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Dropping like flies

I'm sure you and others on here think the pubs haven't gone off the rails to the right.
They have become big spenders (like Dems), they want pre-existing conditions covered and allow 26 yr old adults to be on mommys plan, and many are very squeemish on illegals. Boy, they have just jumped right! You repeat whatever your talking heads say without even questioning it. Cite some examples of Pubs being farther right than they used to be.
 
They have become big spenders (like Dems), they want pre-existing conditions covered and allow 26 yr old adults to be on mommys plan, and many are very squeemish on illegals. Boy, they have just jumped right! You repeat whatever your talking heads say without even questioning it. Cite some examples of Pubs being farther right than they used to be.
Maybe they're just farther Trump cause they sure don't carer about the deficit or debt, if they ever did. They do ANYTHING he wants because for some reason they're scared to death of him.
 
Maybe they're just farther Trump cause they sure don't carer about the deficit or debt, if they ever did. They do ANYTHING he wants because for some reason they're scared to death of him.

The pubs only talk about deficit or debt when the Dem's are driving it up, however that is no different than the Dem's they only care about it when the pubs are driving it up. I don't remember seeing andy Dem's calling out Obama when he was adding to the deficit and or debt. Neither party can claim any high ground when it comes to certain things, it only bothers them when the other party is in charge.
 
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That is an opinion not an example.
You are an absolute joke. The firing of Comey, Sessions, and Tillerson the hiring of Barr, and Pompeo. The firings of all of the people who testified in the Ukraine scandal. Barr's joke of an explanation of the Mueller investigation. The rest of the Republicans repeating it. They turning of heads to the Russian influence in everything because Trump has a business or wants businesses in Russia. The love shown to Kim Jong Un. When did Tariffs become a Republican thing? How about bailouts for the farmers? Trump hasn't fundamentally changed the Republican party.
 
Who's she going to throw her support behind?
It will be interesting. Personally, the only way Bernie wins the nomination is to get her to endorse him. How he does that? I think the only way Warren would endorse Bernie is if he offered her the VP position with him.

If he does not, she will back Biden IMO.
 
It will be interesting. Personally, the only way Bernie wins the nomination is to get her to endorse him. How he does that? I think the only way Warren would endorse Bernie is if he offered her the VP position with him.

If he does not, she will back Biden IMO.
Bernie has to offer her the VP. Biden needs to offer a cabinet post.
 
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DNC wants Biden and have all along. Neither gets a majority on the first vote at convention. The machine throws all the super delegates to Biden in second vote to put him over the top.
Super delegates - what a sham!!
 
If you guys don't think these conversations take place EVERY primary season you know NOTHING!! I've been telling you for a long time the dem party in general is NOT far left and they don't want some wacko left wing dude, or woman, to run against Trump.
Still want to assert that the Dem party is not far left?
 
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They are as indicative of the democratic party as David Duke is of the republicans.
 
You are an absolute joke. The firing of Comey, Sessions, and Tillerson the hiring of Barr, and Pompeo. The firings of all of the people who testified in the Ukraine scandal.

You are claiming a President wanting loyal people around him is wrong!
 
They turning of heads to the Russian influence in everything because Trump has a business or wants businesses in Russia. The love shown to Kim Jong Un. When did Tariffs become a Republican thing? How about bailouts for the farmers? Trump hasn't fundamentally changed the Republican party.
Not following how these are "Trump being about Trump".

Yes, Trump does a LOT of not Republican things. Why is that bad? I don't like everything Trump does but there are things Trump does that "moderates" should applaud.
 
You are claiming a President wanting loyal people around him is wrong!
Some of that had to happen, to be sure, but we should want our leaders to want people who are loyal to the country. They take an oath of office to the Constitution, not to the President for a reason. The head of the FBI, the Attorney General, etc, they serve the American people, not the President. It's a grave thing for them to place loyalty to a President above loyalty to the rule of law.

It's fundamentally different when we talk about something like a Senator...the President can and probably should advocate for people who support their political beliefs.
 
They are as indicative of the democratic party as David Duke is of the republicans.
Duke is a Democrat. He says Democrats are easier to flip at race/class warfare time. Bernie is indicative of the Democrat party. He has been a commie since the 50's.
 
You are an absolute joke. The firing of Comey, Sessions, and Tillerson the hiring of Barr, and Pompeo. The firings of all of the people who testified in the Ukraine scandal. Barr's joke of an explanation of the Mueller investigation. The rest of the Republicans repeating it. They turning of heads to the Russian influence in everything because Trump has a business or wants businesses in Russia. The love shown to Kim Jong Un. When did Tariffs become a Republican thing? How about bailouts for the farmers? Trump hasn't fundamentally changed the Republican party.

