Doniphan cancels season

[tazmanj]

You quit on a bunch of young men. As a leader you're expected to model proper behaviors. Quitting when things get difficult isn't the way.

Again, you need to know the whole story before you make assumptions. But you have the right to state your opinion and i respect that.

 

[J. Kane]

Again, you need to know the whole story before you make assumptions. But you have the right to state your opinion and i respect that.

 

[Stagolee]

That’s a great question and I respect that. Look at where they were before my staff got there, what happened when we were there, and what’s happened since. The quick turnaround and the way those teams played was what is more important and we won district championships in 2 years. Yes great athletes are in St. Louis and I was blessed, but those athletes where there before my staff got there and we worked our butts off to help them learn how to work and win as a team eliminating the bad habits that may have been the reason they had trouble turning the corner. Culture changing is the key, not saying I’m a guru and trust me I am not a person who gloats, but it is what it is and I was blessed to have great coaches around me to help me make the transitions smooth. That’s the key, surround yourself with great minds, great men who love kids and what they do and anything can happen. It was not all me in any of my head coaching stops, Even at Windsor when I got my first head coaching job, we taught kids how to love eachother, play hard for eachother and want better for themselves and their future. I don’t want to get on here and argue with grown men who should know better than to bash other people for simply doing something they are passionate about. Win, lose or draw all these coaches want to do is help young men reach their potential and teach them how to become better men and create a work ethic to help them no matter what they do after graduation. So to degrade, belittle, or bash men on here who do what they have been called to do, seems a little harsh when you don’t know peoples whole story. This should be a place where you talk about football, celebrate coaches accomplishments, talk about the great games that go on around the state or even just football related news with the correct information and not speculation.

 

[Stryk3]

You quit on a bunch of young men. As a leader you're expected to model proper behaviors. Quitting when things get difficult isn't the way.

Well if there are things within the school or admin or who knows what, standing up for your beliefs is being a leader. Sometimes you can't control situations, and sometimes as a leader you have to make a difficult decision to part ways.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Well if there are things within the school or admin or who knows what, standing up for your beliefs is being a leader. Sometimes you can't control situations, and sometimes as a leader you have to make a difficult decision to part ways.

Seems like you and tazman are on the same page a lot.

 

[Stryk3]

Seems like you and tazman are on the same page a lot.

don't know his history. Just know you are typical yard bird piling on someone.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

don't know his history. Just know you are typical yard bird piling on someone.

It was never a good fit from the start. Bailey's personality wasn't going to mesh with the ones at JC. The administration and the school system as a whole is a dumpster fire and has been for a good 10-15 years now, and only getting worse. The town is going downhill as well, and only getting worse. Bailey was never going to put up with the BS. I'm not going to talk about all the issues with the school, it would take way too long of a post to do it.

A lot of people from the outside think JC is some magical place and it's not. Sure back in the day it was an awesome district but it slowly starting declining around 2000. Coaching has nothing to do to with it, and I mean nothing to do with it. I've said this for several years on this board and in the area.

Until they change the leadership in that school district, and I mean start by gutting the administration, nothing will start to change. Any football coach in their right mind, or not so arrogant should not take this job. The future doesn't look bright, obviously there are a lot of issues with the school district, but there is a not whole lot of talent coming up either. Regardless of what the old Jaybirds of the glory days clinging on to any last hope say, don't be a fool and take that job.
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You must have inside knowledge of the school. Let me see...when things don’t work out you blame admin, that’s the typical answer. Bottom line is when things aren’t going well for a coach who has had success, the easy thing to do is blame someone else. Does JC have its challenges and issues? Sure like any school. What JC does offer from a football standpoint...best facilities in the state ✅, resources and funds✅ Ability to attract quality asst coaches ✅ athletes ✅

What most coaches that have come in recently, don’t get the support from the outside entities. The small loud group of folks that live in the past and are more worried about the good Ol days. They yell the loudest and for some reason have had a voice. Maybe that is lack of admin leadership. Only thing that’s going to fix it is patience, time and ability for a coach to come in and establish a culture from youth level on up. No admin is stopping anyone from that. Class 6 football and at JC is just different. Unless people are willing to give time it’s going to be merry go round for years. It can and will be a great job for someone who is going to stay and invest. Bailey was not the long term fix, no matter how much success he’s had. He did the best he could in a short amount of time.


((Seems like he just needed more time at doniphan but he quit. Bet if he was 7-0 he would be there still))

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

That’s a great question and I respect that. Look at where they were before my staff got there, what happened when we were there, and what’s happened since. The quick turnaround and the way those teams played was what is more important and we won district championships in 2 years. Yes great athletes are in St. Louis and I was blessed, but those athletes where there before my staff got there and we worked our butts off to help them learn how to work and win as a team eliminating the bad habits that may have been the reason they had trouble turning the corner. Culture changing is the key, not saying I’m a guru and trust me I am not a person who gloats, but it is what it is and I was blessed to have great coaches around me to help me make the transitions smooth. That’s the key, surround yourself with great minds, great men who love kids and what they do and anything can happen. It was not all me in any of my head coaching stops, Even at Windsor when I got my first head coaching job, we taught kids how to love eachother, play hard for eachother and want better for themselves and their future. I don’t want to get on here and argue with grown men who should know better than to bash other people for simply doing something they are passionate about. Win, lose or draw all these coaches want to do is help young men reach their potential and teach them how to become better men and create a work ethic to help them no matter what they do after graduation. So to degrade, belittle, or bash men on here who do what they have been called to do, seems a little harsh when you don’t know peoples whole story. This should be a place where you talk about football, celebrate coaches accomplishments, talk about the great games that go on around the state or even just football related news with the correct information and not speculation.

