Not good for the future when you can not field a team to finish the season.
District Forfeits
- Thread starter HBL Pirates fan_1990
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I think #1 would be a great option. Very similar to the old 4-team district setup, which was the best system Missouri has ever used. A decade of seeing 76-0 games in the first round of districts speaks for itself. We can fix it, or we can call everybody pansies for not wanting to get their brains beat in, often times by a team which has already done so earlier in the season.
Rarely do you have an 8 winning (it does happen) so why take the away from kids?
How much total time spent getting to and at convention? How much of that time was spent judging/competing/awards? It is about a 90/10 ratio.
Riverview Gardens over Clayton a few years ago.
I didn't believe you and double checked in 15-16, 5-4 clayton was the 1 seed and did lose to a winless Riverview Garden squad... Nice call I was not aware of this
They did not win, but I remember the LSW (1) vs RayPec (8) game i think it was the '17 season. 37-30 in 2 OT's.
The 8 seed in that district back then was about as good as half the C6 teams in the state. That old district was a meat grinder.
That the convention in Indianapolis? That town is almost hard to get a hotel room that weekend. FFA takes over the town
For real... That was the start of Clayton's decline to where they are now. They had a good, athletic senior class and really had it all set up to be their district to lose. I've no idea how it happened but Riverview somehow pulled out a victory and Clayton found a way to lose. That Clayton team even beat Lutheran North in week 1, which was Carl Reed's first year there.
I have heard that the reason we can't start school more than two weeks before labor day is due to the State Fair and Aggie lobbying.
When you have 3 schools combining to form an 8 man squad, losing a kid or two from any of the schools could pose a problem. Having 3 towns form a team (that hasn't won a game) doesn't seem like a good answer.
One thing I am certain of is that mshsaa will not make any changes that result is a potential reduction in revenue even if it's a superior system.
Personally I like the idea of a play in round kinda like what we have in class 5 this year with our 6 team districts. That meant winless Willard played 1 win neosho instead of 9-0 carthage. The end will eventually be the same but at least the first round games are more meaningful and the top teams just get to rest.
Our district may have been unusual since the bottom 3 teams only had 1 win between them.
I think that Bishop DuBourg was co-oping with Hancock. I guess that was a joint decision between the 2 schools
I knew of a coach that basically lost his job because of the conflict with ffa. It should be moved up to September then there would be a lot less conflicts. Always going to have conflicts. A good way to handle it would have coach and instructor plan who was needed and work around that. Hell, our governor moved back the start of school for the tourist attraction sites.
In defense of both Northland Christian and the Keytesville co-op, these are basically start-up programs. Northland co-oped with St. Joseph Christian last year for an 11-man program. Keytesville is a second-year program that jumped right into varsity football - no JH or JV buildup to a varsity program.
There are 276 schools from C1 to C5 (based on teams listed under district assignments). If you evenly distributed them among 6 classes, then there would be 46 teams per class and 5-6 teams per district. That way 1 and 2 seeds would get a first round bye (and some 3 seeds). The bottom seeds would not have to face a top seed in the first round.
It would still allow every team in the postseason and not have an arbitrary cut-off line (which happens with any rating system and/or human selection system).
This would put C6 into a new C7.
It would still allow every team in the postseason and not have an arbitrary cut-off line (which happens with any rating system and/or human selection system).
This would put C6 into a new C7.
In week 10 I think you go down to 32 teams, by cross-seeding districts. For example, #1 seed in distinct 1 would play #8 seed in district 2, #1 is district 2 plays #8 in district one. Repeat this until you get to the final 8. Then reseed, and play it out. That way super-stacked districts can advance multiple teams to the final 8.
If a coach has to argue with people about the FFA shit, it's a pretty good indication football is not going to be a priority. Time to move on.
they're was some blowouts with 3 vs 6 seeds and some 4 vs 5 seeds this past from and saturday
3 playoff system i think mshsaa should look at.
1. 4 or 5 win teams and you make it to the playoffs. 32 teams makes playoffs in class 1-5 and 8 4-team districts
2. Go 7 Classes and Classes 1-6 should be around 48 teams divided, and 8 6-team districts.
3. keep it the same but go to 16 4-team districts
3 playoff system i think mshsaa should look at.
1. 4 or 5 win teams and you make it to the playoffs. 32 teams makes playoffs in class 1-5 and 8 4-team districts
2. Go 7 Classes and Classes 1-6 should be around 48 teams divided, and 8 6-team districts.
3. keep it the same but go to 16 4-team districts
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And thats ok if a school puts their ffa chapter as a matter of more importance than their football team.
Absolutely. Beholden our rural overlords.
The people in those communities should not gripe when they can't get a decent football coach, though.
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Youre right. Is it the school that is griping or other schools and people? And the school should listen to the parents as a whole and not just a couple of parents. Im sure more of those kids are going to utilize those skills in ffa more so than their football skills in their life.
16 4-team districts is the way to go. Keeps teams more geographically, keeps more teams involved in winning a district championship, brings backs sectionals. All wins to help high school football in Missouri.
Am I wrong in assuming most these kids going the FFA way and causing teams to forfeit would lose that game anyway?
Oh not saying you arent wrong. But would look down and have a problem with say a 3 seed team that would do the same thing?
For me It really depends on the situation. They could be a strong 3 seed and it would bother me. They could be a weak 3 seed with no chance of winning districts and it would not bother me.
Also what has to be taken into consideration is what you will miss if you don’t go to the other activity.
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Yeah. I would have no problem a kid picking one event over the other. Even if #1 seed. Especially if its a another school association.
