Did You See This... C2 Father Tolton Regional Catholic at C3 Missouri Military Academy
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Bolivar was up 42-0 on Rogersville at the end of the FIRST QUARTER! The Libs could have scored 150 if they wanted to (as it was, the final score ended up being only 69-0...)
I can sincerely say that I have never seen Bolivar take it easier on Rogersville than I did in the second half of that game (evidently Tolton Catholic did not feel so compelled...)
...not that there's anything wrong with that, of course (right???
)
I can sincerely say that I have never seen Bolivar take it easier on Rogersville than I did in the second half of that game (evidently Tolton Catholic did not feel so compelled...)
...not that there's anything wrong with that, of course (right???
)
Bolivar was up 42-0 on Rogersville at the end of the FIRST QUARTER! The Libs could have scored 150 if they wanted to (as it was, the final score ended up being only 69-0...)
I can sincerely say that I have never seen Bolivar take it easier on Rogersville than I did in the second half of that game (evidently Tolton Catholic did not feel so compelled...)
...not that there's anything wrong with that, of course (right???
I believe if you can score, then keep scoring. It's your opponents job to stop you.
If they were in the CYFL, they would be kicked out for running the score up on people! That is sad. It was like 60-6 at the half.
JoeyNorthlandoKCMO
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The second half is a good time to bring in backups...if you have some class, that is.
At some point, you have to quit scoring! That's just a little bit out of control.. I know the Falcons could have beat some teams that bad in the past and never put that many points on the board!
I believe in sportsmanship. Running a score up 93 -13 doesn't qualify.
Running the score up makes no sense. Lets not forget all the young men out
there are student athletes and both teams should be respected. When I was a young assistant coach at Gainsville we where a new program , we where playing Salem they where very good, they where ahead 35 to 0 after 1 quarter their coach being a class act let us know they would not throw the ball and would run the ball between the tackles. They beat us 56 to 7 but it was done with great sportsmanship and respect
there are student athletes and both teams should be respected. When I was a young assistant coach at Gainsville we where a new program , we where playing Salem they where very good, they where ahead 35 to 0 after 1 quarter their coach being a class act let us know they would not throw the ball and would run the ball between the tackles. They beat us 56 to 7 but it was done with great sportsmanship and respect
Yes there might be young out there but it is there Coaches and there job to keep the opponent from scoring. Maybe we should stop keeping score so no one loses!
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Alternatively we could teach our kids how to display respect/sportsmanship.. or just how to show a little human decency . which will carry them a whole lot further in life than beating a lesser team by a ridiculous amount of points.
Bolivar was up 42-0 on Rogersville at the end of the FIRST QUARTER! The Libs could have scored 150 if they wanted to (as it was, the final score ended up being only 69-0...)
I can sincerely say that I have never seen Bolivar take it easier on Rogersville than I did in the second half of that game (evidently Tolton Catholic did not feel so compelled...)
...not that there's anything wrong with that, of course (right???
I guess those MMA players shouldn't make the Tolten coach mad..."Next score is on you!"
Subs played the whole 2nd half, no passes thrown in 2nd half. There were at least 3 defensive scores and two returns for TDs. Credit to MMA, their kids kept playing to the buzzer. Their QB is very athletic, tough kid!!!
Fair catch all kicks or punts and that eliminates the returns. Same on defense. Intercept the ball, run it out of bounds and do not score. Run the play clock down each play and let all the 9th graders play, not the JV kids. Guess what, it does not hurt to take a knee and turn the ball over on downs. Been in that situation and we have done all three to keep from scoring in the 60's on teams.
That seems more humiliating than just playing it out with vanilla runs and returns. Just my opinion though. Sometimes a bad deal is just a bad deal. Not sure one is any less humiliating than the other.
Guess what, I'm not arguing with you, I understand what you are saying. The 9th graders played a majority of the 2nd half. The score is what it is, no one got any enjoyment out of it. Our kids took their beatings the first two years of the program, wasn't easy for them either.
I have not read every post on this Thread yet but when it comes to a small school they don't have huge numbers and short of just telling a kid to fall on the ground when he gets the ball what can you do I think people Are blowing this way out of proportion!
As a player, this would have came off as you rubbing it in my face that I can't stop you unless you do it yourself. That's not sportsmanship, that's just an alternative route to show how dominate you are against me. I'd rather give up 200 and have a chance to get something good out of it, versus line up and take a knee and now the young kids don't even get to play.