AT U City, 2 years before you they played for the district championships. LS was about the same winning % as yours. Macon had some pretty good years with Coach Class. I think you have the right intentions, but it just looks bad in the over all picture the last few stops that you have had is all.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Again, you need to know the whole story before you make assumptions. But you have the right to state your opinion and i respect that.

wait wait wait..

I just read he kept his teaching job but quit coaching ?
Racism only happens after school???

 

[Stryk3]

You must have inside knowledge of the school. Let me see...when things don’t work out you blame admin, that’s the typical answer. Bottom line is when things aren’t going well for a coach who has had success, the easy thing to do is blame someone else. Does JC have its challenges and issues? Sure like any school. What JC does offer from a football standpoint...best facilities in the state ✅, resources and funds✅ Ability to attract quality asst coaches ✅ athletes ✅

What most coaches that have come in recently, don’t get the support from the outside entities. The small loud group of folks that live in the past and are more worried about the good Ol days. They yell the loudest and for some reason have had a voice. Maybe that is lack of admin leadership. Only thing that’s going to fix it is patience, time and ability for a coach to come in and establish a culture from youth level on up. No admin is stopping anyone from that. Class 6 football and at JC is just different. Unless people are willing to give time it’s going to be merry go round for years. It can and will be a great job for someone who is going to stay and invest. Bailey was not the long term fix, no matter how much success he’s had. He did the best he could in a short amount of time.


((Seems like he just needed more time at doniphan but he quit. Bet if he was 7-0 he would be there still))

Every Educator will take on challenges in a different way. I don't have any inside information on Doniphan, other than reading a clipping on transpired events. Quitting in middle of season will be judged right or wrong. Coaching sure has its challenges as do teaching responsibilities. Yes you are correct it is easy to blame Admin or other entities on causation of lack of success. I am glad you have coached and taught in a utopian school.

 

[tazmanj]

wait wait wait..

I just read he kept his teaching job but quit coaching ?
Racism only happens after school???

That is false just FYI

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Every Educator will take on challenges in a different way. I don't have any inside information on Doniphan, other than reading a clipping on transpired events. Quitting in middle of season will be judged right or wrong. Coaching sure has its challenges as do teaching responsibilities. Yes you are correct it is easy to blame Admin or other entities on causation of lack of success. I am glad you have coached and taught in a utopian school.

I've taught and coached in some of the 'worst' schools. The worst in KCMO. I was the minority

 

[Veer2Eternity]

That is false just FYI

“Coach Jameson Allen has stepped down as the head football coach at Doniphan but continues his teaching responsibilities at the high school. It has been reported Coach Allen made his decision to step down as head coach due to “racial incidents” at Doniphan. At the high school, there were three incidents reported where students used racial slurs toward each other. The students who used unacceptable words were addressed and appropriate discipline was administered. The district is unaware of any incident in which a student has used a racial slur towards any staff member. The Doniphan R-1 School District does not tolerate racism and is committed to providing a positive learning and working environment for all students and staff.”

 

[hangmanbobbyjaggers]

don't know his history. Just know you are typical yard bird piling on someone.

 

[Stryk3]

I've taught and coached in some of the 'worst' schools. The worst in KCMO. I was the minority

So you said schools...so plural...why not stay at 1 school and just grind away? KC has some of the best athletes in the state! I guess you didn't quit mid season, so you are different. I'm a fan of most coaches and what they go through and how difficult a job it is. Kudos for you taking on the tough jobs at the worst schools in KC though. I respect that and you for that.

 

[Stryk3]

Now this is good

 

[tazmanj]

AT U City, 2 years before you they played for the district championships. LS was about the same winning % as yours. Macon had some pretty good years with Coach Class. I think you have the right intentions, but it just looks bad in the over all picture the last few stops that you have had is all.

You are absolutely right. I didn’t say they couldn’t win, I’m saying the culture change and the style of football played plus the amazing staff we put together was how we made it work.

 

[J. Kane]

So you said schools...so plural...why not stay at 1 school and just grind away? KC has some of the best athletes in the state! I guess you didn't quit mid season, so you are different. I'm a fan of most coaches and what they go through and how difficult a job it is. Kudos for you taking on the tough jobs at the worst schools in KC though. I respect that and you for that.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

 

[PBMulesRule71]

“The Doniphan R-1 School District does not tolerate racism”

🤣

 

[Kurt_Warners_Blind_Son]

Never thought I’d see Harv Welch dethroned.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Never thought I’d see Harv Welch dethroned.

well you're blind so you haven't seen that.

 

[86THS]

Wow, I don't know how, but I hadn't seen this thread. That was interesting. all way around. I mean, I would never dreamt in a million years that's Bosko's actual picture! Takes a lot of guts to come strong like that. And based on his picture, Bosko has a lotta, ahem, guts!

 

[BoosterBosko]

Wow, I don't know how, but I hadn't seen this thread. That was interesting. all way around. I mean, I would never dreamt in a million years that's Bosko's actual picture! Takes a lot of guts to come strong like that. And based on his picture, Bosko has a lotta, ahem, guts!

Excuse me?? Please point out where on this thread my ACTUAL PICTURE is!!! Also, never dreamt in a million years?? Do you even MoSports!? My profile picture has been a picture OF ME since I joined the site back in 2016!!! NICE TRY BOZO!!!!

 

[Stag101]

This is comical. Doniphan actually deserves better.