When a player gets ejected in a high school basketball game does he/she have to leave the court or can they stay on the bench? Also, if a referee clearly signals for the ejection do they have to write it up as such or do they have the option of changing their mind?
Ejection Rules
- Thread starter Sweeptrap
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Interesting... so this particular referee didn't make the player go to the locker room, even though he signaled for the ejection, and now, he can even be less accountable by not writing it up and letting the kid play in his next contest... not teaching anyone a very good lesson if you ask me.
I stand corrected. It is up to an official whether or not the player has to leave the bench. I'm not sure why an official would allow the player to sit on the bench after being ejected. I think an official is putting him/herself in a bad position if the player is allowed to be on the bench after being ejected.
All technical fouls and ejections should be reported to MSHSAA. That's not always the case though.
All technical fouls and ejections should be reported to MSHSAA. That's not always the case though.
The fan should be reported as well. School administrators need to take responsibility for their fans' action. Administrators tolerate too much these days, and unfortunately, it's going to take an official to get hurt for something to change.
Interesting.... and if he was ejected, he should be out for the next game as well, assuming there is a next game.
It must have happened in multiple games because the game I was at definitely warranted an ejection, and that's what the referee signaled. And disagree with my opinion if you want, but the fact of the matter is, the player was ejected, and when I player is ejected in the state of Missouri, they don't play the next game.
If the ejection was warranted, why would there be any doubt that the official would write it up? Ejection was not deserved but that makes no difference. Mshsaa rules state that player is out for next game. For the record the fan who got tossed ( rightfully so ) is not from Hamilton.
The only reason I said he wouldn't write it up was he didn't make him leave the bench, I thought that was strange. I wasn't sure where the fan was from, but was most definitely out of line. However you look at it, it was a quality game between two quality programs that unfortunately turned sour in the fourth.
Man oh man but multiple film angles show differently. Even if, an if, an elbow to the head was made, that is flagrant and a technical at most. No such thing as a flagrant one or two in high school. On multiple levels, the call was the wrong one. Shouldn't take a 3 minute conference to decide whether a kid is sent packing.
You are correct that the ref is the authority on the floor. Most difficult part to understand is why it took all 3 "authorities" meeting for 3 minutes to determine if it was flagrant. If there was a shot to the head area it is an easy call and shouldn't take long to figure out. I have watched the film several times and can guarantee you 2 things: 1 there was no contact near the head and 2 if these authorities saw the film they wouldn't even think about calling a flagrant. Bottom line is a kid has to sit next game on a call the ref wasn't sure of. These guys aren't bad refs, they just blew this call big time.
I'm not familiar with the refs or the player. I'm curious if the refs have worked Hamilton games before and if the kid had a reputation that proceeded him in this situation that led to the call. I'm not saying that's what happened, just a thought.
Good kid. No negative history with any officials throughout his career.
I have watched the video several times. Mid Buch coach was a good 10 to 12 feet on the court during the 3 minute conference. He had one foot on the court most of the game and was several feet out on the court at times. One time Hamilton player and Mid Buch player both ran into him while he was on the floor during play. All Three fell to the ground. Cant understand how that's not a T. He was given a time out......After he was given a T for foot stomping later, he continued to stand and be on the floor. On the play of the ejection, Hamilton player came down with the rebound, Mid Buch player was all over him in his face, he moved his arms from side to side to clear out but no contact was made. Hard to call that a foul without contact, Techical maybe at best. Ejection, no way. There is plenty of history with one of the officials and the Mid Buch coach..... Good luck Hornets and congrats to Mid Buch on a fine season.
If I was an official, there would be history between me and the Mid Buch coach, too.
I wasn't there and have no opinion on what happened. If the player elbows were moving excessively and the officials feel that he was purposely attempting to strike another player they could have ruled a flagrant technical which comes with disqualification. They also may have thought there was contact. In that case an excessively swung elbow with contact above the shoulders can be ruled a flagrant intentional foul which also results in disqualification.
If there was contact during a live ball then a technical is not an option. The play could be called an intentional foul or a flagrant foul. If there was no contact than a technical foul or flagrant technical foul would be an option if the officials feel that the player was attempting to elbow an opponent.
No contact was made and the player was not attempting to elbow an opponent. Tie ball for a jump ball, player was hugged in the process of jump ball, both players wrestling for the ball, whistle was late, Penney player comes free and as you see it multiple times a game when resistance is not applied to force anymore, the arms are let loose. Technical foul at most, but that is my opinion. Officials let the emotions of the game get to them. Anyone in that gym on Saturday would be able to say that.
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