any other republican could have maintained Obama’s economy and been re-elected by simply not being a vile conman jerk. He didn’t clean the swamp. He put foxes in charge of the henhouse. Republicans had a perfect chance to have an easy 2 term president and instead put a dik in charge.

Democrats loved battling against typical Republicans like the Bush family, McCain, or Romney because while they all fight with Marquess of Queensberry rules, the media and Dems were like Mike Tyson biting ears off. Now that Trump uses their same fighting style somehow he is the one that "plays from the gutter."

 

[have an idea]

Reported for being one too.
Who are you veerman's lawyer? I thought trump had all the lawyers already hired. Mind your business fool.

you are so easy to trigger. Bahahahahaha

 

[BigMODog]

you are so easy to trigger. Bahahahahaha

I thought there would be a democratic socialist on this board. Since that is what the Democrat party is claiming. No Bernie supporters. I guess this is good.

 

[millerbleach]

There are some really crappy people on this board. I won’t be back.

If only it were true there would be one less "crappy people".

 

[millerbleach]

Democrats loved battling against typical Republicans like the Bush family, McCain, or Romney because while they all fight with Marquess of Queensberry rules, the media and Dems were like Mike Tyson biting ears off. Now that Trump uses their same fighting style somehow he is the one that "plays from the gutter."

This is the real issue.
Dems are used to steamrolling any Pub they need to.

 

[BigMODog]

This is the real issue.
Dems are used to steamrolling any Pub they need to.

The left infiltrates conservative organizations in the form of donations to shut them up.
No country which has become socialist has escaped dire economic consequences nor the loss of human freedom. This is no strange coincidence, but inherent to the nature of socialism. You can’t have freedom, prosperity, and socialism at the same time because of the nature of socialism, not because all socialists so far turned out to be bad people.

Some Socialist value freedom and individuality, but mistakenly think socialism will make them freer. Some well-known conservatives used to be a socialist for exactly that reason but realized that capitalism is a cornerstone of a free society. To some extent, we on the Right who favor capitalism have neglected to communicate the vision of a free society. At the same time, both the Left and the Right have come to embrace the old Marxist ideas that “everything is political” and that all human interaction is basically zero-sum, pitting one group against another. But while politics is zero-sum most of the time, the free market is a positive-sum.

The right squandered control of the house, senate, and the Presidency. They had it all, and they did nothing. It may never happen again in our children's lifetime. They didn't get the healthcare plan Trump wanted, they didn't return more rights to the states.

I applaud the left for emboldening what's left of conservativism by impeaching the president. Conservatism now is anti-left. There is no middle ground. The classical liberals of Free Speech and Individual Rights, Electoral College, Religious Freedom, all under attack. Resist them or be crushed. Infanticide or Trump. Gun confiscation or Trump. Shut up and obey or Trump. Communism(Central Planning) or Trump, Individual Freedom or Trump, Secularity or Trump. The end of a free society or Trump. Not only do they want conservatives to capitulate they want us to celebrate them. The list goes on and on.

 

[3Rfan]

The left infiltrates conservative organizations in the form of donations to shut them up.
No country which has become socialist has escaped dire economic consequences nor the loss of human freedom. This is no strange coincidence, but inherent to the nature of socialism. You can’t have freedom, prosperity, and socialism at the same time because of the nature of socialism, not because all socialists so far turned out to be bad people.

Some Socialist value freedom and individuality, but mistakenly think socialism will make them freer. Some well-known conservatives used to be a socialist for exactly that reason but realized that capitalism is a cornerstone of a free society. To some extent, we on the Right who favor capitalism have neglected to communicate the vision of a free society. At the same time, both the Left and the Right have come to embrace the old Marxist ideas that “everything is political” and that all human interaction is basically zero-sum, pitting one group against another. But while politics is zero-sum most of the time, the free market is a positive-sum.

The right squandered control of the house, senate, and the Presidency. They had it all, and they did nothing. It may never happen again in our children's lifetime. They didn't get the healthcare plan Trump wanted, they didn't return more rights to the states.

I applaud the left for emboldening what's left of conservativism by impeaching the president. Conservatism now is anti-left. There is no middle ground. The classical liberals of Free Speech and Individual Rights, Electoral College, Religious Freedom, all under attack. Resist them or be crushed. Infanticide or Trump. Gun confiscation or Trump. Shut up and obey or Trump. Communism(Central Planning) or Trump, Individual Freedom or Trump, Secularity or Trump. The end of a free society or Trump. Not only do they want conservatives to capitulate they want us to celebrate them. The list goes on and on.

You didn't give credit to right wing nut job that actually wrote that.

 

[BigMODog]

You didn't give credit to right wing nut job that actually wrote that.

I'm glad I can inform you. Which parts did you not hear on MSNBC?
Right-wing=
Preserve the Bill of Rights
Reject abolishment of 1st, 2nd Amendments and the EC
Reject Infanticide
Screw Central Planning
There's more but who cares.

 

[3Rfan]

I'm glad I can inform you. Which parts did you not hear on MSNBC?
Right-wing=
Preserve the Bill of Rights
Reject abolishment of 1st, 2nd Amendments and the EC
Reject Infanticide
Screw Central Planning
There's more but who cares.

When Duck posts stuff like that on the left side at least he gives credit to the person that actually wrote it. I have heard of NO ONE that wants to abolish the 2nd amendment. There is difference of opinion on exactly what it says but that argument will never be resolved.

 

[BigMODog]

When Duck posts stuff like that on the left side at least he gives credit to the person that actually wrote it. I have heard of NO ONE that wants to abolish the 2nd amendment. There is difference of opinion on exactly what it says but that argument will never be resolved.