Regardless of the score, playing the rest of the game, and playing it hard, is still beneficial to both teams. You still have to work on what you're trying to do. For most small schools, games are the only thing filmed, and in turn the only thing you can show players instead of just saying it. It gives them an opportunity to see themselves and what they're doing right or wrong.
Taking a knee and deliberately running out of bounds shows a lack of class in the fact that you are blatantly saying "no matter what I do, you can't stop me, but I don't want people to judge the score, so I'll stop myself while continuing to show you that you have no chance."
I say keep playing. Put the JV in, then the freshman. Use vanilla play calling and run the ball. If those back up units find a way to score, then good for them. (And the future of your football program)
I do not ever recall Tolton getting beat 93-13. We had our chances to do that too but found ways to keep it down. JV played in the 2nd quarter because we knew it would get out of hand. varsity ran 1 series (sometimes) to start the half and JV and 9th grade took over. As a coach, you know a team is not going to come back and win. Say what you want, fair catching punts, or not even putting return men back there is not embarrassing to kids and will keep from scoring extra TDS. Fulton is pretty good and only scored 69 on them.
With the local schedules I've seen, after two varsity teams play Friday night the two JVs and Freshmen teams meet the following Monday. It's sort of frustrating to watch your junior varsity play the second half of the Friday game and then the whole game Monday, when your seniors have been waiting for their chance and only get a half. But that's just one point and I realize you can't leave in your studs too long with a 40-50 point lead.
Point #2 - mshsaa tries to address the lopsidedness with the mercy rule - the turbo clock. Maybe it needs adjusted to cover the first half as well. Heck, a 35 point lead after one quarter really signals an even bigger difference between the two teams' level of play. Just start running the clock continuously at that point.
Finally, don't run up the score even worse, but please still play football. I head for the exits if a team takes 3 knees and punts it away. If you are going to do that, then why do you tell your defense to tackle? Just let the other team run untouched to the end zone. Which of course would be silly and embarrassing so why do something similar on offense?
Point #2 - mshsaa tries to address the lopsidedness with the mercy rule - the turbo clock. Maybe it needs adjusted to cover the first half as well. Heck, a 35 point lead after one quarter really signals an even bigger difference between the two teams' level of play. Just start running the clock continuously at that point.
Finally, don't run up the score even worse, but please still play football. I head for the exits if a team takes 3 knees and punts it away. If you are going to do that, then why do you tell your defense to tackle? Just let the other team run untouched to the end zone. Which of course would be silly and embarrassing so why do something similar on offense?
oh good. I was starting to worry that we wouldn't have the annual "lopsided-score-poor-sportsmanship-fall-on-the-ball-and-punt" thread that we seem to have every year.
On the topic of the turbo clock. If I understand correctly, if a team is up by 35 points it starts, correct? Well if a team starts to make a miracle come back and does the turbo clock stop? Or once it starts, it doesn't stop?
I put this on the squarely on the A D's. MMA has NEVER been able to compete with class three and quality class two programs. It is just the way it is........no ones fault. I have a feeling this was just a schedule filler.
Tolton's coach had to know it would get out of hand early. J.V. and freshman should have been in earlier and don't forget that the coaches could have agreed to end the game early. How about two 4-6 minute quarters the second half? Evidently neither cared so they must have been alright with it.
Tolton's coach had to know it would get out of hand early. J.V. and freshman should have been in earlier and don't forget that the coaches could have agreed to end the game early. How about two 4-6 minute quarters the second half? Evidently neither cared so they must have been alright with it.
There can be no excuse for running up a score like that. We played an MMA team several years ago and could have easily run up a score like that. We used JV and freshmen after a couple of series, ran the ball up the middle only, punted on third down and tried field goals every time we got close enough to try one. Still scored 50 on them but it wasn't 90 plus!!
Greenfield scored 92 this past week. The past couple of years they've given up 60+, 70+ several times. If I were their coach or a fan, I couldn't have told those Wildcats to back down too much. Just being honest.
Im more interested in the team that lost to a team that had 93 scored on them....Grandview (Hillsboro). It seems that the only game either team is competitive in, is the MMA vs. Grandview (Hillsboro) game. Grandview, since 2004, has never won more than 4 games. From 2005 to 2009 had a 36 game losing streak which oddly enough, ended when they beat MMA 48-22. To make matters worse, most of the losses Grandview wasn't even remotely competitive in. How can a team be perpetually this bad? Low numbers? No talent? No stability at coaching?