  • The firing of Comey Sessions Awesome
  • Hiring Bar Pompeo Awesome
  • Firing Bureaucrats over Ukraine Awesome
  • Barrs explanation of Russia Hoax Awesome
  • Kim Jung Un attempted nuclear disarmament Awesome
  • Farmer Bailout Socialism that feeds the hungry Awesome
  • Smacking around radical Democrats Awesome
 
  • The firing of Comey Sessions Awesome
  • Hiring Bar Pompeo Awesome
  • Firing Bureaucrats over Ukraine Awesome
  • Barrs explanation of Russia Hoax Awesome
  • Kim Jung Un attempted nuclear disarmament Awesome
  • Farmer Bailout Socialism that feeds the hungry Awesome
  • Smacking around radical Democrats Awesome
Ukraine was a hoax, and it wasnt impeachable. Extra Awesome.
 
  • The firing of Comey Sessions Awesome
  • Hiring Bar Pompeo Awesome
  • Firing Bureaucrats over Ukraine Awesome
  • Barrs explanation of Russia Hoax Awesome
  • Kim Jung Un attempted nuclear disarmament Awesome
  • Farmer Bailout Socialism that feeds the hungry Awesome
  • Smacking around radical Democrats Awesome
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Ukraine was a hoax, and it wasnt impeachable. Extra Awesome.

Trolling is
defined as creating discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory or off-topic messages in an online community. Basically, a social media troll is someone who purposely says something controversial in order to get a rise out of other users.
 
Ukraine was a hoax, and it wasnt impeachable. Extra Awesome.
Ukraine was not a hoax. You can argue that it wasn't impeachable. To a point, I agree that it did not rise to the level of being impeachable. The abuse of power that followed it was impeachable. To call it a hoax is misleading. He did make the call and he did ask for a favor and he did hold up the payment to Ukraine. Those were not hoaxes.
 
Ukraine was not a hoax. You can argue that it wasn't impeachable. To a point, I agree that it did not rise to the level of being impeachable. The abuse of power that followed it was impeachable. To call it a hoax is misleading. He did make the call and he did ask for a favor and he did hold up the payment to Ukraine. Those were not hoaxes.
Is executive privilege a thing or not?
 
Duke is a Democrat. He says Democrats are easier to flip at race/class warfare time. Bernie is indicative of the Democrat party. He has been a commie since the 50's.
Duke is not a Democrat. It's been all of four years since he ran for Senate as a Republican!
 
Article 2 does not let him do "whatever I want." He can not use executive privilege to cover up a crime. According to the ultra-liberal Heritage Foundation.
https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/commentary/executive-privilege-cant-shield-wrongdoing

It does not cover decision-making regarding the implementation of laws that delegate policymaking authority to the heads of departments and agencies, or which allow presidential delegations of
authority.

The Presidential Communications Privilege Is Constitutionally Based, but Qualified, and May Be Overcome by a Substantial Showing of Need and Unavailability


A Presidential Claim of Privilege Cannot Provide Absolute Immunity to Congressional Subpoenas

The executive argued to the district court that present and past senior advisers to the president are absolutely immune from compelled congressional process. The district court unequivocally rejected this position:

The Executive cannot identify a single judicial opinion that recognizes absolute immunity for senior presidential advisors in this or any other context …. In fact, there is Supreme Court authority that is all but conclusive on this question and that powerfully suggests that such advisors do not enjoy absolute immunity. The Court therefore rejects the Executive’s claim of absolute immunity for senior presidential aides.35


https://www.pogo.org/report/2019/05/the-limits-of-executive-privilege/
 
I said you could argue it wasn't impeachable. That is up to congress and we as the voters that send them to Washington to decide if every crime is impeachable, and what is or is not a level of criminality. It is pretty clear he broke the law.
Unless you are telling us he didn't withhold the funding to Ukraine. He did it and without consent of congress and that is very clearly against the law.
 
And you agreed that it didn’t rise to the level of impeachment.
To a point. That was not a crime I would consider disqualifying. However, the cover-up after the fact was an abuse of power that was most definitely disqualifying.
 
And more evidence may have shown more that it was disqualifying. He still broke the law and you can't argue he didn't.
 
To a point. That was not a crime I would consider disqualifying. However, the cover-up after the fact was an abuse of power that was most definitely disqualifying.
Understandable. But whether you like it or not, executive privilege kicks in at certain points. You have no idea what those guys knew and could/couldn’t say. There’s sensitive information that if exposed, could do harm to the country. I know it looks bad on it’s surface but the guy has a right to it.
 
Executive privilege is not all-encompassing, and most of that investigation should have been behind closed doors anyway.
 
Why don't women brag about having children? I'm not saying that women can't do men things but dam, having a kid, naturally feeding and raising a baby is an actual superpower.
My wife is awesome, thank God she didn't believe in this BS. She works in corporate world too. 4 kids. She's wonderwoman and there are plenty out there just like her.
 
They actually went way to the right back in the Tea Party days. Those folks had the old guard pubs about a scared as Trump has them now.
That isn't when you were referring to though.
I would agree we moved back right at that time but only to a traditional Conservative point. Overall, the country as a whole including Republicans have moved left.
 
It is pretty clear he broke the law. Unless you are telling us he didn't withhold the funding to Ukraine. He did it and without consent of congress and that is very clearly against the law.

I guess i'd like to see the LAW that says the POTUS can't withhold funds from another country to fulfill a requirement IN THE FUNDING BILL.
 
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