Man, I can't help you.
Look up Ralph "blackface" in Virginia. He's gearing up the 2A test pilot program to disarm citizens. Oh God, the info is everywhere except the MSM! You literally don't know what's going on yet you comment every evening.

 

[millerbleach]

Man, I can't help you.
Look up Ralph "blackface" in Virginia. He's gearing up the 2A test pilot program to disarm citizens. Oh God, the info is everywhere except the MSM! You literally don't know what's going on yet you comment every evening.

He knows what he's been told and blindly follows it. He then acts like the truth is not accurate.

 

[Veerman_12]

Man, I can't help you.
Look up Ralph "blackface" in Virginia. He's gearing up the 2A test pilot program to disarm citizens. Oh God, the info is everywhere except the MSM! You literally don't know what's going on yet you comment every evening.

Let me guess...3R?

 

[3Rfan]

He knows what he's been told and blindly follows it. He then acts like the truth is not accurate.

I guess you think the NYT story about ALL of Trump's top security advisers telling him how bad an idea it would be to withhold the money from Ukraine is just made up since neither you nor I have first hand knowledge of it?

 

[3Rfan]

Man, I can't help you.
Look up Ralph "blackface" in Virginia. He's gearing up the 2A test pilot program to disarm citizens. Oh God, the info is everywhere except the MSM! You literally don't know what's going on yet you comment every evening.

So I reckon none of you folks saw the report on CNN about the church shooter being taken down by a church member with a gun? Seems to me they did cover that and told just like it happened, they even showed the video of it. Too bad they never cover anything that doesn't fit a far left, 2nd amendment killing group of people's narrative.

 

[BigMODog]

So I reckon none of you folks saw the report on CNN about the church shooter being taken down by a church member with a gun? Seems to me they did cover that and told just like it happened, they even showed the video of it. Too bad they never cover anything that doesn't fit a far left, 2nd amendment killing group of people's narrative.

Ralphie in Virginia still says you are wrong about your previous post. He wants to disarm law-abiding citizens. Has set money aside to make arrests, has threatened police officers with removal if they don't comply, will not honor sanctuary gun counties, has threatened to bring in the National Guard to disarm people. HAS CNN COVERED THIS? Big fat no!

Too little too late for CNN. They now know reasonable people no longer believe them. Jake "the fake" Tapper has a long way to go. Does fake CNN cover the CDC (Obamas post-Sandy Hook Study) report on defensive gun statistics? BIG FAT NO.

 

[3Rfan]

Ralphie in Virginia still says you are wrong about your previous post. He wants to disarm law-abiding citizens. Has set money aside to make arrests, has threatened police officers with removal if they don't comply, will not honor sanctuary gun counties, has threatened to bring in the National Guard to disarm people. HAS CNN COVERED THIS? Big fat no!

Too little too late for CNN. They now know reasonable people no longer believe them. Jake "the fake" Tapper has a long way to go. Does fake CNN cover the CDC (Obamas post-Sandy Hook Study) report on defensive gun statistics? BIG FAT NO.

Does this Ralphie in Virginia have any power to do such a thing. What law has passed to allow it?

 

[BigMODog]

Does this Ralphie in Virginia have any power to do such a thing. What law has passed to allow it?

Yup. Blue control. You are not good at politics.

 

[3Rfan]

Yup. Blue control. You are not good at politics.

I haven't heard of such thing on ANY network anywhere.

 

[millerbleach]

I guess you think the NYT story about ALL of Trump's top security advisers telling him how bad an idea it would be to withhold the money from Ukraine is just made up since neither you nor I have first hand knowledge of it?

Since they ALL think that , why are there no names? You'll buy anything they tell you.

 

[millerbleach]

So I reckon none of you folks saw the report on CNN about the church shooter being taken down by a church member with a gun? Seems to me they did cover that and told just like it happened, they even showed the video of it. Too bad they never cover anything that doesn't fit a far left, 2nd amendment killing group of people's narrative.

How did you see that? I thought you said you don't watch CNN. I guess there are about 10,000 who do so you might as well.

 

[3Rfan]

How did you see that? I thought you said you don't watch CNN. I guess there are about 10,000 who do so you might as well.

I have NEVER said I don't watch CNN, I have sad that's not all I watch.

 

[3Rfan]

Since they ALL think that , why are there no names? You'll buy anything they tell you.

You can't really believe the people working in this WH want their name mentioned when they tell reporters stuff like this. If you truly think these newspapers all print this stuff without knowing who said it and what they said is true their is no help for you, you are a dyed in the wool Trumpster!

 

[millerbleach]

All I do is discard ANYTHING anonymous. If you don't, ANYTHING can be said.

 

[SadButTrue]

All I do is discard ANYTHING anonymous. If you don't, ANYTHING can be said.

YOU IDIOT EVERYTHING ON THIS FORUM IS ANONYMOUS. STOP RESPONDING TO ANONYMOUS POSTS.

 

[BigMODog]

YOU IDIOT EVERYTHING ON THIS FORUM IS ANONYMOUS. STOP RESPONDING TO ANONYMOUS POSTS.

nonsequitur bruh
He was talking about anonymous comments made in the media. The entire world knows to double-check information, use several points of view, then make your best guess.
The confirmed fakes or misleading headlines are predominantly on the left. There are plenty of biases to be found on both sides, but the big important whoppers are on the left. Russia Hoax, impeachment sham, quid pro joke, Kavanaugh, gun control, first amendment, religious liberty, abortion, attacks on Trump voters and FAt DoNnies character flaws.

 

[have an idea]

YOU IDIOT EVERYTHING ON THIS FORUM IS ANONYMOUS. STOP RESPONDING TO ANONYMOUS POSTS.

triggered again. Name-Calling, all caps. Bahahahahaha